Collectors Showcase Panzer III Dimensions? (1 Viewer)

[Phantom Warrior]

Excellent photo comparison between the three manufacturers. Brian certainly did his research well on this model. Thank you for the size information. The width of a full size PZ III is 114 inches (2.895 Meters). The CS PZ III scale is 1/27.5. Almost the same scale as the Stug III. Perfect scale for K&C, CS and TG figures and some Figarti figures. Will not work with FL figures; but not a problem as the excellent FL PZ III is available in 1/30 scale. I find it very interesting that the K&C model falls in between the FL and CS models in size! Looks like K&C may be increasing scale size as CS has done to better match the larger figure size being produced. Realisticly their are now three Toy Soldier scales 1/32; the original British scale. 1/30 and 1/27 Scales where Toy Soldiers have evolved. 1/27 is close to the old European Toy Soldier scale of 70MM established by Lineol and Hausser. The current 1/27 (68MM) figures work well with the old Tin Toy vehicles and artillery and are far superior to the old composition figures of 1930-39. Thank you very much for the size data!
Regards

I noticed the scale creep on one K&C model but wondered if I was mistaken. The one I noticed it on and measured was the K&C Winter T-34. What made me wonder was that the figure in the turret looked the correct size for the tank and when I measured the tank it came out exactly on 1:28 scale. I'm glad someone else has noticed this and it's not just my imagination..

I just hope the manufacturers realize it's not a size race and don't keep increasing the size of the AFVs.

Terry

 

[katana]

The Toy Soldier Manufacturers currently making 1/30 scale (60MM) Figarti and K&C started
making 1/32 scale (54MM). I think K&C was the first to move up to 1/30 scale followed by Figarti. Honor Bound, CS, Thomas Gunn and John Jenkins started with 1/30 scale. The figures grew from 60MM to the current 68MM size over a period of about 10 years. About 2008 the vehicle size started to grow as well. I think the first 1/28 scale vehicle was the CS Stug III and CS has stayed at 1/28 scale which works well with the 68MM figures. Only First Legion has 1/30 scale vehicles and 60MM figures. Figarti Figures have stayed at 1/30 scale but their figures are 68MM. Honor Bound vehicles are 1/30 scale but the figures are
65MM. A collector looking for scale accuracy has to choose between several manufacturers; vehicles from one and figures from another. Figarti vehicles and First Legion figures are a good combination. The Thomas Gunn vehicles seem to be about 1/30 scale, so should also go well with First Legion figures. Someone should write a book on the evolution of the modern Toy Soldier/Military Miniature!

 

[Mitch]

I am more concerned with the AFV's being what they state they are i.e. 1/30th. I particularly dislike manufacturers playing around with scale leave it be and do it at 1/30th if that is what is being said it is. I am less concerned about the figures I very rarely stand figures with AFV's unless they are tank riders.

I don't mind because they are unrealistic anyway so, saying they should be this or that is like asking how long is a piece of string?? They have bases on them which, adds height and, they are all the same height which, is even more unrealistic so, 1/28th 1/27th 1/30th does not and never has been my first concern. Soldiers were tall small large thin fat. It becomes an issue if you mix and match but, I don't on the whole

Sees to bother others more and I understand why but, I am more interested in AFV's
Mitch


making 1/32 scale (54MM). I think K&C was the first to move up to 1/30 scale followed by Figarti. Honor Bound, CS, Thomas Gunn and John Jenkins started with 1/30 scale. The figures grew from 60MM to the current 68MM size over a period of about 10 years. About 2008 the vehicle size started to grow as well. I think the first 1/28 scale vehicle was the CS Stug III and CS has stayed at 1/28 scale which works well with the 68MM figures. Only First Legion has 1/30 scale vehicles and 60MM figures. Figarti Figures have stayed at 1/30 scale but their figures are 68MM. Honor Bound vehicles are 1/30 scale but the figures are
65MM. A collector looking for scale accuracy has to choose between several manufacturers; vehicles from one and figures from another. Figarti vehicles and First Legion figures are a good combination. The Thomas Gunn vehicles seem to be about 1/30 scale, so should also go well with First Legion figures. Someone should write a book on the evolution of the modern Toy Soldier/Military Miniature![/QUOTE]

 

[katana]

Mitch; I agree with you. I too collect primarily AFV's. I do like to indicate the size of these vehicles by placing a suitable figure next to them; it makes a more interesting display. I really like the CS reloading sets for this purpose. The Toy Soldier Mfgs are all over the place scale wise and I do not think it will improve any time soon. My most accurate pre built AFV models are Minichamps and I combine them with the excellent DML CanDo 1/35 figures. The Dragon pre built plastic models are also very nice. I have a collection of 1/25 scale Tamiya models I built over the years and the 68MM figures from K&C and CS go with them surprisingly well. My biggest problem with Armor models of any scale is display space. My collection ranges from 1/72 to 1/16 and everything in between. I still have many Solido tanks from the days when they were the best diecast available; until Corgi came along. Regards