Battle on the Monongahela (1 Viewer)

[29 Let's Go]

 

[Desertkiwi]

Wow, that's so cool, just love the foliage and deep forest feeling about your dio!:salute::

 

[villagehorse]

Brilliant, using one of John's colourful series in the best setting. Robin.

 

[nysoldiers]

Very well done.....

 

[29 Let's Go]

Re: Battle on the Monongahela A Few More Pics

 

[mikemiller1955]

Steve...
these last pictures are really indicative of how Braddock was out witted...
the defeat was a rout...
Braddock was so arrogant that he wouldn't deviate from the European/Nap war strategy of a standing line firing on order...
as his troops tried to assemble under order firing and then relaoding...
they were completely massacred by the French/Indian guerilla style warfare who popped in and out of sight...
taking one shot at a time...
never exposing themselves to the British volleys......
good job...

 

[marco55]

Really great looking dio.{bravo}}{bravo}}
Mark

 

[farmertony]

Your wonderful scene really captures the confusion of the British soldiers in the totally unfamiliar environment of the forest.Well done that man.

 

[Combat]

Interesting to compare the British panic and massacre at Monogahela under Braddock with a similar situation at Bushy Run where they held their ground and eventually routed the Indians. Leadership and experience. I was at Jumonville Glen a few months ago. That is an eerie place. The parking area was closed (as it always seems to be) and I had to climb around the barrier to get in. So I had the place entirely to myself. The rock formations are creepy. I've seen too many horror films to be doing that. You can also look down the remnants of Braddock's road snaking through the woods and contemplate the effort it took just to reach that point.

 

[Fraxinus]

Very much enjoying this thread. The work is simply outstanding.

https://archive.org/details/militaryaffairsi00cumb/page/478

Above link is a fun read especially if you slowly view artillery stores and the shipping list, some 360 items (9 Pages of Items). The tie between ammunition types and artillery can be seen here, including the use of sabots (wooden bottoms), cannister rounds in brass cannons but not grapeshot, yet grapeshot for brass howitzers, flannel for developing fixed ammunition, ........ here, a slow read is best.

And see this link, especially: A Different Interpretation of the Battlefield (near the bottom of the page).

http://www.kronoskaf.com/syw/index.php?title=1755-07-09_-_Ambush_on_the_Monongahela

 

[mikemiller1955]

I remember reading somewhere...that the progress cutting a road in that dense forest was incredibly slow...they did it just wide enough to get a wagon through...losing/damaging several wagons in the process...the progress was about 1-2 miles per day in the summer heat...a snail's pace...

Bouquet at Bushy Run was not as arrogant as Braddock...they built a redoubt for some cover instead of using the British traditional open line firing...I remember Bouquet somehow lured the Indians towards the redoubt and devastated them with volley fire...then charged with bayonets...perhaps he had studied Braddock's defeat...

 

[mikemiller1955]

Very much enjoying this thread. The work is simply outstanding.

https://archive.org/details/militaryaffairsi00cumb/page/478

Above link is a fun read especially if you slowly view artillery stores and the shipping list, some 360 items (9 Pages of Items). The tie between ammunition types and artillery can be seen here, including the use of sabots (wooden bottoms), cannister rounds in brass cannons but not grapeshot, yet grapeshot for brass howitzers, flannel for developing fixed ammunition, ........ here, a slow read is best.

And see this link, especially: A Different Interpretation of the Battlefield (near the bottom of the page).

http://www.kronoskaf.com/syw/index.php?title=1755-07-09_-_Ambush_on_the_Monongahela

Ken Dunne...where are you...^&grin...?
I tried to call you several times in the last 1-2 years...
always got your recorder...I'm glad you're okay!

 

[Combat]

I remember reading somewhere...that the progress cutting a road in that dense forest was incredibly slow...they did it just wide enough to get a wagon through...losing/damaging several wagons in the process...the progress was about 1-2 miles per day in the summer heat...a snail's pace...

Bouquet at Bushy Run was not as arrogant as Braddock...they built a redoubt for some cover instead of using the British traditional open line firing...I remember Bouquet somehow lured the Indians towards the redoubt and devastated them with volley fire...then charged with bayonets...perhaps he had studied Braddock's defeat...

Yes, old Bouquet was cool as a cucumber. Unlike Braddock who was out of his depth. Of course Braddock also had the disadvantage of being shot. LOL. I would really like to see John do Bouquet and Pontiac figures for his Bushy Run line. There is apparently some doubt as to the presence of the latter but when in doubt forge ahead. If he wasn't there he should have been!

 

[29 Let's Go]

Thanks for all the kind comments. I really like the discussion around the battle and decisions made. I believe tactics must match the landscape. Braddock must have envisioned marching to a successful siege and not battling in the wilderness.

Steve

 

[sapper]

Your diorama has turned out superbly and you have convinced me to modify my own diorama when I can get around to it. Regards Greg.