Lance Armstrong Interview with Oprah Winfrey (1 Viewer)

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Plenty being written about it in the papers in the lead up to the airing of the interview.

Going to be interesting viewing. Seems there are a lot of people lining up to sue him. Said to be worth $125m so worth their while to go after him.

Whilst there are many questions he will be asked for me the interesting aspect is him possibly naming others involved (which would be many). After all he sued and won against others who accused him in the past.

Brett
 
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Can't wait to see it Brett. His fall from the sport was a great shame as he'd been a true sporting icon to many, will be interesting to see what he has to say .

Rob
 
Far worse situation than with Tiger Woods which was basically his personal matters rather than the integrity of a whole sport over a long period.

Those who came second in the Tour De France (who were not cheating) will certainly be watching. Unfortunately I think there was a period where not cheating may have been rare.
 
Far worse situation than with Tiger Woods which was basically his personal matters rather than the integrity of a whole sport over a long period.

Those who came second in the Tour De France (who were not cheating) will certainly be watching. Unfortunately I think there was a period where not cheating may have been rare.

I did laugh when I heard that Lance Armstrong may come clean in order to 'regain his credibility'. I think that ship may well and truly have sailed. The fact that the 'clean' riders have not been prominent during the Tour De France in their condemnation of the people cheating them out of their place in history says it all. They were either involved, complicit or just too smart to risk riding in a group of cyclists doing high speeds along French roads having bad mouthed cheats on the TV the night before. My nephew rides for a team in Denmark (he is an Australian champion which in some way reflects well on me although I am not quite sure how yet!) and a good deal is made of ther fact that he is a 'clean' rider.

The smart money will be on tears in the Lance Armstrong interview. That said, give me a good old drug cheat rather than Oprah at any point.
 
It won't be something I watch but, will undoubtedly hear what the muppet says from a variety of news sources. No shame about it for me. what he did was wrong and, I would not have allowed him to perpetuate this myth that he is some kind of victim. A cheat pure and simple.
Mitch
 
Why would anyone give this total fraud and turkey any airtime but for money, 'Oprah' who watches that rubbish anyway......:mad:
Wayne.
 
I did laugh when I heard that Lance Armstrong may come clean in order to 'regain his credibility'. I think that ship may well and truly have sailed. The fact that the 'clean' riders have not been prominent during the Tour De France in their condemnation of the people cheating them out of their place in history says it all. They were either involved, complicit or just too smart to risk riding in a group of cyclists doing high speeds along French roads having bad mouthed cheats on the TV the night before. My nephew rides for a team in Denmark (he is an Australian champion which in some way reflects well on me although I am not quite sure how yet!) and a good deal is made of ther fact that he is a 'clean' rider.

The smart money will be on tears in the Lance Armstrong interview. That said, give me a good old drug cheat rather than Oprah at any point.

I think some did speak out but the "cheating" side of cycling was so dominant that they were cast aside as troublemakers or in a few cases sued for defamation etc. I think Armstrongs team just happened to be better cheaters than others. However notwithstanding the drugs he still had to be a good athlete. When you think about what the Tour De France involves it is hardly surprising the cyclists needed an "edge" to help them complete it never mind win it.

Reminds me of what they used to say about corruption in the Royal Hong Kong Police (it was so bad they had to grant an amnesty about 2 months before I joined in 1977). Saying was you either got on the bus or it ran you over. Many of those run over by Armstrong and his team will now be looking for pay back and he is going to be providing a lot of employment for lawyers in the next few years.
 
Brett...thanks for the heads up...I will watch this...

Mike,
I know Texans going to be more interested than most.

Even if you are not looking for it this story is going to be on every news broadcast and in every paper. I read the UK Times newspaper who he successfuly sued took out a full page ad in Chicago Tribune with 10 questions they want asked. Hard to see what the upside is for him other than to relieve the guilt/shame. In great danger of future legal action including multiple perjuries which is what will make it compelling viewing. No doubt he has got himself a good lawyer.

I think you did have a thread on him a few months ago (when he stepped down from Livestrong) but I could not find it to revive it.

Brett
 
How much is he getting for going on the show ??
He is a cheat and a lire and a looser and to be honest i don't really care hope he ends up with nothing.
 
Why would anyone give this total fraud and turkey any airtime but for money, 'Oprah' who watches that rubbish anyway......:mad:
Wayne.

Wayne,
It is the sheer magnitude of his fraud and "turkeyness" and possibly becuase it is the biggest sporting scandal in the USA since the Chicago White Sox baseball team in 1919 (any others ?). White Sox was an American series in one year but Tour De France a world event where he won several times. I cant think of any other sports scandal story that even comes close (Rob and Mitch may mention the "hand of god" by Maradona {sm4}).

The fact he succcesfully sued people including newspapers makes it more so. He was paid millions by a sponsor becuase he won and now the sponsor wants its money back etc etc.

Nominations for other sports scandals anybody ? Perhaps the Korea Olympics 100m final where the winner Canadian Ben Johnson tested positive ?

No idea if he is making any money out of it but I doubt it (anybody know ?).

No need to watch Oprah. Just keep an eye on this thread{sm4}.
Brett
 
Far worse situation than with Tiger Woods which was basically his personal matters rather than the integrity of a whole sport over a long period.

Those who came second in the Tour De France (who were not cheating) will certainly be watching. Unfortunately I think there was a period where not cheating may have been rare.

Now that you mention those coming second Brett, I thought I saw on the news a while back that those who did come second have not all been awarded first place? I could have sworn it said for some reason only one has been promoted to first place , I may be wrong on this of course.

Rob
 
Now that you mention those coming second Brett, I thought I saw on the news a while back that those who did come second have not all been awarded first place? I could have sworn it said for some reason only one has been promoted to first place , I may be wrong on this of course.

Rob

Rob,

Not sure what happens there but being elevated to 1st ten years after the event probably not that exciting. There was a particular British journalist who was onto him for over ten years and it might have been his story that got the Times sued. I think I read something by him recently that indicated most teams in 90's and early 2000's were using drugs. Were not going to win otherwise. Hard to think of a sport where endurance so important (triathlons would be the other obvious one).

However I looked up the prize money and in 2011 was as below. Considering how tough the race is, how long it goes for and team costs the prize money does not seem that great compared to tennis, golf etc. Armstrong obviously made much more from sponsors.


Stage victory

The 21 stages of the 2011 Tour de France are divided up as follows: 10 flat stages, 6 mountain stages and 4 summit finishes, 3 medium mountain stages, 1 individual time-trial stage (41 km), 1 team time-trial stage (23 km).
Prize money: € 8,000 to the winner of each stage (€ 475,000 in total).

The Yellow Jersey

It is worn by the leader of the general individual time classification.
Prize money: € 450,000 for the outright winner (€ 1,005,000 in total).

The Green Jersey

It is worn by the leader of the points classification. The points can be won on intermediate sprints and at stage finishes.
Prize money: € 25,000 for the outright winner (€ 128,000 in total).

The Red Polka Dot Jersey

It is worn by the best climber. Points for best climber classification are awarded at the top of any classified slope.
Prize money: € 25,000 for the outright winner (€ 104,700 in total).

The White Jersey

It is worn by the best young rider aged 25 years or less in the general individual time classification.
Prize money: € 20,000 for the outright winner (€ 66,500 in total).

Most aggressive rider

This distinction is awarded at the end of each stage by a jury made up of eight cycling specialists. An outright winner is designated after the last stage of the Tour.
Prize money: € 20,000 for the outright winner (€ 56,000 in total).

The team classification

This classification is determined by adding the times of the best three riders of each squad in each stage.
Prize money: € 50 000 € for the winning team (€ 176,000 in total).


Best climber classification: double points for the final climb

Since the 2004 edition of the Tour de France, the competition for the Red Polka Dot Jersey includes a detail that adds a certain amount of spice to the race: for the final climb on a stage's profile, the points are doubled for Category 1, Category 2 and Top Category climbs. So the riders who lead this classification are undoubtedly the most courageous ones and the prize goes to those who remain out in front in this classification for the longest period of time.


Brett
 
Interesting stuff Brett, and you are quite right, taking into consideration the endurance needed the pay cheque is a bit low.

I don't think Armstrong can win now, if he were to deny taking drugs everyone would have a go at him again and if he were to admit to it they would all yell ' told you so' ! Might have been best staying out of the limelight.

Rob

Rob,

Not sure what happens there but being elevated to 1st ten years after the event probably not that exciting. There was a particular British journalist who was onto him for over ten years and it might have been his story that got the Times sued. I think I read something by him recently that indicated most teams in 90's and early 2000's were using drugs. Were not going to win otherwise. Hard to think of a sport where endurance so important (triathlons would be the other obvious one).

However I looked up the prize money and in 2011 was as below. Considering how tough the race is, how long it goes for and team costs the prize money does not seem that great compared to tennis, golf etc. Armstrong obviously made much more from sponsors.


Stage victory

The 21 stages of the 2011 Tour de France are divided up as follows: 10 flat stages, 6 mountain stages and 4 summit finishes, 3 medium mountain stages, 1 individual time-trial stage (41 km), 1 team time-trial stage (23 km).
Prize money: € 8,000 to the winner of each stage (€ 475,000 in total).

The Yellow Jersey

It is worn by the leader of the general individual time classification.
Prize money: € 450,000 for the outright winner (€ 1,005,000 in total).

The Green Jersey

It is worn by the leader of the points classification. The points can be won on intermediate sprints and at stage finishes.
Prize money: € 25,000 for the outright winner (€ 128,000 in total).

The Red Polka Dot Jersey

It is worn by the best climber. Points for best climber classification are awarded at the top of any classified slope.
Prize money: € 25,000 for the outright winner (€ 104,700 in total).

The White Jersey

It is worn by the best young rider aged 25 years or less in the general individual time classification.
Prize money: € 20,000 for the outright winner (€ 66,500 in total).

Most aggressive rider

This distinction is awarded at the end of each stage by a jury made up of eight cycling specialists. An outright winner is designated after the last stage of the Tour.
Prize money: € 20,000 for the outright winner (€ 56,000 in total).

The team classification

This classification is determined by adding the times of the best three riders of each squad in each stage.
Prize money: € 50 000 € for the winning team (€ 176,000 in total).


Best climber classification: double points for the final climb

Since the 2004 edition of the Tour de France, the competition for the Red Polka Dot Jersey includes a detail that adds a certain amount of spice to the race: for the final climb on a stage's profile, the points are doubled for Category 1, Category 2 and Top Category climbs. So the riders who lead this classification are undoubtedly the most courageous ones and the prize goes to those who remain out in front in this classification for the longest period of time.


Brett
 
As a cyclist myself, he's dead to me.

His character is questionable, anyway, whether he doped or no.

Prost!
Brad
 
He's a slimball just trying to salvage anything at this point. His outright denials for years make it much too late to take him seriously. It simply makes it worse to "come clean" only after you have been convicted. I agree that the public should consider him dead. Force him to make a living like a normal human instead of as an uber celebrity living off his ill founded fame.
 
What's the bet after all the dust has settled that he still ends up on easy street! His lawyers will probably work out a deal with the sponsors and all the other people/organisations/institutions that are chasing him to recover the money and he probably will write a book on why he cheated and make lots of money from it. I agree that he should end up with bugger all as he has let a lot of people down including all the aspiring kiddies out there. I would hope that he is not getting paid to be on Oprah but no doubt he will be.

Tom
 

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