JJ Collectors Club (3 Viewers)

[mikemiller1955]

I'm just curious....will anybody commit to joining right here and right now?

I will....in fact I already did Thursday when my dealer called me and sent me the info.

I bought one membership.

If you do commit....how many memberships or Lt. Jenkins sets would you order?

I bet these are going to be a hot resale on Ebay somewhere down the line.

I wonder what they will go for in two years, lol.

 

[nysoldiers]

I'm in..................
John's work keeps improving and I love the way he keeps building on a line.
Great for dioramas and historical recreations.

 

[chalklands]

If you buy 10 figures you get 10 memberships.

You are then allowed to buy the next released figure in the increments of memberships you have purchased on the previous figure.

Am I making sense?

John's web site says: 'Members may PRE-ORDER 1 special club set per membership

Members may order more than 1 set, but must PRE-PAY for the extra sets.'

Therefore I think you only have to join once & can then buy as many club figures as you want.

Pete

 

[chalklands]

I'm just curious....will anybody commit to joining right here and right now?

I will....in fact I already did Thursday when my dealer called me and sent me the info.

I bought one membership.

If you do commit....how many memberships or Lt. Jenkins sets would you order?

I bet these are going to be a hot resale on Ebay somewhere down the line.

I wonder what they will go for in two years, lol.

I'm sure there will be some collectors who will buy multiples for that reason. But there again it's a free world I suppose!

 

[mk26gmls]

I understood the rules to be that you buy one figure and you get one membership.

If you buy 10 figures you get 10 memberships.

You are then allowed to buy the next released figure in the increments of memberships you have purchased on the previous figure.

I mean...as long as the are "one off figures" or celebrity figures that I would only want one of......then I'm okay with that.

He did tell me that if he released sets that customers might buy in multiples, he would release them as "general releases", with no restrictions on amounts purchased as allowed by amounts of each members memberships allow.

So, i was glad to hear that.

If he released "firing lines" or "marching sets"....I would want multiple purchases.

I wouldn't want to be restricted to only one of these because I only bought one membership on the original Lt. Jenkins release.

I just hope the collector's releases are things like "flag bearers", "celebrity figures" or "one off pieces", because I will only buy one Lt. Jenkins.

Am I making sense?

Mike, it is my understanding that you only have to buy one Lt Jenkins figure to be in the Collector's Club. At that point, when the pre-order of the Halkett set begins, you can pre-order as many as you want regardless of how many Lt Jenkins figures you have already purchased. So, if you buy one Lt Jenkins figure, you can order 15 sets of Halkett sets when the pre-order period begins if you want.

I found this on a website, but I know I have read it in one of my books at the office. Can't remember which one. I thought it interesting. If I am not mistaken, George Washington was there when they found the remains of the Halketts as well. I know that Washington had returned to the site with others to bury the remains 2 or 3 years after the battle.
http://halkett.ca/graham/?page_id=16

"Colonel Sir Peter Halket fought in the French and Indian War in the British ‘Colonies’ (in the U.S. this was known as the “French and Indian War”, in the U.K, it was the “Seven Years War”) . Sir Peter was shot and killed during the Battle of Duquesne (also known as Braddock’s Defeat) on July 9, 1755, near what is now called Pittsburgh, PA. His son, Lt. James Halket, saw his father get shot and ran to his aid, when he was also shot and died, alongside his father. Also of interest, there was a young Lt. Col. on Sir Peter’s staff who is somewhat familiar to us….. his name was George Washington. (Needless to say, Lt. Col. Washington survived the battle). Two years after “Braddock’s Defeat”, another of Sir Peter’s sons, Major Francis Halket went with a detachment to provide proper burials for their fallen countrymen. A now-friendly Indian told of two British officers being felled at the foot of an unusual looking tree and was able to locate the tree. It was there that Major Francis Halket was able to identify the remains of his father and brother, and was able to give them a proper Scottish burial with Tartan and Pipes."

 

[chalklands]

John's web site says: 'Members may PRE-ORDER 1 special club set per membership

Members may order more than 1 set, but must PRE-PAY for the extra sets.'

Therefore I think you only have to join once & can then buy as many club figures as you want.

Pete

Think I should add, I received the 'Jenkins' figure on Friday (Caption prize!) and it is one not to miss....top notch sculpting and painting!!!
All the better because it was completely out of the blue.....A figure I hadn't even read about, never mind seeing a picture of...Like winning the lottery (sort of)...Well chuffed!

 

[mikemiller1955]

John's web site says: 'Members may PRE-ORDER 1 special club set per membership

Members may order more than 1 set, but must PRE-PAY for the extra sets.'

Therefore I think you only have to join once & can then buy as many club figures as you want.

Pete

This is the way Randy just explained it to me.

I just don't understand the "pre pay" part.

I pre pay for my purchases no matter where I buy, retailer, member on Treefrog or Ebay.

Don't we all pre pay?

 

[chalklands]

This is the way Randy just explained it to me.

I just don't understand the "pre pay" part.

I pre pay for my purchases no matter where I buy, retailer, member on Treefrog or Ebay.

Don't we all pre pay?

Mike,
Think you don't necessary need to pre pay if you're just buying one, just have to state your intention..suppose John can then guage whether to produce or not from that. I suppose this limits the risk if somebody orders 100 and then doesn't pay, whereas if somebody orders 1 and then doesn't pay, no great financial loss.

Pete

 

[Warrior]

Ok fellas, here are more answers to your questions........

DS1FSE; John will make as many of a set as the dealers indicate their club member customers want. In other words, if he shows a release as coming next month and the dealers poll their customers and come back with a total of 200, then 200 will be made, that is it. Not sure what minimum quantity would be the magic number for production; my assumption is with as popular as the JJD figures are, I cannot forsee a situation where 20 or 30 requests would come in on a particular release, his figures are just to popular for that to happen.

Mark; no fee is required, all you have to do is order the first figure from your dealer of choice and you are automatically a member of the club.

General question about "prepaying"; what is meant by that is if someone wants to buy more than one of any release, it may be a good idea for that person to "prepay" for the additional sets, especially considering that the sets are being "made to order" if that makes sense.

As a dealer, I never require customers to prepay for anything; I guess my concern is if there is a delay in production and an item that has been prepaid for does not come when announced, the customer will get upset that I have been holding his money for say a month and now the item will be delayed and not be here for say two more months, then the customer get annoyed at me.

To be blunt, this has happened to me in the past where a customer paid via Paypal because "he had the funds in there and wanted to use them"; I did not want to take the money, he insisted and right as rain, the product was delayed. He ended up getting torked off at me and demanded I refund his money, which I did. That was THE last time I took a prepay.

This has never, ever happened with Johns products (production delays); I guess the issue is when the goods are delivered and the dealer contacts the customer and says your order is ready to go and he gets "Oh well, yeah, you see, my transmission fell out of my car/dog died/lawn needed to be reseeded/kids needed new shoes/I changed my mind and don't want five of those now, I only want one", now the dealer is stuck with club sets that he cannot sell outside of the club.

Bottom line is when you preorder something, the dealer assumes when it comes in you'll step up, pay the man and take delivery of the product, which happens 99.9999999% of the time anyway......................

 

[kogu]

That's a great idea with this collector's club.
I am joining too.
For anybody interested here is some info related to the upcoming JJ club set no. 1, Sir Peter Halkett and Son.
It is from the Robert Griffing Book "His journey into the Eastern Frontier" and the picture is called "The Reunion". I made a photo of the describing text too.
Looking forward to see how the club will be received.
Konrad

 

[marco55]

Thank you Konrad for posting this.
Mark

 

[PolarBear]

I would like to suggest that there be a choice of annual club figures representing each of the main subjects John does: French & Indian War, War of 1812, and the Jacobite Rebellion. I believe this would attract more members since, for example, if a collector does not collect War of 1812 and that is the only annual figure, there might be less incentive to join. The W. Britain Collectors Club usually has 3 or 4 figures to choose from, basically from their most popular lines. What do others think?

 

[mk26gmls]

I would like to suggest that there be a choice of annual club figures representing each of the main subjects John does: French & Indian War, War of 1812, and the Jacobite Rebellion. I believe this would attract more members since, for example, if a collector does not collect War of 1812 and that is the only annual figure, there might be less incentive to join. The W. Britain Collectors Club usually has 3 or 4 figures to choose from, basically from their most popular lines. What do others think?

I am not sure that is this just an annual thing with the Special sets. There just might be more offerings in a given year. Who knows, maybe John will offer a new potential set every quarter or so.

 

[Fraxinus]

Ok, the 2009 JJ Club figure is Lt. Jenkins. So I am going to step out on a limb and predict the 2010 JJ Club Figure will be Lt. Jenkins!!!

After the surrender of New France to the British in September of 1760, Robert Rogers dispatched troops to occupy Ouiatenon. a contingent of British soldiers led by Lieutenant Edward Jenkins arrived in 1761, capturing and occupying the fort. On June 1, 1763, during Pontiac's War, the Wea, Kickapoo and Mascouten peoples captured Ouiatenon. They surprised Lieutenant Jenkins and his men and captured Fort Ouiatenon without firing a shot. Seven similar posts were also captured in the widespread Indian uprising against the British presence.


Different individuals, but both direct ancestors to John!!

 

[PolarBear]

Ok, the 2009 JJ Club figure is Lt. Jenkins. So I am going to step out on a limb and predict the 2010 JJ Club Figure will be Lt. Jenkins!!!

After the surrender of New France to the British in September of 1760, Robert Rogers dispatched troops to occupy Ouiatenon. a contingent of British soldiers led by Lieutenant Edward Jenkins arrived in 1761, capturing and occupying the fort. On June 1, 1763, during Pontiac's War, the Wea, Kickapoo and Mascouten peoples captured Ouiatenon. They surprised Lieutenant Jenkins and his men and captured Fort Ouiatenon without firing a shot. Seven similar posts were also captured in the widespread Indian uprising against the British presence.


Different individuals, but both direct ancestors to John!!

And don't forget the War of Jenkins' Ear (1739-1748) fought between Britain and Spain.

 

[Fraxinus]

Outstanding, Polar!!!! We got 2009, 2010 and now 2011 covered!!! By 2011, Lt. Jenkins has risen in the ranks to Captain Jenkins!!!

 

[Warrior]

Ok, more clarification on the club series; John is hopeful that he will be able to release an addition to the club series every 3 months.

The issue is a 30 preview followed by a 30 day window for dealers to put in orders followed by the figure/set goes into production, so it will be tight for 4 releases per year, we'll just have to see how it goes.

So your assumption about there being one club figure annually is incorrect.

Also, it's not feasible for John to do an annual club figure to represent each of the 4 ranges he currently sells as it's already been pointed out that club figures will only be produced if the demand is there, ie, if he shows a certain figure as a club figure and not enough club members want it, it will not be produced.

Ok, keep the speculation coming....................

 

[PolarBear]

Ok, more clarification on the club series; John is hopeful that he will be able to release an addition to the club series every 3 months.

The issue is a 30 preview followed by a 30 day window for dealers to put in orders followed by the figure/set goes into production, so it will be tight for 4 releases per year, we'll just have to see how it goes.

So your assumption about there being one club figure annually is incorrect.

Also, it's not feasible for John to do an annual club figure to represent each of the 4 ranges he currently sells as it's already been pointed out that club figures will only be produced if the demand is there, ie, if he shows a certain figure as a club figure and not enough club members want it, it will not be produced.
As I understand it there is an annual membership figure you need to buy and that entitles you to buy Collectors Series sets. But there is only 1 membership figure each year and it could be from any of John's lines?


Ok, keep the speculation coming....................

Hi George

But don't you have to buy the 1st in the series (i.e. Lt Jenkins for 2009) each year to be a member or can you buy anyone that is issued? I thought you could not buy the later issues each year unless you were already a club member?
There is only 1 membership figure/year--you need to buy that one to be a member (no matter whether you collect that line or not) and then you can buy the Collectors Series sets issued that year.

 

[Warrior]

Hi George

But don't you have to buy the 1st in the series (i.e. Lt Jenkins for 2009) each year to be a member or can you buy anyone that is issued? I thought you could not buy the later issues each year unless you were already a club member?
Confused in New England

The way I understand it is once you purchase Lt Jenkins, you are officially a club member, didn't get the impression you had to "renew" your membership every year, unless I missed something too.

You have to buy the first figure to be eligible to buy any future releases, so you are correct in that it is a requirement to buy the first figure............

 

[PolarBear]

The way I understand it is once you purchase Lt Jenkins, you are officially a club member, didn't get the impression you had to "renew" your membership every year, unless I missed something too.

You have to buy the first figure to be eligible to buy any future releases, so you are correct in that it is a requirement to buy the first figure............

Thanks George
We appreciate your patience with us (For your sake thank God we're not dealing with shirtless Aussie figures). According to John's site it does look like you have to buy a new member figure each year:

The membership for this figure will be valid until AUGUST 31st 2010.
　
LT. JENKINS of THE PROVINCIALS us$30