Battle for Arnhem.... (2 Viewers)
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Great photos and display Kevin!
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Great photos and display Kevin!
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Hint taken Joe.............
30 Corps were having it hard fighting through bombed and shelled towns.....
A British 3rd Division man moves past a destroyed panther on the right flank of the 30 Corps advance.........less famous but just as tough a route...........
Hint taken Joe.............
30 Corps were having it hard fighting through bombed and shelled towns.....
A British 3rd Division man moves past a destroyed panther on the right flank of the 30 Corps advance.........less famous but just as tough a route...........
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The main problem for the airforces trying to fly ground support was the flak in Holland put there to protect Germany on the main bombing routes...............
The two problems were the flak and the fighters.................
Oh don't start that again
The main problem for the airforces trying to fly ground support was the flak in Holland put there to protect Germany on the main bombing routes...............
The two problems were the flak and the fighters.................
Oh don't start that again
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see this link
http://www.ww2guards.com/ww2guards/ACTIONS/Entries/1944/9/17_HOLLAND,_OPERATION_MARKET_GARDEN.html
FROM WAR DIARY 3rd Battalion, Irish Guards:
September 16 OVERPELT
A quiet day in the concentration area.
It was decided as result of casualties and lack of reinforcements, to re-organise the Battalion temporarily on a three company basis and to this end, Major M.V. DUDLEY and his Company HQ were for the time being Left out of Battle. During the evening an ‘O’ Group was held at 5 BRIGADE HQ, under whose command the IRISH GUARDS group now came, and orders were issued for a break-out of the bridge head on the following day and an advance NORTH to the ZUYDER ZEE.
Today’s casualties were one Other Rank killed and one Other Rank wounded.
September 17 OVERPELT
14:00hrs
The IRISH GUARDS group was to lead the 5 BRIGADE and effect the initial break-out of the bridge head. We had in support of us, 10 Field Regiments RA, 2 Medium Regiments Royal Artillery and one Heavy Battery Royal Artilery, and the call on a cab-rank of 11 Squadrons of TYPHOONS.
The Battalion Group crossed the Division S.L. behind a rolling barrage, but we had not gone far before the leading sqn was halted by enemy battle groups with 88 mm guns and spandaus in the woods which flanked the roads. Progress was then slow, but the Typhoons who made 200 sorties during the afternoon, were able to overcome the enemy opposition, and after taking approx 100 Prisoners of War we crossed a small bridge just SOUTH of VALKENSWAARD in the evening and entered the town just as night fell.
During the day, Lieutenant RUSSELL was wounded by an enemy sniper, and seven Other Ranks were killed and 18 wounded.
see this link
http://www.ww2guards.com/ww2guards/ACTIONS/Entries/1944/9/17_HOLLAND,_OPERATION_MARKET_GARDEN.html
FROM WAR DIARY 3rd Battalion, Irish Guards:
September 16 OVERPELT
A quiet day in the concentration area.
It was decided as result of casualties and lack of reinforcements, to re-organise the Battalion temporarily on a three company basis and to this end, Major M.V. DUDLEY and his Company HQ were for the time being Left out of Battle. During the evening an ‘O’ Group was held at 5 BRIGADE HQ, under whose command the IRISH GUARDS group now came, and orders were issued for a break-out of the bridge head on the following day and an advance NORTH to the ZUYDER ZEE.
Today’s casualties were one Other Rank killed and one Other Rank wounded.
September 17 OVERPELT
14:00hrs
The IRISH GUARDS group was to lead the 5 BRIGADE and effect the initial break-out of the bridge head. We had in support of us, 10 Field Regiments RA, 2 Medium Regiments Royal Artillery and one Heavy Battery Royal Artilery, and the call on a cab-rank of 11 Squadrons of TYPHOONS.
The Battalion Group crossed the Division S.L. behind a rolling barrage, but we had not gone far before the leading sqn was halted by enemy battle groups with 88 mm guns and spandaus in the woods which flanked the roads. Progress was then slow, but the Typhoons who made 200 sorties during the afternoon, were able to overcome the enemy opposition, and after taking approx 100 Prisoners of War we crossed a small bridge just SOUTH of VALKENSWAARD in the evening and entered the town just as night fell.
During the day, Lieutenant RUSSELL was wounded by an enemy sniper, and seven Other Ranks were killed and 18 wounded.
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'WW2 People's War is an online archive of wartime memories contributed by members of the public and gathered by the BBC. The archive can be found at bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar'
Contributed by Bob ScrivenerPeople in story: Lt. Edmund Scrivener, other unknownLocation of story: Arnhem, HollandBackground to story: ArmyArticle ID: A2661996Contributed on: 24 May 2004 My father, Edmund F. Scrivener (1916—2003) served with 1st Battalion, The Border Regiment, Air Landing Brigade, at Arnhem. He wouldn’t talk much about his nine days in hell, but he did once say to me, 'Why is it a man’s scream sounds so much more blood-curdling than a woman’s?'
He wrote this poem about an incident near the end of the battle.
Death In Oosterbeek
At the dawning he came to me again,
That gentle smile, and blood upon his cheek
Reminding me, for his end had come
In the dappled woods of Oosterbeek.
A passing shower of German mortar bombs
Had driven me beneath a fallen tree,
And when, at last I rose, prepared to go,
I saw him turn his head and look at me.
The wonder and compassion in his eyes,
The friendship of the smile upon his face,
Mocked the blood that trickled from his lips,
And made me curse aloud the human race.
He knew they could not hurt him any more,
No longer would he feel the pains and fears,
Forgiveness shone from that young soldier's face,
The mem’ry brings a flood of angry tears.
I wish these tears would wash away the thought
That e’en in death we humiliate them so;
I saw him later at the First Aid Post,
A label tied to his bare and lifeless toe.
I often wonder who that young lad was,
Who gave his life to cross the bloody Rhine;
And if no loved ones have him in their thoughts,
Come haunt me lad, and live again in mine.
'WW2 People's War is an online archive of wartime memories contributed by members of the public and gathered by the BBC. The archive can be found at bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar'
Contributed by Bob ScrivenerPeople in story: Lt. Edmund Scrivener, other unknownLocation of story: Arnhem, HollandBackground to story: ArmyArticle ID: A2661996Contributed on: 24 May 2004 My father, Edmund F. Scrivener (1916—2003) served with 1st Battalion, The Border Regiment, Air Landing Brigade, at Arnhem. He wouldn’t talk much about his nine days in hell, but he did once say to me, 'Why is it a man’s scream sounds so much more blood-curdling than a woman’s?'
He wrote this poem about an incident near the end of the battle.
Death In Oosterbeek
At the dawning he came to me again,
That gentle smile, and blood upon his cheek
Reminding me, for his end had come
In the dappled woods of Oosterbeek.
A passing shower of German mortar bombs
Had driven me beneath a fallen tree,
And when, at last I rose, prepared to go,
I saw him turn his head and look at me.
The wonder and compassion in his eyes,
The friendship of the smile upon his face,
Mocked the blood that trickled from his lips,
And made me curse aloud the human race.
He knew they could not hurt him any more,
No longer would he feel the pains and fears,
Forgiveness shone from that young soldier's face,
The mem’ry brings a flood of angry tears.
I wish these tears would wash away the thought
That e’en in death we humiliate them so;
I saw him later at the First Aid Post,
A label tied to his bare and lifeless toe.
I often wonder who that young lad was,
Who gave his life to cross the bloody Rhine;
And if no loved ones have him in their thoughts,
Come haunt me lad, and live again in mine.
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A Bren gun covers the advance................
The name Bren came from Brno in Czechoslovakia where it was designed and Enfield, where the Royal Ordinance Factory that made it under license was based.
It was adopted by Britain in the 1930s and used in various roles until as recently as 1991. It was best known as the primary infantry light machine gun in WW2, the British and Commonwealth infantry squad being based upon it. The Bren in WW2 featured a distinctive curved box magazine, conical flash hider and quick change barrel.
There was one bren gun in every infantry section of ten men and they all carried some ammo for it. It was the same ammo as for the Lee Enfield. It could fire rapidly around 500rpm or single shot with great accuracy, but was normally sparing with ammo, unlike the high rate of fire German LMG's.
Although fitted with a bipod normally, it could also be mounted on a tripod or vehicle-mounted - see for example the K&C desert Dingo or 3rd Division Bren carrier models.
It was also used in Korea and saw service throughout the latter half of the 20th century, including the 1982 Falklands war and the 1991 Gulf War.
In the 1950s the Bren was rebarrelled to accept the standard NATO 7.62mm ammo. According to Wikepedia, as of November 2007, the Bren is still manufactured in India as the "Gun, Machine 7.62mm 1B".
It was arguably the best LMG of WW2 - don tin hat and wait for arrival of ordinance......................
A Bren gun covers the advance................
The name Bren came from Brno in Czechoslovakia where it was designed and Enfield, where the Royal Ordinance Factory that made it under license was based.
It was adopted by Britain in the 1930s and used in various roles until as recently as 1991. It was best known as the primary infantry light machine gun in WW2, the British and Commonwealth infantry squad being based upon it. The Bren in WW2 featured a distinctive curved box magazine, conical flash hider and quick change barrel.
There was one bren gun in every infantry section of ten men and they all carried some ammo for it. It was the same ammo as for the Lee Enfield. It could fire rapidly around 500rpm or single shot with great accuracy, but was normally sparing with ammo, unlike the high rate of fire German LMG's.
Although fitted with a bipod normally, it could also be mounted on a tripod or vehicle-mounted - see for example the K&C desert Dingo or 3rd Division Bren carrier models.
It was also used in Korea and saw service throughout the latter half of the 20th century, including the 1982 Falklands war and the 1991 Gulf War.
In the 1950s the Bren was rebarrelled to accept the standard NATO 7.62mm ammo. According to Wikepedia, as of November 2007, the Bren is still manufactured in India as the "Gun, Machine 7.62mm 1B".
It was arguably the best LMG of WW2
- don tin hat and wait for arrival of ordinance......................Attachments
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This one is nice, Panda very realistic. Is this the old 88mm from K&C?
This one is nice, Panda very realistic. Is this the old 88mm from K&C?
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No this is the new Figarti Tropical with some artistic license. As with many of these photos, I have the photo but not the piece!
It is very photogenic Rod........here guarding a V2 site
No this is the new Figarti Tropical with some artistic license. As with many of these photos, I have the photo but not the piece!
It is very photogenic Rod........here guarding a V2 site
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Off thread I know, but here it is in the desert. Wish I had one of these, but you can't get everything.
BTW, your trebuchets and other crusader work is also magnificent - see your Egyptian thread yesterday, you have some talent Rod.
For me it was and it is the most beautiful piece of Artillery of all times. Opus... of course along with my Crusaders Trebuchets LOL..
Off thread I know, but here it is in the desert. Wish I had one of these, but you can't get everything.
BTW, your trebuchets and other crusader work is also magnificent - see your Egyptian thread yesterday, you have some talent Rod.
