March 1, 2021 News Update - American Civil War (1 Viewer)

[Julie]

JJDESIGNS NEWS UPFATE 1[SUP]st[/SUP] MARCH 2021
THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR
THE FIRST BATTLE OF BULL RUN, 1861
THE UNION ARMY
THE 39[SUP]th[/SUP] NEW YORK VOLUNTEER INFANTRY REGIMENT

The 39[SUP]th[/SUP] New York Infantry Regiment, known as the “Garibaldi Guard” after the Italian revolutionary, Giuseppe Garibaldi, was an infantry regiment that served in the Union Army during the American Civil War.

This regiment was mustered in New York city by the Union Defense Committee, under the leadership of Col. Frederick George D’Utassy by special authority from the war department during the civil war of the United States.

The 39th, the "Garibaldi Guard," recruited in New York City, was composed of three Hungarian companies, three German, one Swiss, one Italian, one French, one Spanish and one Portuguese, most of whose members had already seen active service.
It was mustered into the U. S. service at New York, May 28, 1861, for three years and left the state for Washington, D.C. on the same day. Camp Grinnell was established near Alexandria, Va., and occupied until July 17, when the 39th participated in the movement of the army toward Manassas with the 1st brigade, 5th division, though in the battle of Bull Run the regiment was only slightly engaged.

Frederick George D’Utassy (November 26[SUP]th[/SUP] 1827 – May 5[SUP]th[/SUP] 1892) was an officer in the Union Army in the American Civil War who led the famous “Garibaldi Guard” or the 39[SUP]th[/SUP] New York Volunteer Infantry Regiment from 1861 to 1863.
The flamboyant Colonel was court-martialed in1863 for fraud and conduct prejudicial to military discipline.

In June, 1863, it became part of the 3d brigade, 3d division, 2nd corps, and moved to Gettysburg, where it fought valiantly in the front of the left center, with a loss of 95 killed and wounded, the brigade losing six field officers killed or seriously wounded.
Three battle flags were captured by the 39th, a Mass. battery was recaptured, and the regiment received official commendation for its valor.

The first of the Garibaldi Guard sets should be available from the second half of this year.


Dydd Gwyl Dewi Dda I Pawb!
Best wishes and many thanks

john jenkins

 

[egonzinc]

Very nice. Unique and colorful.
Will TRY to limit myself to "on the march" types... lets see how that goes! :smile2:

 

[Louis Badolato]

I have already put in orders for all of the 14th Brooklyn and all of the Garibaldi Guard as they come out. Thanks John!:salute::

 

[mestell]

Very nicely done and certainly another great example of how diverse and unique uniforms were in the opening days of the Civil War. Part of the first brigade (Blenker), of the fifth division (Miles), Army of Northeastern Virginia (McDowell), the 39th NY saw very little action at 1st Bull Run, all of which was north of Blackburn's Ford.

Mike

 

[Nathan.d.foley]

Can not wait to add to my Day 3 Gettysburg line!

 

[Lo1863]

Can not wait to add to my Day 3 Gettysburg line!

Would they still be wearing the same uniforms at Gettysburg as they wore at Manassas? I assumed they would be in the standard issued uniform by 1863, but I could be wrong. Just wondering...

 

[mestell]

Would they still be wearing the same uniforms at Gettysburg as they wore at Manassas? I assumed they would be in the standard issued uniform by 1863, but I could be wrong. Just wondering...

I can not say with certainty but I don't think so. Most units adopted/were issued the standard designated uniform as their original early issue wore out. Of course some units maintained their early look throughout the war like Zouaves units and units like the dreaded red legs (14th Brooklyn)

Here's a link that might shed some light on this: http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=315930

Mike

 

[Nathan.d.foley]

Would they still be wearing the same uniforms at Gettysburg as they wore at Manassas? I assumed they would be in the standard issued uniform by 1863, but I could be wrong. Just wondering...

Something to Research. I would assume the headgear was the same, but the New Yorkers had the fanciest uniforms.

 

[jason foote]

OMG, so great. I am getting all of these. I love that all of the latest ACW issues have advancing and firing figures. I hope John adds a few skirmishers to the Carolina zuoaves.... I would love that

 

[Terp152]

I can not say with certainty but I don't think so. Most units adopted/were issued the standard designated uniform as their original early issue wore out. Of course some units maintained their early look throughout the war like Zouaves units and units like the dreaded red legs (14th Brooklyn)

Here's a link that might shed some light on this: http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=315930

Mike

Thanks for the link Mike. I had previously read most units, including the Zouaves, were issued standard uniforms by the time of Gettysburg. There were a few exceptions as you mentioned. Same thing applied to most CSA units by that time. Chris

 

[Dragoon]

Thanks for the link Mike. I had previously read most units, including the Zouaves, were issued standard uniforms by the time of Gettysburg. There were a few exceptions as you mentioned. Same thing applied to most CSA units by that time. Chris

That's one of those myths that never seems to go away. The Army of the Potomac actually added Zouave regiments to the army in early 1863 by issuing that style uniform to some regiments with good fighting records. These uniforms were modeled after those worn by the 9th NY, Hawkins Zouaves.

 

[Terp152]

Saw this post: [FONT=&quot]There were ten Union Zouave regiments that participated in the Battle of Gettysburg: the 10th New York Infantry Regiment, the 41st New York Infantry Regiment, the 44th New York Infantry Regiment, the 73rd New York Infantry Regiment, the 146th New York Infantry Regiment, the 23rd Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, the 72nd Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, the 95th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, the 114th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, and the 155th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment (which did not become a Zouave regiment until 1864).[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Many of the regiments had discarded all or most of their colorful Zouave uniforms by the summer of 1863 for the standard Union uniform, but generally speaking, three regiments did appear in full Zouave or Zouave-inspired uniforms at the Battle of Gettysburg: the 84th New York Infantry Regiment (14th Brooklyn Infantry Regiment), the 146th New York Infantry Regiment, and the 114th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, while a few others wore a “mix” (like the 95th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, which had retained only the Zouave jacket). Of course, there were no doubt exceptions to the rule in each and every regiment.

Apparently the info for this came from NPS Park Ranger John Heiser. Chris[/FONT]

 

[Terp152]

Would they still be wearing the same uniforms at Gettysburg as they wore at Manassas? I assumed they would be in the standard issued uniform by 1863, but I could be wrong. Just wondering...

Harry Pfanz, former chief historian at Gettysburg NP, in his book Gettysburg The Second Day, after detailing the Garibaldi Guards uniform states on p66 "the Thirty-Ninth served without its colonel (ensconced in Sing Sing prison), its finery, and its vivandieres and consisted of a four-company battalion..." So I would say no, the Garibaldi uniform was not worn that day. There may be a more definitive statement somewhere. Author of three books about the battle, Pfanz was one of the leading authorities regarding that subject. Chris

 

[Dragoon]

Saw this post: There were ten Union Zouave regiments that participated in the Battle of Gettysburg: the 10th New York Infantry Regiment, the 41st New York Infantry Regiment, the 44th New York Infantry Regiment, the 73rd New York Infantry Regiment, the 146th New York Infantry Regiment, the 23rd Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, the 72nd Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, the 95th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, the 114th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, and the 155th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment (which did not become a Zouave regiment until 1864). Many of the regiments had discarded all or most of their colorful Zouave uniforms by the summer of 1863 for the standard Union uniform, but generally speaking, three regiments did appear in full Zouave or Zouave-inspired uniforms at the Battle of Gettysburg: the 84th New York Infantry Regiment (14th Brooklyn Infantry Regiment), the 146th New York Infantry Regiment, and the 114th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, while a few others wore a “mix” (like the 95th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, which had retained only the Zouave jacket). Of course, there were no doubt exceptions to the rule in each and every regiment.

Apparently the info for this came from NPS Park Ranger John Heiser. Chris

There you go, a prime example why the myth continues.

Countering that viewpoint, on page 63 of Don Troiani's book 'Regiments & Uniforms of the Civil War' states that, "In 1863, a second wave of Northern Zouaves was created in the Army of the Potomac, and new Zouave uniforms were fashioned for them. When the war ended in 1865, the triumphant Armies of the Republic paraded in Washington, D.C., there were more regiments in Zouave uniform than had been in the army in 1861.''

The V Corps of the AoP had a Zouave Brigade. To honor the mustering out of the 5th NY, Duryee Zouaves, some line regiments of that Corps with a good fighting record were awarded a uniform and title of Zouave. The 146th NY was the first of these regiments to receive the new uniform in June of '63, making them the only newly anointed Zouave regiment to receive that style uniform in time for the battle Gettysburg. - Ken

 

[Terp152]

John Heiser was a historian at Gettysburg NP since 1997, so I believe what he says regarding the battle.

"When the war ended in 1865, the triumphant Armies of the Republic paraded in Washington, D.C., there were more regiments in Zouave uniform than had been in the army in 1861.'' What is not stated is how many regt's were issued the Zouave uniform for the final AOP parade. That does not necessarily mean they wore those unique uniforms at Gettysburg. I'm not disagreeing that some regt's wore Zouave uniforms, just that most were wearing "common issue" blouses and trousers at that time. Chris

 

[Dragoon]

I fully agree, MOST Union regiments were probably wearing the four button blouse and sky blue trousers at Gettysburg. That still doesn't mean Zouave uniforms as well as frock coats, state issued shell jackets, Hardee hats, etc. were not continually distributed to regiments that desired them throughout the war.. Most regiments North and South probably presented a pretty shabby appearance in late June of 1863 due to the hard marching and length of campaign without time to refit before they all met at Gettysburg. - My main point when adding to this thread was that fully uniformed Zouave regiments did not disappear from the battlefield as the war went on as many people believe, but were present to the very end. - Ken

 

[Terp152]

I fully agree, MOST Union regiments were probably wearing the four button blouse and sky blue trousers at Gettysburg. That still doesn't mean Zouave uniforms as well as frock coats, state issued shell jackets, Hardee hats, etc. were not continually distributed to regiments that desired them throughout the war.. Most regiments North and South probably presented a pretty shabby appearance in late June of 1863 due to the hard marching and length of campaign without time to refit before they all met at Gettysburg. - My main point when adding to this thread was that fully uniformed Zouave regiments did not disappear from the battlefield as the war went on as many people believe, but were present to the very end. - Ken

Good points Ken and I find myself in agreement. Apparently there were several Zouave regts wearing distinctive uniforms at Gettysburg and later. Chris

 

[jason foote]

Saw this post: There were ten Union Zouave regiments that participated in the Battle of Gettysburg: the 10th New York Infantry Regiment, the 41st New York Infantry Regiment, the 44th New York Infantry Regiment, the 73rd New York Infantry Regiment, the 146th New York Infantry Regiment, the 23rd Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, the 72nd Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, the 95th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, the 114th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, and the 155th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment (which did not become a Zouave regiment until 1864). Many of the regiments had discarded all or most of their colorful Zouave uniforms by the summer of 1863 for the standard Union uniform, but generally speaking, three regiments did appear in full Zouave or Zouave-inspired uniforms at the Battle of Gettysburg: the 84th New York Infantry Regiment (14th Brooklyn Infantry Regiment), the 146th New York Infantry Regiment, and the 114th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, while a few others wore a “mix” (like the 95th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, which had retained only the Zouave jacket). Of course, there were no doubt exceptions to the rule in each and every regiment.

Apparently the info for this came from NPS Park Ranger John Heiser. Chris

I hope John makes them all.no would buy them all

 

[jason foote]

Thanks for the link Mike. I had previously read most units, including the Zouaves, were issued standard uniforms by the time of Gettysburg. There were a few exceptions as you mentioned. Same thing applied to most CSA units by that time. Chris

I would love some skirmishing figures for the NC Zuoaves

 

[mestell]

I would love some skirmishing figures for the NC Zuoaves

I believe you meant the South Carolina Zouaves Volunteers, who became Company H of Hampton's Legion Infantry Battalion. Keep in mind this unit was not at First Bull Run. At the time of the battle the SC Zouaves were quarantined in Columbia, SC from a measles outbreak. This unit didn't join up with Hampton's Legion until July 1862.
Mike