Holy Schneike! $1,025 for a resin & metal Kubelwagon!! (1 Viewer)

[Louis Badolato]

Last night on ebay, a K&C classic (1996) resin and metal kubelwagon (far and away the highest production K&C resin & metal vehicles, with around 100 produced) sold for $1,025!!! I bought my three during production for between $150 and $180 (I recently bought one from George (warrior) for $600 for Hans).

If the Kubelwagon goes for north of $1,000 now, I can only imagine what the far bigger and lower production K&C wood, resin and metal vehicles (Tiger Tank, StuG IV, StuG III, Jagdpanther, 8 Wheeled Armored Car, Prime Mover pulling 88mm, Hanomag, Sherman, Bren Gun Carrier, Quad Gun & Limber, Austin K2 Ambulance, Bedford QL Fuel Bowser, M48 Duster (Vietnam), M113 APC (Vietnam), Para Jeep, Cromwell Tank, LRDG Chevy 30 CWT Truck) of which 5-50 of each were made between 1996 and 1998, would go for today. I would have to imagine at least $1,500 to more than $2,000.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Last night on ebay, a K&C classic (1996) resin and metal kubelwagon (far and away the highest production K&C resin & metal vehicles, with around 100 produced) sold for $1,025!!! I bought my three during production for between $150 and $180 (I recently bought one from George (warrior) for $600 for Hans).

If the Kubelwagon goes for north of $1,000 now, I can only imagine what the far bigger and lower production K&C wood, resin and metal vehicles (Tiger Tank, StuG IV, StuG III, Jagdpanther, 8 Wheeled Armored Car, Prime Mover pulling 88mm, Hanomag, Sherman, Bren Gun Carrier, Quad Gun & Limber, Austin K2 Ambulance, Bedford QL Fuel Bowser, M48 Duster (Vietnam), M113 APC (Vietnam), Para Jeep, Cromwell Tank, LRDG Chevy 30 CWT Truck) of which 5-50 of each were made between 1996 and 1998, would go for today. I would have to imagine at least $1,500 to more than $2,000.

That's rarefied atmosphere - I don't go there

Terry

 

[jazzeum]

I have one and for that price or something close to it, I would sell it. Could turn it into a Warbird.

 

[toyking]

if you have one i would love to buy it sendme pm

 

[jazzeum]

Just sent you one.

 

[MarkeytMaker]

Last night on ebay, a K&C classic (1996) resin and metal kubelwagon (far and away the highest production K&C resin & metal vehicles, with around 100 produced) sold for $1,025!!! I bought my three during production for between $150 and $180 (I recently bought one from George (warrior) for $600 for Hans).

If the Kubelwagon goes for north of $1,000 now, I can only imagine what the far bigger and lower production K&C wood, resin and metal vehicles (Tiger Tank, StuG IV, StuG III, Jagdpanther, 8 Wheeled Armored Car, Prime Mover pulling 88mm, Hanomag, Sherman, Bren Gun Carrier, Quad Gun & Limber, Austin K2 Ambulance, Bedford QL Fuel Bowser, M48 Duster (Vietnam), M113 APC (Vietnam), Para Jeep, Cromwell Tank, LRDG Chevy 30 CWT Truck) of which 5-50 of each were made between 1996 and 1998, would go for today. I would have to imagine at least $1,500 to more than $2,000.

I think K&C has an elite group of products. I love how it can be a high dollar hobby yet substainable for those who don't have the money to pay for the more expensive stuff. I'm classifing my status now as a high dollar investor/collector (lawyer,dentist,doctor level)...how long I can substain these levels is another question, since Im neither of the above! If you are not so fortunate to have high dollar status it is still quite amazing to think what you can buy currently for a reasonable amount of money which can bring a good return in such a short time frame.

 

[Louis Badolato]

I think K&C has an elite group of products. I love how it can be a high dollar hobby yet substainable for those who don't have the money to pay for the more expensive stuff. I'm classifing my status now as a high dollar investor/collector (lawyer,dentist,doctor level)...how long I can substain these levels is another question, since Im neither of the above! If you are not so fortunate to have high dollar status it is still quite amazing to think what you can buy currently for a reasonable amount of money which can bring a good return in such a short time frame.

I was lucky enough to have started collecting K&C back in late 1993, before there was any secondary market for their products. As a result, I was able to buy 90% of my collection at or below the original retail price. Now that I am married with children, I could never afford to buy the items I bought back then at todays inflated prices. In fact, I have taken to trading duplicates of my classic K&C items to obtain big ticket items I can't afford to lay out the money for (like the Figarti Shock & Awe pieces).

I agree that there has been an amazing return on the investment made in K&C products. Anyone who had the good fortune to purchase K&C's products back in the 1990's at retail can certainly sell them for a tidy profit in today's secondary market. I, however, only benefit from this via trades of duplicates, as I love my K&C collection far to much to ever part with any of it.

 

[Njja]

If you are not so fortunate to have high dollar status it is still quite amazing to think what you can buy currently for a reasonable amount of money which can bring a good return in such a short time frame.

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Yes especially with the ever increasing number of "dealers.....collector....
speculators......call them what you will popping up daily listing retired items for .99.

One can clearly see a bright future for the value of collections.

I guess the lure of cheap listing fees overcomes common sense in many
instances.

Lets see......there are already 3 DD60's listed on Ebay.......I think I'll list mine and start it at .99...............yup

 

[Vezzolf]

Last night on ebay, a K&C classic (1996) resin and metal kubelwagon (far and away the highest production K&C resin & metal vehicles, with around 100 produced) sold for $1,025!!! I bought my three during production for between $150 and $180 (I recently bought one from George (warrior) for $600 for Hans).

If the Kubelwagon goes for north of $1,000 now, I can only imagine what the far bigger and lower production K&C wood, resin and metal vehicles (Tiger Tank, StuG IV, StuG III, Jagdpanther, 8 Wheeled Armored Car, Prime Mover pulling 88mm, Hanomag, Sherman, Bren Gun Carrier, Quad Gun & Limber, Austin K2 Ambulance, Bedford QL Fuel Bowser, M48 Duster (Vietnam), M113 APC (Vietnam), Para Jeep, Cromwell Tank, LRDG Chevy 30 CWT Truck) of which 5-50 of each were made between 1996 and 1998, would go for today. I would have to imagine at least $1,500 to more than $2,000.

I wouldn't bet on this as a strategy....Not many folks would lay out that kind of cash for toys

 

[johngambale]

Last Week someone sold 3-OLD Retired Original Metal ARNHEM Jeeps--AN05------AN06(Ambulance Jeep-----and Rariest AN0)-Airborne Jeep! The 3-Jeeps brought around $760.00US Each! CIAO!

 

[MarkeytMaker]

I was lucky enough to have started collecting K&C back in late 1993, before there was any secondary market for their products. As a result, I was able to buy 90% of my collection at or below the original retail price. Now that I am married with children, I could never afford to buy the items I bought back then at todays inflated prices. In fact, I have taken to trading duplicates of my classic K&C items to obtain big ticket items I can't afford to lay out the money for (like the Figarti Shock & Awe pieces).

I agree that there has been an amazing return on the investment made in K&C products. Anyone who had the good fortune to purchase K&C's products back in the 1990's at retail can certainly sell them for a tidy profit in today's secondary market. I, however, only benefit from this via trades of duplicates, as I love my K&C collection far to much to ever part with any of it.

I believe that someone who purchases an item today that was made a few years ago will do well come 2015 if they so choose to part with it.

 

[Njja]

I believe that someone who purchases an item today that was made a few years ago will do well come 2015 if they so choose to part with it.

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Of course one must defer to your vast experience, my only question would
be what you plan to do for boxes when you sell your 21 piece band seperately?

How silly of me......you will sell the box as well. Lets see $10 shipping for each piece + the box........

 

[tdubel]

I wouldn't bet on this as a strategy....Not many folks would lay out that kind of cash for toys

Vez, as we like to debate this.

You would be surprised at what people lay out for the classics and not just toy soldiers.

IMO, the following will be long term winners:

1. Original K&C (prior to recent boom) - stuff from 2003 and before was made in smaller quantities and still drives the "collector" nuts and they have to have it.

2. Trophy - continues to keep going up, ex. $100 artillery Sudan sets selling for $400 to $500. Rorkes Drift at least double in price to $1500.

3. Timpo - I have now been offered north of $700 for a $35 battery operated train set.

4. PLastic Play sets - Marx - have you seen an original Untouchables lately? I just got offered a tidy sum for a Mexican repro from original moulds.

5. American Flyer Trains

6. Lionel Trains

I have not even touched on original tinplate, etc. Collectibles go on and on and on. Look at coin collections - even more of a metoric rise due to the price of precious metals. I collect proof sets every year from the mint for about a $100 annual investment. Right now, it looks like a good idea.

As long as there is a human race, there will be collectors. Not every piece will be a collectors item, but there are plenty of nuts amongst us collectors who will pay whatever it takes to obtain the piece they want.

 

[Peter Reuss]

Yet for every story of a collectable that takes off in value, there are probably 5 stories of ones that aren't worth a thing.

It's simple supply and demand, yet predicting future demand is pretty impossible. Isn't it often the things that NOBODY expected to be collectable that become the things everyone wants??

Buy what you like...enjoy it while you can...if you make something on it later, well and good.

 

[Njja]

Vez, as we like to debate this.

You would be surprised at what people lay out for the classics and not just toy soldiers.

IMO, the following will be long term winners:

1. Original K&C (prior to recent boom) - stuff from 2003 and before was made in smaller quantities and still drives the "collector" nuts and they have to have it.

2. Trophy - continues to keep going up, ex. $100 artillery Sudan sets selling for $400 to $500. Rorkes Drift at least double in price to $1500.

3. Timpo - I have now been offered north of $700 for a $35 battery operated train set.

4. PLastic Play sets - Marx - have you seen an original Untouchables lately? I just got offered a tidy sum for a Mexican repro from original moulds.

5. American Flyer Trains

6. Lionel Trains

I have not even touched on original tinplate, etc. Collectibles go on and on and on. Look at coin collections - even more of a metoric rise due to the price of precious metals. I collect proof sets every year from the mint for about a $100 annual investment. Right now, it looks like a good idea.

As long as there is a human race, there will be collectors. Not every piece will be a collectors item, but there are plenty of nuts amongst us collectors who will pay whatever it takes to obtain the piece they want.

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Tom:

As usual good points one and all. I normally only collect old toys from the 1950's 1960's from when I was a boy. I became interested in King & Country because I always enjoyed military figures. Your observations about the early sets I believe is accurate.

 

[Iron Brigade]

I was lucky enough to have started collecting K&C back in late 1993, before there was any secondary market for their products. As a result, I was able to buy 90% of my collection at or below the original retail price. Now that I am married with children, I could never afford to buy the items I bought back then at todays inflated prices. In fact, I have taken to trading duplicates of my classic K&C items to obtain big ticket items I can't afford to lay out the money for (like the Figarti Shock & Awe pieces).

I agree that there has been an amazing return on the investment made in K&C products. Anyone who had the good fortune to purchase K&C's products back in the 1990's at retail can certainly sell them for a tidy profit in today's secondary market. I, however, only benefit from this via trades of duplicates, as I love my K&C collection far to much to ever part with any of it.

Hello:

I started collecting "toy soldiers" the end of 1991. I mainly got Trophy at first, then Frontline Figs & by late 1990's mainly just K&C. I started selling on eBay in 2005 my excess toy soldier sets & I soon learned that K&C was the only hot seller back then with Trophy only getting respect after 2006 when they went "completly" out of business. In mid 2005 I sold a K&C set WS19(W) for $455 that only cost me $49.00 or less. At this time I was selling thru a eBay consignment seller who was very amazed indeed! I soon took note that I could often ( but not always ) get new K&C sets and sell the old ones for good to super good profits! since 8/2005 I am selling on my own on eBay & avoiding the consignment seller fees. But buying K&C only to make future profits may or may not be a good idea. There is no sure thing.

Gary / "Iron Brigade" 1/29/2010

 

[jazzeum]

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Tom:

As usual good points one and all. I normally only collect old toys from the 1950's 1960's from when I was a boy. I became interested in King & Country because I always enjoyed military figures. Your observations about the early sets I believe is accurate.

I agree with Tom and John. I'm not sure if items made today will bring high amounts in years to come. I say not sure because WS 43, Wittmann's Last Tiger has brought generally good prices even though quite a few were made. I'm sure that if the collectors continue to increase so will the prices for retired items.

 

[Blowtorch]

Last night on ebay, a K&C classic (1996) resin and metal kubelwagon (far and away the highest production K&C resin & metal vehicles, with around 100 produced) .

I have one of these & the license plates disintegrated-both front & rear. Never near water or UV, and spent most of it's days in storage. That happen to anyone else?

 

[HAWKEYE]

I do not see how you guys can sell items unless under duress. I just can't bring myself to a point to let go and sell. All the kc, trophy, frontline and others bring me joy. But i guess if someone offered to buy the whole lot at once, one might have to think about it. But who really has a couple hundred thousand to do that with. Toy soldier time does let one forget about their stress and troubles. I suppose a few of you feel the same way.

 

[thebritfarmer]

I do not see how you guys can sell items unless under duress. I just can't bring myself to a point to let go and sell. All the kc, trophy, frontline and others bring me joy. But i guess if someone offered to buy the whole lot at once, one might have to think about it. But who really has a couple hundred thousand to do that with. Toy soldier time does let one forget about their stress and troubles. I suppose a few of you feel the same way.

I certainly do and agree with you whole heartedly. I even have one set of soldiers that do not fit in anywhere with my collection and still I am in two minds whether or not to let them go.