Deadwood...The Movie...on HBO...May 31... (2 Viewers)

mikemiller1955 said:
the historical accuracy of the curse words...
who knows...
you should do a thesis on that...^&grin

between Al and Mr. Wu...it's rampant...

Wu only knows two words throughout the series...
one of them is a curse word that he uses profusely...

the guy cast to play E. B. Farnum...
was a stroke of genius...
gotta be the sleaziest character in the history of cinema...

what I find interesting...
is the choice of words they use in their conversations...
some thought was used in their vernacular by the script writer...
they use a lot of words that are antiquated by today's standards...
more than once I would have to rewind to understand exactly what they were saying...

as far as pearly whites...
for every good dental smile you see...
you will see 10 rotten smiles...
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Isn't the actor who plays Farnum the Larry, Darryl and Darryl guy from the Newhart show? He was hilarious in that role. I'm showing my age since I recognized many of the actors but that was the only one I could remember without looking it up.
 
Doug...
I wasn't a big fan of the Newhart show...
I remember him from the original Bladerunner...
that whiny voice is not acting...
that's just how he sounds...
 
I finished up season one. Very entertaining. Al Swearengen is my favorite character. It's interesting how a show like this can give new life to some of these historical characters. Particularly the lesser known ones who are mostly otherwise forgotten. There is likely a robust tourist industry in Deadwood that owes a lot to this show. I knew next to nothing about most of them. Having googled a few it is also interesting to note where changes are made from the historical record. One small example is Sol Star. In the show, he says that he is from Vienna, Austria. In reality, he was born in Germany. You have to wonder why they make those kinds of changes. It would seemingly be intentional instead of a mistake. I can understand the need to make Seth Bullock and Wild Bill friends for the fictional narrative when they likely never met in reality, but not the need to make minor changes like that. Not a criticism as I'm far from an historical purist when it comes to TV shows, but more of a curiosity about Hollywood. Onward to season two.
 
not to downplay "the movie" for you...
but it was unfulfilling to me...
but then so was GOT...
but that's just me...
I won't comment on it so as not to reveal a spoiler...

hope you enjoy seasons 2-3...
again...
this is probably the best western I have ever seen...
 
I quit Deadwood when it was on as I did not like the flowerly language.I recorded this but my cousin said the the language was the same so I deleted it.When Deadwood first came on I thought it was great but then they turned to that language and I just didn't like it.
Mark
 
mikemiller1955 said:
not to downplay "the movie" for you...
but it was unfulfilling to me...
but then so was GOT...
but that's just me...
I won't comment on it so as not to reveal a spoiler...

hope you enjoy seasons 2-3...
again...
this is probably the best western I have ever seen...
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Finished the last episode of Series 3 this afternoon and then watched " the movie". I have to agree with Mike, the movie tied up several story lines but left others still open

Cheers

Martyn:)
 
Martyn...I agree with exactly what you're saying...one character really needed to be addressed more conclusively......
 
I finished up season 2 which I thought wasn't quite as good as the first season. Al was absent from a couple of episodes and the Yankton story angle dragged a bit. It was odd that they brought back the same actor who played Jack McCall for a different role in season two and his character was a bit of a bore. Started season three and the fight between Dan and Capt. Hunter was one for the ages. A real eye opener!
 
the conversation foreshadowing the fight...
kind of eluded to a defeat with a last minute rally by Dan...

when Johnny said...

"Drop flat if it's going wrong, and I'll blow his head off."

and Dan replied...

"You do and it'll be the last thing you do on this earth. Going wrong is not the end of things, Johnny. No! I have come back from plenty of stuff that looked like it was going wrong."

Capt. Turner was a huge man...Dan had called him a sea creature earlier in that episode...still...that was one wicked ugly fight...

I don't think many people caught on the Jack McCall's dual role reprisal...

how did you sniff that out?

the only way I knew was reading the recaps on the Internet...
 
mikemiller1955 said:
the conversation foreshadowing the fight...
kind of eluded to a defeat with a last minute rally by Dan...

when Johnny said...

"Drop flat if it's going wrong, and I'll blow his head off."

and Dan replied...

"You do and it'll be the last thing you do on this earth. Going wrong is not the end of things, Johnny. No! I have come back from plenty of stuff that looked like it was going wrong."

Capt. Turner was a huge man...Dan had called him a sea creature earlier in that episode...still...that was one wicked ugly fight...

I don't think many people caught on the Jack McCall's dual role reprisal...

how did you sniff that out?

the only way I knew was reading the recaps on the Internet...
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He's the same actor now on Fear the Walking Dead. Oddly enough he plays a kind of cowboy gunslinger in that show. I thought he was fantastic as McCall but not so great as Wolcott. The whole triple murder was a bit over the top. They devoted a lot of time to his character that didn't pay off.
 
I loved him as Wolcott...
he played that character well...
as he did McCall...
what an unworthy human being he was...
a prostitute's nightmare...
he got a proper send off by the Capt...

do you feel George Hearst's character needed some definitive closure?

really wanted to see Trixie get a second chance at him......
or Al get some redemption for the finger Hearst took...
or somebody...
Bullock...
Joannie Stubbs...
Utter...
heck...even Aunt Lou would have suited me...
leaving him alive...locked up in a jail...was a huge mistake in the script ending for me...
 
The issue with Hearst is he was real. They could have taken license with him, but he lived through all of that and they probably felt it best to be faithful to history. But agree, Trixie putting a a railroad spike through his noggin would have been awesome
 
almost all the characters were based on real people...

it never dawned on me to do a little research and see what actually happened...

ty...I will do that...
 
It’s amazing how many western figures are real! These people were truly a different breed. No way i survive what they did
 
zblang said:
The issue with Hearst is he was real. They could have taken license with him, but he lived through all of that and they probably felt it best to be faithful to history. But agree, Trixie putting a a railroad spike through his noggin would have been awesome
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They took some pretty big liberties with many of the characters including Hearst. He was supposedly a decent fellow in real life but that wouldn't have made for as interesting a narrative. So I can understand why they made him the villain on the show. Some other liberties are more perplexing. Like why on the show Sol Star says he is from Austria when he was actually from Germany. Those types of historical changes are really odd as they don't appear to serve any purpose.
 
I finished up season three and then watched the movie. It was a bit jarring to see so many of the characters that had aged. Utter and Bullock looked a hair's breath from the grave. Oddly the more grizzled characters didn't seem as much changed. The movie didn't tie up a lot of story arcs but it was a decent watch. I remember reading a book called "The Crimson Petal and the White" by Michel Faber many years ago. It's several hundred pages long and then abruptly ends. Many people who read it were furious but he explained that in life people come and go and you usually never know what happened to them. Kind of sad to see Old Al go out so meekly. I've never seen a picture of the real Al. He apparently died under mysterious circumstances in Denver. I wonder if the land that Mrs. Ellsworth bought eventually ended up being the Mount Moriah cemetery where the bodies of Wild Bill, Jane, Bullock eventually ended up? They showed Charlie Utter buried there even though the real Charles apparently disappeared maybe to S. America.
 
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