How many different poly warbirds are there? (1 Viewer)

[marksable]

RE: Larger Warbirds (1:30 bombers in particular) - I wonder if there's a solution that involves a different material than Polystone (where there would be weight issues) or wood (which I imagine is hand carved, thus more expensive). Metal, or, dare I suggest it - plastic?

Even if weight/size/price issues were figured out, I doubt I'd ever have room for a heavy bomber, but a light to medium one would be nice.

Honestly, I'm just excited Andy is doing the Stuka. My most anticipated release of 2011, for sure.

Also, reading the latest collector, one warbird I'd like to see (re)produced is the Swordfish. If Andy is going to go into WWI anyway as the speculation goes, why not a WWII biplane etc.

And of course, a 1:30 scale Polystone Bismarck for it to sink

Also - went back and this from an earlier post from Andy which should answer everyone's questions about produced/announced Warbirds:

"Up to this point K&C Warbirds has produced the following:
(In no particular order)
(I) Hawker Hurricane (2 versions)
(II) P51 Mustang
(III) Messerschmitt Bf 108
(IV) Messerschmitt Bf 109 “F” Trop
(V) Supermarine Spitfire (1 version already another on the way)
(VI) Messerschmitt 163 “Komet”
(VII) Focke Wulf 190

On the immediate upcoming production schedule we have
(VIII) Messerschmitt 262
(IX) P47 Thunderbolt
(X) Hawker Typhoon

And let’s not forget…
Junkers 87 “Stuka”
P38 Lightning
F4U Corsair
F6F Hellcat
Messerschmitt 109 “E”
Mitsubishi Zero"

 

[Mitch]

I had forgotten that the P38 was on the hit list of polystone warbirds. Now the me 262 is the biggest warbird to date and, has twin engines and made of polystone and has worked.

The P-38 is much bigger than the 262 (dimensions for both below) and Andy must believe that he can do this aircraft in polystone again a large twin engined and twin framed aircraft which, must be quite a challenge to make in polystone so, really it seems that the manufacturing of large aircraft in polystone is something which Andy and team has cracked. Its not too unfeasible to think a HE 111 could be made as its not really a great deal larger than the P-38

Price concerns and shipping may be a problem but, again, Andy must have this sussed if he intends to do this aircraft

Dimensions

P-38
Wing span 15.84 metres
length 11.53 metres
Height 3.91 metres

262
wing span 12.5 metres
length 10.6 metres
height 3.8 metres

Just for fun, the Heinkell 111 dimensions are:

wing span 22.6 metres
length 16.4 metres
height 3.4 metres
Mitch

 

[lancer]

I disagree about the size difference between the P-38 and HE111. The 111 is much bigger thean the P-38, both in span and length, not to mention the area of the wings themselves. KC may well have solved the size problem for polystone P-38's and possibly the size problem for larger aircraft but there is no real comparison between the sizes of the 111 and P-38. -- Al

 

[Beaufighter]

I had forgotten that the P38 was on the hit list of polystone warbirds. Now the me 262 is the biggest warbird to date and, has twin engines and made of polystone and has worked.

The P-38 is much bigger than the 262 (dimensions for both below) and Andy must believe that he can do this aircraft in polystone again a large twin engined and twin framed aircraft which, must be quite a challenge to make in polystone so, really it seems that the manufacturing of large aircraft in polystone is something which Andy and team has cracked. Its not too unfeasible to think a HE 111 could be made as its not really a great deal larger than the P-38

Price concerns and shipping may be a problem but, again, Andy must have this sussed if he intends to do this aircraft

Dimensions

P-38
Wing span 15.84 metres
length 11.53 metres
Height 3.91 metres

262
wing span 12.5 metres
length 10.6 metres
height 3.8 metres

Just for fun, the Heinkell 111 dimensions are:

wing span 22.6 metres
length 16.4 metres
height 3.4 metres
Mitch

Cheers Mitch,

What about making plug type wings that simply insert into the respective fuselage thereby eliminating large molds with potential weak points? Although the shipping box may be thick with multiple layers, the width would be manageable. But then again, maybe more molds will result in more $$. As always, just my thoughts as I would love to see some of these larger twin engine warbirds too.

Tally Ho,
Marc

 

[Mitch]

Lancer...
I did say it was bigger just not hugely bigger and thus could be a feasable option
Mitch

 

[Phantom Warrior]

I think there is quite a size difference at 1/30 scale. The 262 wingspan is 16 inches. The P-38 will be 21 inches - that's getting near to 2 ft. Take out a tape measure and consider how big that really is.

An He 111 is a big model at 1/72 scale and is huge at 1/48. At 1/30 scale it's wingspan would be 30 inches. Imagine the size and the weight.

Terry

 

[lancer]

Lancer...
I did say it was bigger just not hugely bigger and thus could be a feasable option
Mitch

Maybe a He111 is feasible. I don't know. I just know an He111 is quite a bit bigger than a P-38. I think, based on scale size, that it would be possible to put at least two 1/30 P-38's in the same display space as a 1/30 He111 with enough room for another 1/2 a P-38. This isn't scientific, just based on my 1/72 scale P-38's and He111. The He111 is MUCH larger. A 1/30 He111 would be a huge beast, and heavy. On the P-38, I can't wait to see that. It should be a beauty. -- Al

 

[Mitch]

phantom warrior...

Yes, they are getting bigger but, I recall a thread not so long back where several stated polystone aircraft were a non starter due to weight, expence etc and, Andy has overcome these issues and is moving into larger aircraft especially looking at the P 38 which, even at 21 inches is on Andy's hitlist.

I was just saying that its not out of the realms of possibility that he can manufacture larger aircraft I raised the HE 111 as another poster had brought it up (whether it would all be polystone and metal is another debate). I think the manufacture of such products could be done its cost and shipping which become the problem though, there are probably enough collectors who would still buy even the large aircraft to make it viable.
Mitch

 

[lancer]

JMO, but I believe that just about any WW2 aircraft larger than a fighter is going to run into size, cost, weight problems. The P-38 is a big fighter and may be pushing the outside of the envelope for a viable size aircraft. Can you imagine the size of such aircraft as a B-25, Wellington, or Ju-88 in 1/30? Even if they can be made, I don't know if many collectors could afford one, price wise or space wise. I know I couldn't. The fighter aircraft are probably the only viable choices. -- Al

 

[Mitch]

I think you are probably right about staying with fighter aircraft but, its very exciting being able to discuss the fact that light bombers could be done in the future. We have seen Andy push that envelope to bursting point many times before
Mitch