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IMO the latest releases of all manufacturers of been kind of lame.. Anyone else on the forum share that view?
 
daruss said:
IMO the latest releases of all manufacturers of been kind of lame.. Anyone else on the forum share that view?
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Could you be more specific? Maybe mentioning what you collect would be helpful?

Regards.
 
Hi Daruss,

Much like Scott mentioned, your post seems quite broad in nature. I am assuming, since you placed your post in the Matte section, you are really referencing the manufacturers of matte finished figures. And, while I can agree that some of the new releases may leave something to be desired, I must disagree that all the new releases are lame. For example, I am very pleased with the new K&C line of the World of Dickens. I find the subject matter to be intensely interesting and the figures compliment my interest. Further, I am a great fan of glossy figures and the newest releases by Beau Geste are almost perfect in my eyes.

After reading your comment, I am left wondering if you really mean the figures produced in lines you most enjoy are lame. If so, then I would be interested in more information regarding the figures/lines/manufacturers you are referencing. If I had more specific information, I would be in a better position to determine if I agree with you.

Come what may, I look forward to further discussion with you and others. Thanks for starting this thread.

Warmest personal regards,

Pat
 
Daruss is a WW II collector so I assume he's referring to the WW II items that the several manufacturers have recently announced.
 
that's still pretty general...I'm curious exactly who and exactly what is lame?
 
I couldn't disagree more. Although some eras seem to have the same figures or vehicles re-released (e.g. Napoleon or a Tiger tank), we have to remember that there are always new collectors coming into the hobby who would like to buy these items to start their collection. In terms of what's available, I don't think there has ever been more variety. In terms of the Second World War, besides covering North Africa, D-Day, and the subsequent battles to liberate Europe, figures, vehicles, and aircraft for the Pacific Theatre and the Russian Front are also being created. Coverage of the First World War has exploded in just a few years. This is just a general overview of what I’m seeing, so I'm interested to know what specifically you find lame.
Cheers,
Brendan
 
daruss said:
IMO the latest releases of all manufacturers of been kind of lame.. Anyone else on the forum share that view?
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1 Throwing of Hand Grenades

Employment of hand grenades and various throwing positions outlined in FM 3-23.30

Since few Soldiers throw in the same manner, it is difficult to establish firm rules or techniques for throwing hand grenades. How accurately they are thrown is more important than how they are thrown. If a soldier can achieve more distance and accuracy using his own personal style, he should be allowed to do so as long as his body is facing sideways, towards the enemy's position, and he throws basically overhand. There is, however, a recommended method of throwing hand grenades.

Employ Grenades. Use the following procedures:
Observe the target to mentally establish the distance between the throwing position and the target area. In observing the target, minimize exposure time to the enemy (no more than 3 seconds).
Grip the hand grenade in the throwing hand.
Grasp the pull ring with the index or middle finger of the nonthrowing hand. Remove the safety pin with a pulling and twisting motion. If the tactical situation permits, observe the safety pin's removal.
Look at the target and throw the grenade using the overhand method so that the grenade arcs, landing on or near the target.
Allow the motion of the throwing arm to continue naturally once the grenade is released. This follow-through improves distance and accuracy and lessens the strain on the throwing arm.
Practice the necessary throws that are used in combat, such as the underhand and sidearm throws. Soldiers can practice these throws with practice grenades, but they must throw live fragmentation grenades overhand in a training environment.
Throwing Positions. In training, throwing positions are used for uniformity and control, and to familiarize Soldiers with the proper manner of throwing grenades in combat if the situation allows a choice. Consider the following throwing positions when employing grenades:
Standing. The standing position is the most desirable and natural position from which to throw grenades. It allows the Soldier to obtain the greatest possible throwing distance. Soldiers normally use this position when occupying a fighting position or during operations in fortified positions or urban terrain. Use the following procedures when throwing from this position:
Observe the target to mentally estimate the range. Use the proper handgrip, and arm the grenade while behind cover.
Assume a natural stance with the weight balanced equally on both feet. Hold the grenade shoulder high and hold the nonthrowing hand at a 45-degree angle with the fingers and thumb extended, joined, and pointing toward the intended target.
Throw the grenade with a natural motion, using the procedures described in paragraph A.
Seek cover to avoid being hit by fragments or direct enemy fire. If no cover is available, drop to the prone position facing the direction of the grenade's detonation.



Standing Throwing Position

Prone-To-Standing. The prone-to-standing position allows the soldier to throw the grenade for a greater distance than the alternate prone but he is exposed more. It is important to minimize the exposure time and to have covering fire suppress the target and other enemy positions that can hit the thrower.

Lie down on the stomach with the body parallel to the grenade's intended line of flight. Hold the grenade at chest level.

Place the hands in a push-up position and stand up while holding the grenade in the throwing hand.

Assume a natural stance with the weight balanced equally on both feet. Hold the grenade shoulder high and hold the nonthrowing hand at a 45-degree angle with the fingers and thumb extended, joined, and pointing toward the intended target. Try to assume a good standing position-the throw will be longer and more accurate-but it is more important to quickly get up and prepare the grenade.

Throw the grenade with a natural motion.

After throwing the grenade, drop to the ground on the stomach and press flat against the ground.
 
As a Civil War Collector. I have seen lots of interesting releases from Britains and First Legion. Especially like the Camp scenes.
 
BHogan said:
we have to remember that there are always new collectors coming into the hobby who would like to buy these items to start their collection.
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Heyday for toy soldiers was decades ago. Appears increasingly to becoming a niche hobby. As manufacturers cut production quantities in response to lower demand.
 
As a WW1 collector (amongst other things), I can think of no better time to be collecting. Airplanes, tanks, armored cars, artillery, cavalry, and infantry are all being done in unprecedented types and nationalities. THIS is the golden age for WW1 collectors and I'm pleased as punch to be here to enjoy it. -- Al
 
Start up your own uber cool,cutting edge,never a lame release company then!!!!Bammm,problem solved!!!You're welcome!!!lol
 
It seems to me that Mr Daruss has tossed a broad statement into the pool in a hope of stirring up controversy. So far he has failed. Trooper
 
Charlie Brown said:
Heyday for toy soldiers was decades ago. Appears increasingly to becoming a niche hobby. As manufacturers cut production quantities in response to lower demand.
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Charlie,
If the heyday was "decades" ago then clearly TG, CS, FL and JJ missed it. In fact if it was that long ago you must be referring to the glossy period as matte really only started in late 90''s.

Whilst it is true production quantities may have been cut they have more than made up with with the incredible variety on offer from all brands.

Brett
 
Hi Guys,

I agree with most of you that the original post in this thread was...broad, sweeping and...totally without foundation!

The choice and variety available in this, admittedly, relatively small niche hobby is simply staggering.

Although in these difficult financial times quantities, in some cases, have been cut, the number of releases has not slackened for most of the well-known names.

Speaking on behalf of K&C let me give just one example...Our T34 tank...Five or six years back we might have released anywhere between five and eight hundred of just one (and only one) version of this great Russian tank. Instead over a couple of years we offered six versions to choose from and sold almost 2,000 in total. Thus it was good for us and gave the collector a multiple of choices to choose from.

There’s plenty of other examples I could give but overall I think most of the companies, K&C included, have gone out of our way to be flexible and provide lots of variety and plenty of choice.

Now if that’s lame...? Well, you see my point perhaps.

Best wishes and happy collecting!

Andy
 
Charlie Brown said:
Heyday for toy soldiers was decades ago. Appears increasingly to becoming a niche hobby. As manufacturers cut production quantities in response to lower demand.
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The Military Workshop said:
Charlie,
If the heyday was "decades" ago then clearly TG, CS, FL and JJ missed it. In fact if it was that long ago you must be referring to the glossy period as matte really only started in late 90''s.

Whilst it is true production quantities may have been cut they have more than made up with with the incredible variety on offer from all brands.

Brett
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I was going to reply to Charlie last night, but canceled; as I posted, my initial reaction of disagreement changed, on reflection, not to agreement, necessarily, but I can concede his point.

He is absolutely correct, regarding toy soldiers. The heyday of figures as toys for children is over, and we are indeed a niche hobby, collecting figures as collectors' items for adults.

Now, we are in a golden age of figures as collectors' items. But I do think that there is a limited population out there, that collect what we collect. We may just be maintain our numbers, roughly, picking up new collectors to replace the ones who die off. This occurred to me, too, while reading the thread asking John Jenkins to make some 1930 USN aircraft. Someone made a point that there is a demand for them, because he found Yellow Wings Decals online. That tells us that scale modelers like yellow wings subjects (I do--I have a whole stash of kits for them) but I reflected on the whole thread, wondering how many people out there want an F2A-1 from VF-2 or VF-3, as a ready-made collector's model, and are there enough for John to decide to produce one, recoup his costs and not have to charge an arm and a leg for each one. John, and Andy, and the other makers, must have rather specific numbers as estimates of the number of collectors out there, and the number of units that they have to sell, to make a profit on any new piece and cover the costs of producing that piece.

Anyway, I think Charlie's got a valid point.

Prost1
Brad
 
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