Dambusters name change (2 Viewers)

Yes as Stephen Fry said you just can't use that word today, good move.

Rob
 
lancer said:
Seems unnecessary to me, PC or not. Shouldn't change history for such reasons. Once again, today's morals applied to the past.-- Al
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Al, don't you think it would cause outrage though and probably over shadow the film?

Rob
 
I disagree, that's the name of the dog. It reminds me of when they tried to "clean up" Mark Twain by removing the "n" word. Moreover, my son listens to rap, unfortunately (from metal to rap -- well, that's another story) and they are constantly using the "n" word. How can one be tolerable and not the other?
 
jazzeum said:
I disagree, that's the name of the dog. It reminds me of when they tried to "clean up" Mark Twain by removing the "n" word. Moreover, my son listens to rap, unfortunately (from metal to rap -- well, that's another story) and they are constantly using the "n" word. How can one be tolerable and not the other?
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Double standards that's how.
 
How stupid is it going to be hearing digger. Plenty gave their lives to destroy the dams and wreck the german industry and, thats what counts not, some namby pamby, ivory tower, not living in the real world nutcases, saying this will cause offence to ethnic minorities.

They should look at how many times the N word is used by black people in Rap and on the streets. Listen to NWA

What a joke!!!!!
Mitch
 
There was a thread about this on Hyperscale today, too. Someone mentioned what would happen with Huckleberry Finn today.

"Hand me that oar, N-Word Jim" - Peter Griffin, Family Guy

Prost!
Brad
 
Rob said:
Al, don't you think it would cause outrage though and probably over shadow the film?

Rob
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I don't see a reason for outrage when the word is used in the context of a WW2 story of a British bombing squadron/mission where the "word" is a dog's name and a mission call sign. It is what it is and should be allowed to stand. This movie certainly isn't aimed as a social statement of any sort. -- Al
 
lancer said:
I don't see a reason for outrage when the word is used in the context of a WW2 story of a British bombing squadron/mission where the "word" is a dog's name and a mission call sign. It is what it is and should be allowed to stand. This movie certainly isn't aimed as a social statement of any sort. -- Al
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I guess Stephen Fry didn't want to risk any flack being as he is fast assuming the title of ' National treasure' these days :wink2:

Rob
 
Whilst they are at it - do you think that they could air-brush the pipes out of the mouths of the RAF team petting the dog in the original picture that began this thread. After all, is it acceptable these days that people are portrayed smoking (presumably the "T" word), whilst doing it?

Outrageous!

Has the World gone completely mad? - Or is it just me?

A non-smoker (of any herb!)
 
jazzeum said:
I disagree, that's the name of the dog. It reminds me of when they tried to "clean up" Mark Twain by removing the "n" word. Moreover, my son listens to rap, unfortunately (from metal to rap -- well, that's another story) and they are constantly using the "n" word. How can one be tolerable and not the other?
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"Cleaning up" Mark Twain's Huckleberry Finn is wrong as the story is about the time and race relations. The bloody name of the dog isn't really essencial to the story of the Dambusters is it?

Agatha Cristie's 10 Little Niggers title has been changed w/o damaging the fictional story.
 
Mitch said:
How stupid is it going to be hearing digger. Plenty gave their lives to destroy the dams and wreck the german industry and, thats what counts not, some namby pamby, ivory tower, not living in the real world nutcases, saying this will cause offence to ethnic minorities.

They should look at how many times the N word is used by black people in Rap and on the streets. Listen to NWA

What a joke!!!!!
Mitch
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It sounds stupid when they say it to.
But then again as Tim Minchen sings, "only a Ginger can call another Ginger "Ginger."

Cripes! If the story is about the men why make a point with the dog's name. I'll bet the Dambusters pooped and peed and got some "tail", can we see that too? Ha!
 
theBaron said:
There was a thread about this on Hyperscale today, too. Someone mentioned what would happen with Huckleberry Finn today.

"Hand me that oar, N-Word Jim" - Peter Griffin, Family Guy

Prost!
Brad
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Ha!!! Changing Nigger Jim to "Slave" Jim just doesn't make it for the story. "Slave" is just a job description.

I can imagine the movie...."want a belly rub Nigger?" "Where's your ball? Get the ball Nigger" on the tarmack!
 
It's one film not a tv series, the dogs name is such a small point it wouldn't bother me at all if it was changed. Maybe the producers don't like idea of using the word in what is predominately a White film. Also we all agree it's an objectionable word, just because some use it does not mean we all have to, Digger, Flopsy,Mopsy who cares, just show me flooding on the Ruhr.

Rob
 
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Rob said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire- 13727908
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This story came out last year & thought they put a stop on the film for lack of money , there do well to make a better film than the first one
 
The simplest answer is not to mention the dog's name at all. The pilots could simply address him as one usually does ie "Here boy" or "Whose a clever dog then?" The code word could be sent in Morse code which is acceptable to the purists and undecipherable to the majority (unless, like me, you are an ex-sparks), it doesn't have to be mentioned just "They have done it!" Everybody happy. Trooper
 
trooper said:
The simplest answer is not to mention the dog's name at all. The pilots could simply address him as one usually does ie "Here boy" or "Whose a clever dog then?" The code word could be sent in Morse code which is acceptable to the purists and undecipherable to the majority (unless, like me, you are an ex-sparks), it doesn't have to be mentioned just "They have done it!" Everybody happy. Trooper
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Perfect answer, that would be the best way.

Rob
 
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