DAK002-DAK009 Panzer III's and Infantry Pre-Order (1 Viewer)

[fmethorst]

Re: DAK002-DAK009 Panzer III's and Infantry Pre-Order!!

I don't think they had very many. In August 1942 the 15th Panzer Div. had only 4 Marder III. I don't have more detailed info on Marders in DAK - perhaps Frank does? But the Marder gives Rommel even more advantage as it was an effective tank destroyer - for most of North Afrika the Brits didn't have anything comparable.

Terry

Authorized strength as of June 1942:

15.Panzer-Division (Panzerjäger-Abteilung 33)
1st Company - 6 x 76.2mm (Marder)
2nd Compnay - 9 x 50mm (Pak 38 towed)

21.Panzer-Division (Panzerjäger-Abteilung 39)
1st Company - 6 x 76.2mm (Marder)
2nd Compnay - 9 x 50mm (Pak 38 towed)

Corps Troops (Panzerjäger-Abteilung 605)
1st Company - 9 x 47mm (Panzerjäger I)
2nd Company - 9 x 47mm (Panzerjäger I)
3rd Company - 9 x 47mm (Panzerjäger I)
4th Company - 9 x 76.2mm (Marder), 2 x 75mm (Marder)

90.Light-Division (190.Panzerjäger-Abteilung)
???

Picture of a Pak 38

 

[Blowtorch]

Re: DAK002-DAK009 Panzer III's and Infantry Pre-Order!!

At the risk of greatly oversimplifying the relative strength of German and British tanks, the British 2 pdr on the Matilda and Crusader tanks were effective against the German AK tanks up to about 500m. The German tank guns could stretch up to 1000m. Advantage Rommel.

The British 2 pdr could not fire an HE shell to take out the anti-tank screen in front of the German tanks and get within effective range to take out the Panzers. The German tanks could. Advantage Rommel

Yes, I'm seeing this as I go deeper into "Rommel's War in Africa". Brits are totally outgunned in Rommel's first offensive; they did the Germans quite a favor by refusing to put their big AA guns in the AT role.

Australians did an incredible job at Tobruk-fought like the Marines in the Pacific.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

One model no one has made is the Panzerjäger I which was a 47mm anti-tank gun on a Panzer I chassis. They were not as effective as the Marder, but they were as numerous in North Afrika. The Marder was their replacement, but with the shortge of equipment, Rommel kept using them.

 

[Mitch]

Nice AFV. though more than likely still going to produce Panzer III/IV's rather thyan hit all the wealth of unmade AFV's
Mitch

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Nice AFV. though more than likely still going to produce Panzer III/IV's rather thyan hit all the wealth of unmade AFV's
Mitch

Hopefully someone will make it - it would be a nice small piece, but with the open fighting compartment would need 2 crew (the driver could be inside the chassis)

And keep in mind, some of these were used on the early Eastern front battles and some converted to 150mm sIG 33 L/11.4 heavy infantry gun were at Stalingrad. They were successful in the very important bringing down the factory smokestacks which Russian snipers and observers were in.

Terry

 

[Vezzolf]

Personally I would like to see a DAK Panzer IV (short barrel) or even a DAK Tiger....I think it would be wise for First Legion to produce the iconic WWII AFV's....they are better selling subjects and certainly desired by more collectors.....Certainly would be the best 1:30 scale models ever produced.:salute::

 

[MapleLeaf]

Panzerjager 1 would be awsome
would have to buy 2

 

[Blowtorch]

And keep in mind, some of these were used on the early Eastern front battles and some converted to 150mm sIG 33 L/11.4 heavy infantry gun were at Stalingrad. They were successful in the very important bringing down the factory smokestacks which Russian snipers and observers were in.

Terry

You mean this or something else?

 

[debrito]

Very ugly

 

[Mitch]

This would be a great AFV released
Mitch

You mean this or something else?
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[Blowtorch]

This would be a great AFV released
Mitch

I don't think this particular one was at the 'grad. Could be wrong though. The one on the PzIII definitely was. The towed gun itself has always been a favorite of mine. Looks like a Smith & Wesson revolver. Perhaps a configuration like the second pic could have been used in the city. Definitely fits "desperate times calls for desperate measures" and could have been done in a field shop. But the next question would be if there were any PzI at Stalingrad. Maybe some command vehicles?

If you have any video of these things firing, slow down the play speed & you should be able to clearly see the shell lob out of the barrel & go to target. It's quite amazing.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

One model no one has made is the Panzerjäger I which was a 47mm anti-tank gun on a Panzer I chassis. They were not as effective as the Marder, but they were as numerous in North Afrika. The Marder was their replacement, but with the shortge of equipment, Rommel kept using them.

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The sIG 33 was based on the Panzer I chassis. They were used in Barbarossa and in the following summer offensive which took the Germans to Stalingrad. I don't know if any sIG 33 got that far - probably not.

The sIG 33b in the next photo was built on a Stug III chassis. I am going from memory, but I thing 12 were built and 6 were delivered to Stalingrad and were used in the Factory District. The other 6 were too late to get through the Russians who had encircledStalingrad

Terry