Armour in North Africa (1 Viewer)

Great dialog folks, I hope no one is getting bent out of shape about this.

Carlos

Carlos,

I agree its a great dialogue, and I hope no one is getting bent out of shape. Just for the record, I am always happy to stick in my two cents when it comes to the mistakes of the Allied command, but I absolutely never want people to think I don't honor and appreciate the brave Allied, and particularly American Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airmen who fought in the Second World War, and every other conflict, to give me my freedom and lifestyle. I had an Uncle (Jack) who served in North Africa, and I certainly would never question the U.S. Troops who fought there or in Italy.

With regard to your comment about Sicily/Italy being an extension of the North Africa campaigns, for me Crete and Greece were that extension. And that is a campaign I know Andy has no intention of addressing any time soon, but the Commonwealth and Greek forces (regular army and partisans) versus the Germans (with a large quantity of Fallschrimjaegers actually jumping into Crete) I would love to see it done. After all, my favorite all time WWII movie is "The Guns of Naverone" (based on the even better book by Allistar MacClean) with Gregory Peck as Kiwi Long Range Desert Group Major Keith Mallory, Anthony Quinn as Greek Armored Division Colonel Andrea Stavros and David Niven as Corporal "Dusty" Miller (in the book he is a tough old Texas miner who joins the British Army when the Nazi's invade Poland, because he has a Polish grandparent).
 
I could definitely see myself buying Big Red One Figures, no matter what the theater. Although the movie itself was a little weak, the book "The Big Red One" is fantastic. They are a legendary Division.
 
I could definitely see myself buying Big Red One Figures, no matter what the theater. Although the movie itself was a little weak, the book "The Big Red One" is fantastic. They are a legendary Division.


GREAT - So Louis can we sign you up for the Italian Campaign ? :D
 
I had no idea when i started this post that seven pages of posts later we would have as many opinions expressed as have been posted.I have learned a lot by reading all the posts and my final 'two cents' on the subjects discussed are:
1.we still need more British armour for the 8th army in N. Africa.That would include a Sherman in 8th army colors.
2.for all those interested in what the American invovement was in N.Africa,i strongly suggest:
An Army At Dawn,by Rick Atkinson (book)
 
I agree with you guys about the potential popularity of a 1st Infantry Division set and it was wise of Justin to suggest it. I have dozens of WWII movies on dvd and for some reason one of the hardest dvd to find was "The Big Red One".

Here's some info I got from the Ist Divisions website on their involvment in WWII.

During World War II, the 1st Infantry Division was the first to reach England, the first to fight the enemy in North Africa and Sicily, the first on the beaches of Normandy in D-Day and the first to capture a major German City – Aachen.

The D-Day landings on June 6, 1944 provided the supreme test. In five days, the division drove inland and cleared a beachhead for supplies and troops. Driving eastward across France against fanatical resistance, the soldiers of the 1st Infantry Division spent nearly six months in continuous action with the enemy.

After capturing Aachen, the 1st Infantry Division still faced months of bitter fighting at places like the Hürtgen Forest and the Battle of the Bulge. When the War ended, the Big Red One had rolled through Germany and into Czechoslovakia.

Clearly this is a case of the guys that have done the most work being largely overlooked because of the focus on more elite units like the 82nd and 101st Airborne. This is a set that could be included in a number of theatres, including Africa, and I would recommend that Andy C give it serious consideration.
 
Great - OZ

Come over tho the Italy thread and let us unite for the BIG RED ONE !
 
Carlos,

I agree its a great dialogue, and I hope no one is getting bent out of shape. Just for the record, I am always happy to stick in my two cents when it comes to the mistakes of the Allied command, but I absolutely never want people to think I don't honor and appreciate the brave Allied, and particularly American Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airmen who fought in the Second World War, and every other conflict, to give me my freedom and lifestyle. I had an Uncle (Jack) who served in North Africa, and I certainly would never question the U.S. Troops who fought there or in Italy.

With regard to your comment about Sicily/Italy being an extension of the North Africa campaigns, for me Crete and Greece were that extension. And that is a campaign I know Andy has no intention of addressing any time soon, but the Commonwealth and Greek forces (regular army and partisans) versus the Germans (with a large quantity of Fallschrimjaegers actually jumping into Crete) I would love to see it done. After all, my favorite all time WWII movie is "The Guns of Naverone" (based on the even better book by Allistar MacClean) with Gregory Peck as Kiwi Long Range Desert Group Major Keith Mallory, Anthony Quinn as Greek Armored Division Colonel Andrea Stavros and David Niven as Corporal "Dusty" Miller (in the book he is a tough old Texas miner who joins the British Army when the Nazi's invade Poland, because he has a Polish grandparent).

Louis,

I never meant to questioned your patriotism or your sense of honoring our arm forces contribution in any conflict. My comments were really meant to discuss the financial viability of releases displaying the US in N. Africa and allied forces and Germans in Italy and Sicily.

Thanks for the dialog it was fun and enlightening for all parties who participated. Hopefully it results in more fun and toys for the collector and reasonable profits to the manufacturers.

Carlos
 

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