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Andy and Helen’s Trip to Ausralia

Hi guys,
Time for me to provide some information about Andy and Helen’s visit and drop a few hints as to what he said about forthcoming releases and over time include many photos.

A&H arrived on the Thursday and came to the shop where my wife, Gerelou, was “holding the fort” .My wife surprised me by knowing Gordon’s wife Sue from the late 1980’s. In those days King and Country was located in Wyndham Street in Central, Hong Kong. Gerelou worked next door in a furniture shop called Anabelles. She is from the Phillipines as is Sue and naturally they got along. That was K&C’s first shop before moving to Pacific Place.

After a visit to the shop we took A&H to the city centre for a quick look at the statues in ANZAC Square and then up to Mount Cootha for the view over the city. Then it was off to Hog’s Breath for a dinner and then the Hotel.

On the Friday I put them to work in the shop unpacking my latest shipment of K&C and re-arranging my displays. Andy re-did the WWI diorama (on Simmo’s custom base) and a dio of WWII US V German forces again on a Simmo base. We moved the Berghof to a new location.

I have a personal collection of leaders on display including retired ones (if anybody has a spare Kuribashi I am still looking for one). When I looked at it later in the day I was horrified to see Andy had helped himself from there when re-arranging my displays ! I had to rescue the retired guys from the various displays before my eagle eyed customers started trying to buy them.

We were ably assisted by Kiwi and Howard. Kiwi re-did my Napoleonic display and it was a vast improvement upon my previous efforts. There will be photos of the displays (I was even thinking to Ebay the whole Andy dio with photo – just joking Andy !!!).

The first customer to come in when Andy was here was the Scottish wife of a ex British army guy now in the Australian Army. She was picking up 2 EA bagpipers for her husband who had been away on a big exercise up north. So he was the lucky one to get the first boxes personalised by Andy.

Throughout the day more collectors came in to meet A&H and I think he would have been talking non-stop from about 1 - 8pm. He met a good variety of collectors and some Treefroggers and some non-toy soldiers collectors who happened to come in.. I am happy to report Andy survived meeting Simmo and they got on very well (as I knew they would !). Whilst Andy may not be able to meet everybody’s wish lists he is happy to know they are interested. He had a good chat to all who came in. Helen had a good chat to a regular, Jeanette, who collects SOHK and has made 13 trips to Hong Kong !!! This was followed by a small group of us having a Chinese dinner near the shop.

On the Saturday we went to History Alive, a re-enactment show that features Romans, Medieval, Napoleonics, WWI and WWII and Vietnam.
Unfortunately the number of re-enactors were down due to a major Army exercise and other clashing events. The 1/1 scale German halftrack owned by one of my collectors was not present due to real war games with US forces going on and the owner being involved in those. The Light Horse were at another event with most of the Civil War guys.

The location was Fort Lytton which was built after the Crimean War (1854) when Australia thought the Russians were coming. It has disappearing guns and protected the river. See images at http://members.iinet.net.au/~cryanaj/fort/tour.html

Throughout the day we met various groups. One was the WWII Italian re-enactors and all I can say is that Andy showed them something that made them happy. We got some good photos with various groups and vehicles etc. which will be posted. Met up with OzDigger at the show.

After the show we went back to the shop for a last minute panic whilst I got final bits ready for the dinner. Dinner was a sit down three course meal at the Returned Services League club about 200m from the shop.
We had 30 at the dinner including 6 wives who also seemed to enjoy themselves (or are good at pretending !). Dinner was followed by an introduction by myself followed by an informative talk by Andy.

Andy covered his background in Scotland, the Royal Marines, short time in the Royal Hong Kong Police and defection to the Civil Service (for which he tripled his pay ! – incidentally he reminded me that in those days an Inspectors starting pay was about HK$2,400 or about US$310). He then mentioned his pubs (Mad Dogs and Joe Bananas) and the start of K&C with due credit to Laura his first wife for the idea. He said the series which had the most influence in getting his brand known was the original Arnhem series.

His story about his first US show was interesting. He and Laura set up at Chicago (I did not make a note of the year but I think this would be the year before Arnhem series). He mentioned in those days they could not accept credit card or cheques and at the end of the day their pockets were full of cash. However during the show he noticed that there was massive interest at another traders tables and went over to look. It was Frontline with a great display of Charge of the Light Brigade with assorted cavalry, artillery and infantry. Andy said he was impressed (and depressed !) at how well they had done the series and that night was already thinking how he could make a similar impact. That was when the Arnhem and matt paint idea was born.

The talk was well received and there were plenty of questions. This was followed by all attendees receiving a K&C denim shirt, a showbag of goodies from me (a Diecast Titanic produced by me, two Dragon 1/72 tanks and some coasters) and copies of sketches drawn by Andy. For those interested the sketches were of the Aussie officer from EA03, a US Army Sgt that looks like Bogart, Galland and Molders and three Napoleonic figures.

For those who want detail he ate the steak and the pavlova but I forget which soup ! (It should also be noted that at breakfast he did eat Vegemite !)

There were again plenty of photos taken which will be uploaded here once sorted from different cameras (Oz or Simmo please note I need some help as not quite worked out photobucket).

The following morning we visited a small military museum in Brisbane before fling off to Canberra. Cold and raining when we arrived. We stayed at the Olims Hotel 5 minutes walk from the War Memorial.

(more to come in next post in about half an hour).
Regards
Brett
 
Some reenactment pics from Fort Lytton on the Brisbane River.

Some pesky French attacking the English guns:
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English gunners - not bothered
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The English commander (who said he would be happy to send our Ron an 8" x 10" photo for his dart board :) )
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Arnhem (sort of).

Polish Paras - ready to move out - after they've had a cuppa with their Brit friends.
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Some Aussies - showing those Paras the way to Arnhem.
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Several bored Germans - saying it was time those Paras showed up as it was past breakfast time.
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German Military Police - about to set off to check why the Arnhem reenactment is behind schedule.
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Continued

After checking into the hotel and meeting up in Andy’s room we heard a knock on the door and it was OzDigger who had decided to fly down at the last minute. We went out for dinner at an Irish pub (minor detail - Andy drinking Bulmer’s cider). For those who do decide to visit Canberra the city centre was like a ghost town in the evening. The next day was spent mainly at the Australian War Memorial (AWM) which is the main military museum in Australia and a must visit place if you are planning a trip to Australia (less than an hour by plane from Sydney).

The AWM starts at WWI and they have an original boat from the Gallipoli landings. Great artworks and displays throughout the museum and I took a good cross section of images. One of the highlights was the WWI aircraft area. Peter Jackson of the Lord of the Rings fame has directed a spectacular short film about Australian pilots in WWI. It starts of in B/W and then goes into colour and ends up with multiple aircraft in a dog fight. Andy and myself thought it was the best aerial combat footage we had ever seen. Our first question was could it be bought on DVD but unfortunately not. Looks good for when Jackson does The Dambusters.

Other highlights were the re-enactment footage of Long Tan (Vietnam battle) and live audio of a Vietnam Dustoff that went down. The G-George WWII bomber audio-visual was not the normal version due to technical problems. Plenty of photos with G_George and Helen got a shot with a ME163. The dioramas in the AWM would have to be amongst the best in the world. We also saw the Hall of Valour where the great majority of Australian VC’s are displayed.

After the AWM visit we then had a curry dinner with some collectors from Canberra and Andy had a good talk with guys who had not previously met him. The next day we went to the Annex of the AWM where a lot of vehicles, aircraft and artillery are kept. Again some good photos taken.

After the Annex it was back to the AWM shop for some last minute book and souvenir buying and then it was off to the Airport to head off in different directions.

Throughout the visit Andy mentioned various points that may be of interest and I mention them in no particular order. As you no doubt are aware it is now a very competitive industry. Andy mentioned other producers beating him to release a particular subject and in some cases him bringing out something before others did. For this reason I will not mention all the specifics I heard.

It was very apparent that Andy is very conscious of cost and he frequently mentioned keeping certain types of items below certain price points. He mentioned a certain boat that has been speculated upon before and his planned pricing for that was below my expectation (think Harley riding actor).

At the peak of when K&C was also producing figures for Del Prado they had 2,000 painters working. He mentioned they had to produce 500,000 in three weeks at one point. Now it is about 1,000 painters. He has 6 full time sculptors.

Normally about 6 months from time of conception to production. Quickest ever release was the modern Iraq / Afghanistan range which was created and available in 2 months.

The Light Horse series could expand to 20 mounted figures over time with Turkish infantry etc. (the collectors who saw the prototypes were very impressed and can’t wait for them to be produced).

Aviation fans have a lot of look forward to.

There will be a Priest.

Some very highly regarded leaders (and some not so highly regarded) will be re-born.

Andy has something special planned for Chicago (but that is probably to be expected).

WWII Italian fans ……………………….not much longer now !

Medieval ……………..saw the images. You will be happy.

He particularly mentioned more diorama items and the middle east village will have 6 pieces and K&C will be doing their own palm trees. Andy said the buildings will be versatile so can display them from different angles.

Andy did buy an Osprey Campaign Book from me and all I can say is it was of a subject not currently covered by K&C. Could have been just for the plane or who knows, a series for the future ?!

Andy bought some replica medals from us that will be used to illustrate future flyers (however that did not include the Zuku War medal !!). We are making a replica set of his own medal set which for those interested is the General Service Medal (1962) with Northern Ireland clasp, the Efficiency Decoration (for his time in the Hong Kong Regiment) and the UN Medal for Cyprus.

Overall the Brisbane and Canberra part of his trip was a great success with many commenting upon how down to earth and approachable Andy was. Those that met him were happy to put a face and voice to go with the brand. To quote a Scottish collector he met (Bruce, whose mother was from Glasgow) “Andy was great and very Glasgow, good to see us doing well "globally as opposed to 'gorbally'.

I met a few collectors I had not seen before and had not been to the AWM for 4 years and that combined with Andy and Helen’s visit made it a great 5 days. Sad it is over.

Thanks Andy and Helen for a great trip and all the time you took to talk to all the collectors you met (especially Shaun the 7 year old who likes your "soldier men").

Working on the photos !

Note to Wayne : It was a sketch of three Napoleonic figures not actually 3 figures !!!

Regards to all
Brett
 
Thanks for the report Brett,glad you had a great time.Do you know if the Priest will be for Normandy or North Africa?

Cheers

Rob
 
No trick Brett,thanks very much.:)

Rob
 
So we have competing Priests, very interesting. May need to think twice about the Figarti Priest. Will have to see which one is better but I'm not getting both.
 
So we have competing Priests, very interesting. May need to think twice about the Figarti Priest. Will have to see which one is better but I'm not getting both.

Now there's an assumption. K&C could be releasing an 8th Army Chaplin ;)
 
So we have competing Priests, very interesting. May need to think twice about the Figarti Priest. Will have to see which one is better but I'm not getting both.

:D i am!!

Seriously,this is because the Priest is one of my faves and compared to others less covered by producers,i have two Grants so i'll push the boat out and have two Priests.I do love the style of both companies.

Rob
 
Continued

After checking into the hotel and meeting up in Andy’s room we heard a knock on the door and it was OzDigger who had decided to fly down at the last minute. We went out for dinner at an Irish pub (minor detail - Andy drinking Bulmer’s cider). For those who do decide to visit Canberra the city centre was like a ghost town in the evening. The next day was spent mainly at the Australian War Memorial (AWM) which is the main military museum in Australia and a must visit place if you are planning a trip to Australia (less than an hour by plane from Sydney).

The AWM starts at WWI and they have an original boat from the Gallipoli landings. Great artworks and displays throughout the museum and I took a good cross section of images. One of the highlights was the WWI aircraft area. Peter Jackson of the Lord of the Rings fame has directed a spectacular short film about Australian pilots in WWI. It starts of in B/W and then goes into colour and ends up with multiple aircraft in a dog fight. Andy and myself thought it was the best aerial combat footage we had ever seen. Our first question was could it be bought on DVD but unfortunately not. Looks good for when Jackson does The Dambusters.

Other highlights were the re-enactment footage of Long Tan (Vietnam battle) and live audio of a Vietnam Dustoff that went down. The G-George WWII bomber audio-visual was not the normal version due to technical problems. Plenty of photos with G_George and Helen got a shot with a ME163. The dioramas in the AWM would have to be amongst the best in the world. We also saw the Hall of Valour where the great majority of Australian VC’s are displayed.

After the AWM visit we then had a curry dinner with some collectors from Canberra and Andy had a good talk with guys who had not previously met him. The next day we went to the Annex of the AWM where a lot of vehicles, aircraft and artillery are kept. Again some good photos taken.

After the Annex it was back to the AWM shop for some last minute book and souvenir buying and then it was off to the Airport to head off in different directions.

Throughout the visit Andy mentioned various points that may be of interest and I mention them in no particular order. As you no doubt are aware it is now a very competitive industry. Andy mentioned other producers beating him to release a particular subject and in some cases him bringing out something before others did. For this reason I will not mention all the specifics I heard.

It was very apparent that Andy is very conscious of cost and he frequently mentioned keeping certain types of items below certain price points. He mentioned a certain boat that has been speculated upon before and his planned pricing for that was below my expectation (think Harley riding actor).

At the peak of when K&C was also producing figures for Del Prado they had 2,000 painters working. He mentioned they had to produce 500,000 in three weeks at one point. Now it is about 1,000 painters. He has 6 full time sculptors.

Normally about 6 months from time of conception to production. Quickest ever release was the modern Iraq / Afghanistan range which was created and available in 2 months.

The Light Horse series could expand to 20 mounted figures over time with Turkish infantry etc. (the collectors who saw the prototypes were very impressed and can’t wait for them to be produced).

Aviation fans have a lot of look forward to.

There will be a Priest.

Some very highly regarded leaders (and some not so highly regarded) will be re-born.

Andy has something special planned for Chicago (but that is probably to be expected).

WWII Italian fans ……………………….not much longer now !

Medieval ……………..saw the images. You will be happy.

He particularly mentioned more diorama items and the middle east village will have 6 pieces and K&C will be doing their own palm trees. Andy said the buildings will be versatile so can display them from different angles.

Andy did buy an Osprey Campaign Book from me and all I can say is it was of a subject not currently covered by K&C. Could have been just for the plane or who knows, a series for the future ?!

Andy bought some replica medals from us that will be used to illustrate future flyers (however that did not include the Zuku War medal !!). We are making a replica set of his own medal set which for those interested is the General Service Medal (1962) with Northern Ireland clasp, the Efficiency Decoration (for his time in the Hong Kong Regiment) and the UN Medal for Cyprus.

Overall the Brisbane and Canberra part of his trip was a great success with many commenting upon how down to earth and approachable Andy was. Those that met him were happy to put a face and voice to go with the brand. To quote a Scottish collector he met (Bruce, whose mother was from Glasgow) “Andy was great and very Glasgow, good to see us doing well "globally as opposed to 'gorbally'.

I met a few collectors I had not seen before and had not been to the AWM for 4 years and that combined with Andy and Helen’s visit made it a great 5 days. Sad it is over.

Thanks Andy and Helen for a great trip and all the time you took to talk to all the collectors you met (especially Shaun the 7 year old who likes your "soldier men").

Working on the photos !

Note to Wayne : It was a sketch of three Napoleonic figures not actually 3 figures !!!

Regards to all
Brett

Andy is actually from Renfrew, which is near Paisley, where I live, on the outskirts of Glasgow!:)
Near the airport!:D
 
:D i am!!

Seriously,this is because the Priest is one of my faves and compared to others less covered by producers,i have two Grants so i'll push the boat out and have two Priests.I do love the style of both companies.

Rob

Well, it's great if you can afford that but although it might to be nice to have two, I'd rather one of those and something else. To each of his own I suppose.
 
Well, it's great if you can afford that but although it might to be nice to have two, I'd rather one of those and something else. To each of his own I suppose.

Timing is everything. If new releases slow down, it may be possible to backtrack and get a second one of something. Harder to do if new pieces keep showing up at a fast pace.

Terry
 
Well, it's great if you can afford that but although it might to be nice to have two, I'd rather one of those and something else. To each of his own I suppose.


Yep i would have to miss out on something else,but thats the joy/challenge with this hobby,choices choices choices!:)

Rob
 
Wraith,
Close, but not quite there !
Brad, I think you will be able to afford both as we are talking very different kinds of items.
Regards
Brett
 

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