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I have learned so much from many of the forum members on their posts regarding historical accuracy. With no offense intended I have found one with this figure LOJ 029 The Scholar.

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He is reading a typical paper sheet bound book. These were not around for a few hundred more years. At this time Scrolls were mostly used, as well as for hundreds of more years. Other then the scroll, there were wax tablets or Diptychs and later polyptych formats were often hinged together along one edge, analogous to the spine of modern books, as well as a folding concertina format. Such a set of simple wooden boards sewn together was called by the Romans a codex.

No paper bound books in this area for quite along time yet.

My first contribution to the KC Council of Rivet Counters or the KCCRC.

Let me know if I am wrong.

Ludwig
 
Interesting pick up Ludwig. It never would have occurred to me. When you say that a paper sheet bound book would not be around for several hundred years are you referring to the Gutenberg bible process, as that did not take place until the mid 15th century.
 
Forgot to mention that I had never really looked at this figure before and aside from the slight glitch Ludwig noted it's very nicely done. K & C have captured him deeply in thought.
 
Good catch but you can use him for "Napoleon in Egypt" or WWII "North Africa campaigns".
 
jazzeum said:
Forgot to mention that I had never really looked at this figure before and aside from the slight glitch Ludwig noted it's very nicely done. K & C have captured him deeply in thought.
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Yes, absolutely agreed. The figure is nice...not knocking that. It just has an area that is not historically accurate.

For whatever it is worth I love the line. Thus far I have only the Nativity Set, but more will come over time.

Ludwig
 
there is a quite well known picture of a Tiger I passing by some locals and one is reading in quite a similar pose to this and, does not even seem bothered a Tiger is passing him by. Hopefully, K&C used the correct boustrophedan style of writing and punctuation!!!!!!!!
Mitch
 
nysoldiers said:
Good catch but you can use him for "Napoleon in Egypt" or WWII "North Africa campaigns".
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Good point. He will work there. Just not his namesake LOJ. Ludwig's rivet buster number 1.

Nice figure however.

Ludwig
 
Bayern said:
I have learned so much from many of the forum members on their posts regarding historical accuracy. With no offense intended I have found one with this figure LOJ 029 The Scholar.

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He is reading a typical paper sheet bound book. These were not around for a few hundred more years. At this time Scrolls were mostly used, as well as for hundreds of more years. Other then the scroll, there were wax tablets or Diptychs and later polyptych formats were often hinged together along one edge, analogous to the spine of modern books, as well as a folding concertina format. Such a set of simple wooden boards sewn together was called by the Romans a codex.

No paper bound books in this area for quite along time yet.

My first contribution to the KC Council of Rivet Counters or the KCCRC.

Let me know if I am wrong.

Ludwig
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Well seen ludwig...When I saw that figure I thought it was for " sons of the empire" or " napoleon in egypt"! And more than the book, the hat is indian or maybe arab, for sure not jewish!!!
 
Poppo said:
Well seen ludwig...When I saw that figure I thought it was for " sons of the empire" or " napoleon in egypt"! And more than the book, the hat is indian or maybe arab, for sure not jewish!!!
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Poppo, I agree on the turban with no ill intent. This figure could have been marked SOE and that would be it.

You are sharp my friend.

TO EVERYONE<

THERE IS NOT AN ATTACK UNDERWAY ON THE FINDING OF INACCURACIES. IT IS A HISTORICAL THING. It is a learning thing. No one is trying to belittle anyone. I have four more so far.

Ludwig
 
Hello everyone on Treefrog Forums

This my first post on this website, my friend Ludwig (Bayern) told me that I should come here to discuss one of my favorite topics, toy soldiers, with everyone.

With regards to LOJ029, The Scholar, I will say this: toy soldier hobby very expensive, and for the money that we as collectors pay, we should expect manufacturers to do their research with regards to figures they produce. This figure part of a series based around the time of Christ, yet he has book that would not have existed as presented for at least 400 years, and possibly longer than that in the area that he lived in (Scrolls were very popular in Middle East).

I love K&C product, I have been collecting it for over 5 years now, and most of their World War 2 products well researched, but I have noticed over last few years they have been making bad business decisions. No offense to those forum members from Britain, Australia, or Canada, but most toy soldier collectors live in America, and company like K&C cannot expect to remain in business if they continue to make twice as many British/Canadian/Australian figures as American. Americans sell in America. British don't. I have had several conversations with my dealer friends here in America and they tell me this.

Please forgive my English, it very difficult language for Russian to learn.

Vladimir Brezhnev, but my friends call me Vova
 
Welcome to the Forum.

I am always fascinated by the size of the hobby and where collectors live. You have access to the numbers, so how many collectors are there in the US and how does that compare to the numbers around the world? Worried about your reference to K&C going out of business, though, but hopefully Andy can hang on until the ALH come out.

Regards

Jack
 
Not sure how anyone knows where the most TS collectors are in the world, if one had to guess, it might where the bigger populations are. Also some collectors have very deep pockets, so numbers of collectors may not be a criteria. The scholar figure is great, the book will be transferred to my Imperial China series, paper around in those days. Never for one moment thought the Americans were outnumbered or ever will be. DDay, AWI, civil war, BOB the list is endless. Every other maker abounds in USA as well, so no shortage, but always nice to have a contrast even it's only Brit's or Ozzies. Cheers, Robin.
 
I did not mean to cause alarm. I'm sure K&C will be around for several more years at least. I just see them making bad decisions, and with unsteady economy, continuing to make bad decisions will be bad for their business.

As far as where collectors live, you should ask dealers like friendly guys at Kings X Toy Soldiers, or friendly folks at Treefrog Treasures. I just know what I hear from my dealer friends.
 
VladimirBrezhnev said:
I did not mean to cause alarm. I'm sure K&C will be around for several more years at least. I just see them making bad decisions, and with unsteady economy, continuing to make bad decisions will be bad for their business.

As far as where collectors live, you should ask dealers like friendly guys at Kings X Toy Soldiers, or friendly folks at Treefrog Treasures. I just know what I hear from my dealer friends.
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Thanks for the contacts, although I suppose they would only be able to tell me where their customers live which would not be a full cross section of collectors. Both are American dealers. I was hoping that you had numbers. Accuracy is vital, as you say.
 
VladimirBrezhnev said:
I did not mean to cause alarm. I'm sure K&C will be around for several more years at least. I just see them making bad decisions, and with unsteady economy, continuing to make bad decisions will be bad for their business.

As far as where collectors live, you should ask dealers like friendly guys at Kings X Toy Soldiers, or friendly folks at Treefrog Treasures. I just know what I hear from my dealer friends.
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When Andy says things like we can't keep with demand and I need a bigger wharehouse I think K&C business is doing just fine. And he has China right next door.
Wayne.
 
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