Death of the Red Baron (1 Viewer)

Actually It was on display at Chicago and in the two magazines. It retails for $189. USD. I really would like to see it in person.
 
Gee, all this time I thought Snoopy killed the Red baron, at least that's what the Royal Guardsmen said.
 
Naw - Snoopy came in on the wrong side from the fatal wound. Woodstock got him from the ground with a .303 SMLE. -- lancer
 
Yeah what a bummer to shoot down all those guys in the air and get whacked by some Austrailian firing a rifle on the ground. That's almost like getting struck by lightening while in an underground cave.
 
IMHO, von Richthofen died a hero undefeated in his element. Being KIA was a distinct honor for a professional soldier. His death left him with an unmarred reputation and a fame unequaled. Who hasn't heard of "The Red Baron"? Also, his death in action spared him the future decision of serving the Nazi regime, a decision that could only have ended in tragedy one way or the other. Udet had to make that decision and it sure turned tragic. Anyway, von Richthofen was the best and will always be remembered as such. -- lancer
 
Two observations from a novice blindman.
The plane appears to be "smallish". Surely a tri-plane would have been bigger?
I thought it was a desert scene until I read the inscription. Also, do the figures come off the base?
Mike
 
Looks like a kiddie pedal plane to me! It is off-scale. It would have been a fine collection.
 
The Dr. 1 wasn't that big of a plane, though, so it's not surprising that it might appear small, next to the figures. You really get a feel for it, when you see modern reproductions at air shows or in plane museums, next to later monoplane fighters.

The terrain isn't too far off, too. The ground he was flying over would have been relatively chewed up from several years of artillery barrages, so it should look kind of barren, I think.

Prosit!
Brad
 
Brad,
The Fokker DR1 was 19 feet long. How tall is the gent with the tail rudder? Lay him in parallel with the plane and the plane is 1.25 to 1.5 times his height.
Also the wingspan on the 1 model was 23.5 feet:eek: This Frontline is an ultralight:cool: but a nice diorama.
Mike
 
Looks like it might be a model at 1/35, while the figures may be at the larger 60mm.
 
noli-poli said:
Looks like a kiddie pedal plane to me! It is off-scale. It would have been a fine collection.
Click to expand...

Honestly, in this case, who cares about the scale, would it really be a diorama piece? I think it stands alone on its own.

Tom
 
theBaron said:
Looks like it might be a model at 1/35, while the figures may be at the larger 60mm.
Click to expand...

Brad,
I agree with your assessment. I showed the photo to my Dad, since my Gramps was a real RB fan (as well as Custer). He agreed that my Gramps would cross any mountain to get this Frontline piece! It is a winner regardless of scale .
Mike
 
tdubel said:
Honestly, in this case, who cares about the scale, would it really be a diorama piece? I think it stands alone on its own.

Tom
Click to expand...

Agreed, but I think it'll depend on the collector and his tastes, or the theme of his collection. We've seen how passionate we can be about accuracy. For someone who collects all things Frontline, there's probably no question. And for someone who collects WWI, or collects Red Baron items, I don't think he'll hesitate. But for collectors with a broader range of interests, the scale accuracy might give pause.

Prost!
Brad
 
It give me pause. I saw this in Chicago and thought it was a great diorama piece. However, if the figures are 1/30 but the plane is 1/35, that doesn't make any sense. 1/30 figures work with 1/32 planes but 1/35 is pushing it. Too bad, would have loved to have purchased it.
 
This was a release I was really looking forward to. I am now having second thoughts because of this scale problem discussion. I find it hard to believe that Frontline would go to the trouble to produce such a fine looking set and then bung it up with the wrong scale Tripe. Has anyone seen the set firsthand or know for sure that the scale is wrong? I am a von Richthofen fan but will not buy an inaccurate scale rendering. -- lancer
 
lancer said:
This was a release I was really looking forward to. I am now having second thoughts because of this scale problem discussion. I find it hard to believe that Frontline would go to the trouble to produce such a fine looking set and then bung it up with the wrong scale Tripe. Has anyone seen the set firsthand or know for sure that the scale is wrong? I am a von Richthofen fan but will not buy an inaccurate scale rendering. -- lancer
Click to expand...

See Mike's (1879fanatic's) post above, he notes the dimensions of the actual aircraft, which deflated my attempt at a defense of the model (touché, Mike, well played :D ).

Though the aircraft itself was relatively small, this model is a little too small, compared to the figures included in the kit. Mike pointed out a comparison of the length vs the height of one of the figures. I'll add that when you look at the pics, note the figure standing in front of the aircraft's nose. The cowling looks a little too small, compared to the man standing immediately next to it.

Prost!
Brad
 
Pulled my books and studied the photos for size comparisons. The Tripe in the Frontline release is undersized but by how much is hard to tell. The man holding the rudder looks ok compared to the rudder but is too tall compared to the plane itself. Wingspan and fuselage length also are too short. Just by eyeballing it is apparant that the MG's appear too small to the figures also. It is really too hard to get a realistic feel for the scale from the model photos because of angles and light but the Tripe does look small. -- lancer
 
Just a note and I know I am being a rivet counter but the rudder of the Tripe was never detached at the crash scene. The fabric cover of the rudder was removed at some point but the frame stayed attached to the aircraft. Several photos confirm this. Obvious artistic license. -- lancer
 
Lancer,
Never intended to dissuade anyone from buying this original, beautiful piece. This plane is just too smale, that's all. Now , to stir the nest a little more... Terrain. What do your sources say on the location of the downing? Muck, breastworks and barren? Maybe a little green? Late April in France and it looks like an Algerian scene? Questions, Comments, Confusion?:eek::)
Mike
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2024 XenForo Ltd.
Back
Top