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[OzDigger]

Yep, movies with Cavalry are hard to beat and I have liked the 'Garryowen' tune ever since. I got a surprise when I heard a similar tune in 'Waterloo', it must be an old ditty.

 

[Rob]

Ok guys...puts tin hat on...don't you think.....enters air raid shelter...theres a big difference between a huge star and a great actor?.I admit JW was very good in True Grit and a couple of others,but a great actor??.I think he was very good at being John Wayne but when you put him alongside some other famous actors most notably in 'The Longest day' he was very wooden indeed.Sorry guys i don't want to start a war and i do like some of his films a lot The Shootist,Sons of Katie Elder and True Grit to name three.But i would not put him in the hall of great actors,stars yes indeed one of the biggest.

Rob

 

[Rob]

Wow i posted the above post almost 13mins ago,and no one has called for my hanging yet!!

Rob

 

[Harrytheheid]

Wow i posted the above post almost 13mins ago,and no one has called for my hanging yet!!

Rob

Wait your turn Rob. The village court over on the Little Legion Section are still too busy with me.....

Cheers
H

 

[damian]

I think if you grew up in the 1970's and went to the drive in quite a bit you are not such a John Wayne fan. The cowboys I remember were the spaghetti ones especially Clint Eastwood. Bruce Lee was another boyhood hero form that era but not really JW.

 

[Spitfrnd]

Wow i posted the above post almost 13mins ago,and no one has called for my hanging yet!!

Rob

Well I won't call for your hanging mate, no I won't, the hell I won't? How about Army colts at twenty paces? Seriously though, I think he was under rated as an actor, one of the best, no; one of the most consistently entertaining, you betcha boots trooper.

 

[theBaron]

Yep, movies with Cavalry are hard to beat and I have liked the 'Garryowen' tune ever since. I got a surprise when I heard a similar tune in 'Waterloo', it must be an old ditty.

Isn't it an Irish or Scottish tune, going back at least to the end of the 17th century? I think it had become a common piece for the regimental "musick" to play by the middle of the 18th.

Or does the "Owen" indicate Welsh origins?

Prosit!
Bradley

 

[Mister Dave]

Isn't this originally an old drinking song?

MD

 

[lancer]

must add my opinion- THE DUKE RULES!- all others simply walk in his shadow. as the vaquero finds out in Red River, challenging The Duke can be "a pretty unhealthy business."

 

[Rob]

Well I won't call for your hanging mate, no I won't, the hell I won't? How about Army colts at twenty paces? Seriously though, I think he was under rated as an actor, one of the best, no; one of the most consistently entertaining, you betcha boots trooper.

Theres no doubting he had screen presence,no doubting at all mate.

As Damian said i grew up watching Clint.He had some classic lines

'I don't think it's nice you laughing'.....

Rob

 

[theBaron]

All right, I broke down and looked it up on Wikipedia:

"The origins of Garryowen are unclear, but it emerged in the late eighteenth century, when it was a drinking song of rich young roisters in Limerick. It obtained immediate popularity in the British Army through the 5th (Royal Irish) Lancers, who were garrisoned in Limerick and was played throughout the Napoleonic War, becoming the regimental march of the 18th Foot (The Royal Irish Regiment).

A very early reference to the tune appears in The Life of the Duke of Wellington by Jocquim Hayward Stocqueler, published in 1853. He describes the defence of the town of Tarifa in late December 1811, during the Peninsular War. General H. Gough, later Field Marshall Hugh Gough, 1st Viscount Gough, commanding officer of the 87th Regiment (at that time known as the Royal Irish Fusiliers), after repulsing an attack by French Grenadiers "...was not, however, merely satisfied with resistance. When the enemy, scared, ran from the walls, he drew his sword, made the band strike up 'Garry Owen', and followed the fugitives for two or three hundred yards."

Garryowen was also a favourite in the Crimean War. The tune has also been associated with a number of British military units, and is the authorised regimental march of The Irish Regiment of Canada. It was the regimental march of the Liverpool Irish, British Army.[citation needed] It is the regimental march of the London Irish Rifles (now part of The London Regiment (TA)). It was also the regimental march of the 50th (The Queen's Own) Foot (later The Queen's Own Royal West Kent Regiment) until 1869.

Garryowen became the marching tune for the 69th Infantry Regiment, New York Militia, (the famed "Fighting 69th" ) in the mid-1800s. The "Fighting 69th" adopted Garry Owen before the Civil War and recently brought it back to combat in Operation Iraqi Freedom

It later became the marching tune for the US 7th Cavalry Regiment during the late 1800s. The tune was a favorite of General George Armstrong Custer and became the official air of the Regiment in 1867. According to legend it was the last tune played before the Battle of the Little Bighorn.

The name of the tune has become a part of the regiment, the words Garry Owen are part of the regimental crest, and there is a Camp Garry Owen, north of Seoul, Korea, which houses part of the 4th Squadron of the regiment.The Seventh Cavalry regiment became a part of the US 1st Cavalry Division in 1921, and "Garryowen" became the official tune of the division in 1981.

The word garryowen is derived from Irish, the proper name Eóghan ("born of the yew tree") and the word for garden garrai - thus "Eóghan's Garden". The term refers to an area of the town of Limerick, Ireland.

In 1993, the popular Civil War Music Company, The 97th Regimental Stringband, recorded 'Garryowen' on their 'Marching Along' (Volume 6), a CD of Marching tunes"

So it's Irish, as near as anyone can tell (etymological note-did "yew" come into English from the Gaelic?-have to look that one up, too).

Prost!
Bradley

 

[gk5717]

Check out You Tube with Stevie Riks doing the Bee Gees.
Gary

 

[Harrytheheid]

Theres no doubting he had screen presence,no doubting at all mate.

As Damian said i grew up watching Clint.He had some classic lines

'I don't think it's nice you laughing'.....

Rob

Aye, Clint was especially good in that movie who's name I can't quite remember. Something about gold bullion, a bank, special Sherman tanks.....just can't quite get the name....

ONLY KIDDIN'

Cheers
H

 

[chiefs70]

When we saw Ozzie, Zaak was ok, nothing special. I think Rob Zombie's lead guitarist was actually better.

The year you are referrring to John 5 played guitar for Rob Zombie and I would agree. I'm a fan of Zakk but John 5 is a phenomenal guitarist and songwriter. He can switch styles fluidly and has an extremely high music IQ. I've never seen him live but I'm sure it was a treat.

Oh boy - that Steve Riks fellow is hilarious! Great stuff.

 

[OzDigger]

All right, I broke down and looked it up on Wikipedia:

"The origins of Garryowen are unclear, but it emerged in the late eighteenth century, when it was a drinking song of rich young roisters in Limerick. It obtained immediate popularity in the British Army through the 5th (Royal Irish) Lancers, who were garrisoned in Limerick and was played throughout the Napoleonic War, becoming the regimental march of the 18th Foot (The Royal Irish Regiment).

A very early reference to the tune appears in The Life of the Duke of Wellington by Jocquim Hayward Stocqueler, published in 1853. He describes the defence of the town of Tarifa in late December 1811, during the Peninsular War. General H. Gough, later Field Marshall Hugh Gough, 1st Viscount Gough, commanding officer of the 87th Regiment (at that time known as the Royal Irish Fusiliers), after repulsing an attack by French Grenadiers "...was not, however, merely satisfied with resistance. When the enemy, scared, ran from the walls, he drew his sword, made the band strike up 'Garry Owen', and followed the fugitives for two or three hundred yards."

Garryowen was also a favourite in the Crimean War. The tune has also been associated with a number of British military units, and is the authorised regimental march of The Irish Regiment of Canada. It was the regimental march of the Liverpool Irish, British Army.[citation needed] It is the regimental march of the London Irish Rifles (now part of The London Regiment (TA)). It was also the regimental march of the 50th (The Queen's Own) Foot (later The Queen's Own Royal West Kent Regiment) until 1869.

Garryowen became the marching tune for the 69th Infantry Regiment, New York Militia, (the famed "Fighting 69th" ) in the mid-1800s. The "Fighting 69th" adopted Garry Owen before the Civil War and recently brought it back to combat in Operation Iraqi Freedom

It later became the marching tune for the US 7th Cavalry Regiment during the late 1800s. The tune was a favorite of General George Armstrong Custer and became the official air of the Regiment in 1867. According to legend it was the last tune played before the Battle of the Little Bighorn.

The name of the tune has become a part of the regiment, the words Garry Owen are part of the regimental crest, and there is a Camp Garry Owen, north of Seoul, Korea, which houses part of the 4th Squadron of the regiment.The Seventh Cavalry regiment became a part of the US 1st Cavalry Division in 1921, and "Garryowen" became the official tune of the division in 1981.

The word garryowen is derived from Irish, the proper name Eóghan ("born of the yew tree") and the word for garden garrai - thus "Eóghan's Garden". The term refers to an area of the town of Limerick, Ireland.

In 1993, the popular Civil War Music Company, The 97th Regimental Stringband, recorded 'Garryowen' on their 'Marching Along' (Volume 6), a CD of Marching tunes"

So it's Irish, as near as anyone can tell (etymological note-did "yew" come into English from the Gaelic?-have to look that one up, too).

Prost!
Bradley

I reckon I'll buy some shares in Google

I was watching the tv series 'The West' last night and in that it said most of the US Soldiers/Cavalry during the Indian Wars era were from Ireland and Scotland. Maybe they also had some influence on what tunes were used.

 

[redhugh]

Wonder when the pics of the new collector's club figures wil be available, interesting to see what the WW2 Tanker looks like

 

[kilted vampire]

Hi Guys,

Just a few random thoughts on this ‘n’ that…

1. “Don’t knock The Duke!”

Now, it’s not often Jazzeum and me have a difference of opinion however I will take issue with him on “dissing” the acting talents of “The Duke”. I loved the big man as a wee boy going to the “pictures” back in Scotland then and I love him now watching him on DVD’s. His range might have been limited but he knew what he was good at… and his star shone brightly for over 40 years! That’s one helluva achievement. Here are a few random examples of “The Duke” at his best.

“They Were Expendable”
“She Wore a Yellow Ribbon”
“Rio Grande”
“The Quiet Man”
“True Grit”
“The Shootist”
“Sands of Iwo Jima”

“The Searchers”

Hollywood makes lots of stars but only a few become “cultural icon”… “The Duke” was one of those “FEW”.

2. Club Figures

Usually at K&C HK we have two sets of releases of Club Figures a year… The next ones will be publicly announced next week but I’m telling you guys now as long as you promise to keep it to yourselves!!!

Balthasar “Bobby” Woll, Michael Wittman’s famous tank gunner. Amazingly, he survived the war and died just a few years ago.

Skinner’s Horse Lancer (on foot), the famous Indian Cavalry Regiment dressed in parade yellow tunic.

Scinde Horse Lancer, also known as Jacob’s Horse. Dressed parade-style in dark green tunic.

As for Kings X we’ve released the first two of our “Hollywood Cavalry”… the officer and the sergeant… we will be releasing early next year the next two… also cavalry in the John Ford style. Glad you liked them.

3. “John, Paul, George, Ringo and Stevie”

And now, as Monty Python would say, for something completely different… As a “child of the sixties” I grew up with The Beatles… To a lot of young British working class guys like me they showed that you could do anything and be anyone you wanted to be… they were a blast of fresh air and a huge talent that conquered Britain and then the world.

So, as you can see I’m still a fan… I was fiddling around on YOUTube the other day listening to a whole bunch of Beatles “golden oldies” and seeing some vintage clips when I came across “Paul Serenades John”… It was bloody brilliant! This incredibly clever and funny British guy, Stevie Riks was doing the most amazing impersonations of John, Paul, George & Ringo I have ever seen. He captures the looks, mannerisms and most importantly… the voices of the Fab Four. Not only that he does it all himself at home on his own video!!!

Please, please me and check this guy out. He also does Bowie… Elton John… Freddy Mercury (really funny)… Jagger… Richards and Ozzy Osbourne…

You must see this man! Peace and Love,

Andy C.

Well Pilgrim, I kinda like those movies too! Wahh-ha! Don't know to much about those noisy Beatle bug characters. I kinda think some of them need a haircut.

 

[redhugh]

Wonder when the pics of the new collector's club figures wil be available, interesting to see what the WW2 Tanker looks like

Might as well have a guess, eastern front tank gunner, maybe "camouflaged panzer uniform"?

 

[nasirkasmani]

Might as well have a guess, eastern front tank gunner, maybe "camouflaged panzer uniform"?

i think he will be in this camo.

fitting as the collectors club Wittmann figure was wearing the black ss panzer uniform.

 

[redhugh]

i think he will be in this camo.

fitting as the collectors club Wittmann figure was wearing the black ss panzer uniform.

maybe he will come with a tiger tank as well all for $23