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RedBaron said:
Pete,

Great link! The Germans sure has a lot of different schemes.
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Lots of great color profiles. The triplane schemes are endless. I also noticed that of the 59 German Fokker D-7 profiles, only 1 appeared not to have lozenge camo fabric on some part of the aircraft, which means the lozenge camo problem has to be solved before we are likely to see any more accurately colored D-7's.:wink2: -- Al
 
lancer said:
Lots of great color profiles. The triplane schemes are endless. I also noticed that of the 59 German Fokker D-7 profiles, only 1 appeared not to have lozenge camo fabric on some part of the aircraft, which means the lozenge camo problem has to be solved before we are likely to see any more accurately colored D-7's.:wink2: -- Al
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Would love to see some camo patterns on some planes especially the D-7.

On side note will you be reserving the TG Rumpler?
 
lancer said:
Unfortunately, no. It is WAY out of my price range. :( -- Al
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I'm glad that there will be a "do-over" on this one, as I'd like to see a lot more of the model, and another livery, before considering a purchase. It's the model airplane collector in me, I suppose.:)
 
Information regarding German cross markings on aircraft in WW1:
I have alluded to the changes in German markings on this forum before. The question came up in regards to the excellent Lothar von Richthofen triplane that JJD has done. Initially, JJD had incorrect crosses on it, but the error was identified and corrected by JJD prior to full-scale release. Part of the reason for the initial error is that the cross markings on German aircraft went through at least 8 identifiable stages during the war. Enough to make tying a specific plane to a specific date in time something of a challenge.
Stage 1: dated 6/13/13 to 9/28/14 - German aircraft were to carry a full-chord (front-edge to rear-edge) black stripe on the wings. Commonly
applied to the bottom of the lower wing only.
Stage 2: dated 9/28/14 to 7/25/16 - Maltese style cross specified. No specific formula for size or design. Results in varied appearence and
locations on wings, fuselages, and tails.
Stage 3: dated 7/25/16 to 10/29/16 - Maltese cross to be located on white square.
Stage 4: dated 10/29/16 to 3/17/18 - White square reduced so that Maltese cross has thin white outline.
Stage 5: dated 3/17/18 to 4/10/18 - Maltese cross replaced by straight-edged Greek cross style. No specific dimensions specified results in
many different field conversions, often resulting in a 'fat' appearence to the cross.
Stage 6: dated 4/10/18 to 5/15/18 - Crosses are specified with a 150mm wide white outline, all around. Cross size specified to standardize
appearence. Wide white outline results in rudders being painted completely white in many cases and the
cross and outine being (or appearing to be) of equal width.
Stage 7: dated May 1918 to 6/25/18 - Thinner crosses specified along with thinner outline. No outline on cross ends. Size specs for crosses
result in vertical arm of cross being full-chord on wings and fuselages. Gives an odd, unbalanced look to
crosses.
Stage 8: 6/25/18 to end of war - Cross dimensions changed so vertical arm and horozontal arm are equal length. Thin outline remains, as does
the lack of outline on cross ends.
German markings also changed in location on the wings, especially during 1918, resulting in crosses that could be located all the way out to the wing tips. Obviously, German ground crews had other things to do, as well as updating crosses, so not all aircraft were in 'correct' markings at any given time, resulting in a confusing mix of markings, even within the same units. It can be a confusing and frustrating subject for a modeller/manufacturer. -- Al
 
A note on French national markings on their WW1 aircraft: The French adopted the tri-color cockades in 1912. The markings were full chord on the upper surface of the upper wing and the lower surface of the lower wing. Fuselage cockades were not specified and were rarely carried. The cockades were of a 1-2-3 proportion, from inside out. The cockades were colored, from inside to out, blue, white, red. Rudder stripes were of equal width, and colored blue, white, red, from the leading to trailing edge. In the case of the Nieuport aircraft of sesqui-wing design, the small lower wing cockades were often supplemented by full chord cockades placed on the outer edges of the lower side of the upper wing. It is also notable that this simple and effective method of markings was adopted, with some variation, by almost every other Allied nation. -- Al
 
lancer said:
A note on French national markings on their WW1 aircraft: The French adopted the tri-color cockades in 1912. The markings were full chord on the upper surface of the upper wing and the lower surface of the lower wing. Fuselage cockades were not specified and were rarely carried. The cockades were of a 1-2-3 proportion, from inside out. The cockades were colored, from inside to out, blue, white, red. Rudder stripes were of equal width, and colored blue, white, red, from the leading to trailing edge. In the case of the Nieuport aircraft of sesqui-wing design, the small lower wing cockades were often supplemented by full chord cockades placed on the outer edges of the lower side of the upper wing. It is also notable that this simple and effective method of markings was adopted, with some variation, by almost every other Allied nation. -- Al
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While doing some research on the French Air Service, I noticed a rather gruesome statistic. Checking the list of the top 100 French aces, I saw that 23 were killed in action or died of wounds and another 3 died in wartime flying accidents. This is a pretty high percentage, but the real shocker for me was the number who survived the war just to die in accidents. No fewer than 17 died post-war in flying accidents, plus one, Marcel Nogues, who was killed playing rugby. That totals 44 of the top 100 who met untimely ends. There were several more with no listed cause of death. Most of those killed in post-war flying accidents died in the 1920's. For whatever reason, whether wartime or peacetime, being a French pilot was dangerous to the extreme. Knowing the state of flying in the 1920's, it wouldn't surprise me if this sort of death rate was consistent across all nations with air fleets. -- Al
 
Getting anxious for the Spad. Hoping it will be in the next releases.^&grin -- Al
 
lancer said:
Getting anxious for the Spad. Hoping it will be in the next releases.^&grin -- Al
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I say this with every new release, but the SPAD looks like John's best yet. It is truly a piece of art. My only concern now is where to put it. Space is running out and I don't like that crowded look for something as nice as this one. I emptied an entire shelf for the BM-01 master set, but they may get some company soon.
 
These are my first Jenkins pieces and I think I just might have found my new favorite manufacturer!


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zblang said:
These are my first Jenkins pieces and I think I just might have found my new favorite manufacturer!


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Welcome to the JJD club and the WW1 aircraft addicts club in particular.^&grin I see you have chosen the excellent Barker Camel. Nice choice and nice picture/set-up. -- Al
 
lancer said:
Welcome to the JJD club and the WW1 aircraft addicts club in particular.^&grin I see you have chosen the excellent Barker Camel. Nice choice and nice picture/set-up. -- Al
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They are great, aren't they!
 
Any eagle eyes identify the next aircraft to join Jack's air force and be serviced by Jenkins groundcrew?

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Going by the tailplane I would say it's a Pfalz Jack.

Cheers, Roy.
 
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