Britain's Zulu War (2 Viewers)

And the gatling gun?

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Only gloss! :mad:

Need the same , but matte !!!
 
Mister Dave said:
The museum collection Black Watch figure is attired more for the earlier Egypt/Sudan campaigns in the early to mid 1880's. Also the regiment did not participate in the reconquest of Sudan during the late 1890's and was not present at Khartoum/Omdurman.
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I cannot find any good references about the tunics worn during the 1885 campaign to relieve Gordon. My understanding is that it was at the Battle of Tamai that the British army wore red tunics for teh last time in action. I also think that some of the units had a faded blue type tunic. During teh Omdurman campaign they all wore Kakhi as during the Boer War a year later.
Regards
Damian
 
Now that's a faux pas! No one had any Gats except the right Royal Artillery in the Zulu War proper. I have some sets with the 24th manning a Gun as well as Britains 91st manning theirs. Please guys am I right? or did the noble 24th /91st comandeer some from Supply? Mike
 
What Gatling Gun? Are there any accouts of these being used in the Zulu War? Or for that matter the ACW????
 
Yup, there were gatling guns used during the Zulu War, but they were manned by the Royal Artillery and Naval Brigade. The gatling gun was used at the the fight at the Ineyzane manned by the Naval Brigade and the gatlings were manned by the 10/7 Battery,Royal Artillery at Ulundi. I am looking forward to seeing a new set from Britains...in Matte.
 
The Breaker said:
Yup, there were gatling guns used during the Zulu War, but they were manned by the Royal Artillery and Naval Brigade. The gatling gun was used at the the fight at the Ineyzane manned by the Naval Brigade and the gatlings were manned by the 10/7 Battery,Royal Artillery at Ulundi. I am looking forward to seeing a new set from Britains...in Matte.
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You are spot on Breaker! Forgot about those Navy Boys... Ah, to be on the bow again with the breeze blowing up our skirts!:p;):eek: Mike
 
damian said:
I cannot find any good references about the tunics worn during the 1885 campaign to relieve Gordon. My understanding is that it was at the Battle of Tamai that the British army wore red tunics for teh last time in action. I also think that some of the units had a faded blue type tunic. During teh Omdurman campaign they all wore Kakhi as during the Boer War a year later.
Regards
Damian
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That all sounds pretty accurate to me Damian. In fact I think Trophy has done a lot of good figures in that grayish blue tunic you mentioned.

MD
 
The British Camel Corps (made up of various British Infantry and Cavalry units) was assembled to make a trek across the desert to relieve Gordon at Khartoum. They wore the special geyish/ blue frock. The Britains gloss camel Corps figure coming out later this year represents this unit. The River column was marching towards Khartoum the same time the Camel Corps was moving across the desert towards Khartoum. The Black Watch was with the River column (Dec.1884-Feb.1885) when it moved towards Khartoum and participated in the Battle of Kirbekan under General Earle. While the Museum Collection looks to be for the Battle of Tel-El-Kebir Egypt 1882 I am unsure if the Black Watch was wearing the scarlet tunic or greyish khaki tunic. I am referencing the Osprey Khartoum 1885- by Donald Featherstone and Osprey The British Army on campaign 1882-1902. I hope this helps.
 
Let me clarify my previous statement, the Museum Collection Black Watch Egypt 1882 figure is accurate, wearing the scarlet tunic. I am unsure if the Black Watch Regiment was wearing the scarlet tunic when it marched towards Khartoum in 1884-1885.
 
I am also unsure whether they wore a red tunic during those Battles. I have a square of red coated and blue coated Black watch facing an oncomming Dervish horde. I have called it the Battle of Tamai but it may be wrong. There were quite a few battles Sukain etc that took place.
Regards
Damian
 
I have become a new and great fan of the current Britains company..Because of the gloss mimmicking the old Britains scale, I have been starting my FIW collection as a stand alone...But give me a proper Zulu War gloss gatling gun in small proportions, ( I collect Dorsets,Wessex, Bulldog and Clash of Arms for my Zulu War ) and I am so there. Put forth different sets of crews and I would buy a battery of them...Same with the FIW artillery sets...We need other poses to be able to setup a multi gun battery...( HINT,HINT)...Michael
 
Damian,

It looks like the Black Watch wore the grey serge at the Battle of Kirbekan and later during the battles around Suakin. The british units including the highlander units were ordered to wear the red uniforms " to look more formidable to the dervish hordes" at the Battle of Ginnis-1885. A terrific book about the battles around Suakin is "Fuzzy Wuzzy" by Brian Robson.
 
Ok another revision. The highland untis wore the grey serge at Kirbekan and around the battles of El Teb and Tamai (not Suakin.) Too many relatively unknown battles to keep track of.
 
Actually Kilted Vamp for the Black Watch it's simple. The Black Watch Egypt 1882 figure can be used for Egypt 1882. After that the unit wore the grey serge in the battles against the dervishes 1884-1885.

The Black Watch wasn't at the Battle of Ginnis 1885, the Cameron Highlanders were there and wore the scarlet jackets.

Hope that's clear as mud.
 
I think my guys have Black Watch Tartans. Too bad I will just say they are Cameron Highlanders.
Regards
Damian
 
Another gem by Ken Osen that can be played with out of his hospital bed.....The Lt.

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