NAP0471-NAP0486 British 51st Light Infantry (3 Viewers)

[spartan71]

Scratching my head here. Its like relieving June.........

 

[Gebhard]

Gebs

If you think FL have nailed it again then you are entitled to that view.

But unfortunately the FL flag bearer's flag is NOT a Union Jack.

St. Patricks Cross - the red diagonal cross does not sit right in the middle of the white diagonal, it is to one side nor is there the black edging on the British Flag.

Look at the FL Scots 92nd Flag it is more accurate

This is the British Flag.

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Gazza

Hi Gazz,
I now see what your talking about, I thought you were talking about the regimental details of the standard I have never noticed the unequal space between the white and red diagonal sections of the flag. As a non Englishmen I hope you can forgive a colonial cousin with my lack of detailed knowledge of the flag, no need to throw the tea overboard.:wink2: regards Gebhard

 

[Vezzolf]

I appreciate the info provided by Gazza as he is absolutely correct:salute::....Sadly,It is not completely accurate...but..... still....for me.... These are beautiful Flag-Bearers for this British Nap Series.... and I will be purchasing these figures irregardless of this discrepency.....They simply look EXCELLENT{sm4}....Can't pass these up{sm4}

 

[spartan71]

I appreciate the info provided by Gazza as he is absolutely correct:salute::....Sadly,It is not completely accurate...but..... still....for me.... These are beautiful Flag-Bearers for this British Nap Series.... and I will be purchasing these figures irregardless of this discrepency.....They simply look EXCELLENT{sm4}....Can't pass these up{sm4}

Same, with me. Nothing has changed. I really like the British pieces. And for me to pass it up, I know I will regret it sooner or later.

 

[Gebhard]

Same, with me. Nothing has changed. I really like the British pieces. And for me to pass it up, I know I will regret it sooner or later.

It took me 5 min to figure out what the problem was, if they fix it great if not its not gonna keep me from getting one for my collection. I Don't think anyone is gonna see it on my shelf and notice and to be honest I don't think any Americans would know the difference anyway and would bet more then half the English don't as well. I know most Americans have no idea how many stripes are on the American flag or why, I know sad right. I'm glad it was pointed out to me as I learned something and that's a part of life I enjoy. regards Gebhard

 

[VIRIATO]

It took me 5 min to figure out what the problem was, if they fix it great if not its not gonna keep me from getting one for my collection. I Don't think anyone is gonna see it on my shelf and notice and to be honest I don't think any Americans would know the difference anyway and would bet more then half the English don't as well. I know most Americans have no idea how many stripes are on the American flag or why, I know sad right. I'm glad it was pointed out to me as I learned something and that's a part of life I enjoy. regards Gebhard

Still looks great, won't stop me from getting it.


Paulo

 

[kharkov]

Quick question which probably has an obvious answer but why the lighter shade of blue on the Union Jack compared to the darker shades on the foot guards and Scots releases?

 

[Gazza]

This is about historical accuracy and after all we are talking a national flag.

Where it is positioned is to distinguish on the flag the Scottish and Irish Kingdoms.

Imagine only 11 stripes on the US flag !!!

FL prides itself on historical accuracy – that is why I collect several of their ranges – and they got it right before, so should know better. For the prices charged it should be right.

And by the way Gebs - English and British are not the same :wink2:

For those who will still buy it - great.

The purpose of the post was to discuss FL's new product - after all that is what the forum is about

Gazza

 

[Gebhard]

This is about historical accuracy and after all we are talking a national flag.

Where it is positioned is to distinguish on the flag the Scottish and Irish Kingdoms.

Imagine only 11 stripes on the US flag !!!

FL prides itself on historical accuracy – that is why I collect several of their ranges – and they got it right before, so should know better. For the prices charged it should be right.

And by the way Gebs - English and British are not the same :wink2:

For those who will still buy it - great.

The purpose of the post was to discuss FL's new product - after all that is what the forum is about

Gazza

Hi Gazz,

Like you mentioned they got it right before so the research is there and done.

I'm sure its nothing more then a mistake by the Chinese painter and a little oversight in quality control for it to get this far.

If they got the US flag wrong I would have first laughed, then fired off an email to First Legion to inform them of the mistake, and then did what you did maybe make a post about it.

I agree with ya I expect perfection for my 60 bucks, FL have certainly shown a desire to do it right and its also one of the reasons I collect them. :salute::

I'm sure its not a conspiracy to upset the Scottish & Irish FL collectors :wink2: or is it ... Maybe Matt needs to address this.

Just for the record if they fix it I'll buy one if they don't I'll buy two, certainly a FL mistake will one day be worth a ton ^&grin Gebhard

 

[Vezzolf]

This is about historical accuracy and after all we are talking a national flag.

Where it is positioned is to distinguish on the flag the Scottish and Irish Kingdoms.

Imagine only 11 stripes on the US flag !!!

FL prides itself on historical accuracy – that is why I collect several of their ranges – and they got it right before, so should know better. For the prices charged it should be right.

And by the way Gebs - English and British are not the same :wink2:

For those who will still buy it - great.

The purpose of the post was to discuss FL's new product - after all that is what the forum is about

Gazza

Gazza....No question....you are 100% correct....This error in the Flag-Bearer is not exactly minor and I'm sure that Matt and FL are not happy about it....maybe it will be corrected, maybe not.....First Legion prides themselves on historical accuracy and excellent detail and that's why we collect FL products and not others.....Seldom does FL make these kinds of mistakes.....Still this looks like a excellent release....and since the British 1st foot guards are no longer available this is the next best thing..... I still think the British 1st Footguards need to be re-released....Also Re-Release more of the Russian and Prussian Flag-Bearers and Drummers to keep these NAP lines ALIVE and AVAIlABLE otherwise the remaining inventory dies out and the speculators shut down the line by hoarding Flag-Bearers and other key figures much needed in the series.....When you have a popular line that sells "keep it going" and make more of it.....Make a good accurate "much requested" products at fair prices....MAKE IT AVAILABLE for collectors to purchase.... and it will sell.....I will buy this line because....I NEED BRITISH NAPS.

 

[spartan71]

Gazza....No question....you are 100% correct....This error in the Flag-Bearer is not exactly minor and I'm sure that Matt and FL are not happy about it....maybe it will be corrected, maybe not.....First Legion prides themselves on historical accuracy and excellent detail and that's why we collect FL products and not others.....Seldom does FL make these kinds of mistakes.....Still this looks like a excellent release....and since the British 1st foot guards are no longer available this is the next best thing..... I still think the British 1st Footguards need to be re-released....Also Re-Release more of the Russian and Prussian Flag-Bearers and Drummers to keep these NAP lines ALIVE and AVAIlABLE otherwise the remaining inventory dies out and the speculators shut down the line by hoarding Flag-Bearers and other key figures much needed in the series.....When you have a popular line that sells "keep it going" and make more of it.....Make a good accurate "much requested" products at fair prices....MAKE IT AVAILABLE for collectors to purchase.... and it will sell.....I will buy this line because....I NEED BRITISH NAPS.

I feel your frustration, The 1st Footguards if re-released would attract a lot of buyers, and undoubtedly if all 18 pieces(not counting the colonel) were re-released in the same quantity as before. Would sell out all over again. I feel the same way with the Prussians And Russians. I would love some doubles at any of these areas.

 

[kharkov]

Reading this thread has been interesting. I hadn't paid attention before to the layout of the Union Jack. Also equally surprising is that when I googled the Union Jack in the Napoleonic Wars I found this article on the only surviving Union Jack from the Battle of Trafalgar. It actually looks like the "incorrect" version on the new FL miniature.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Trafalgar-sells-record-breaking-384-000.html

Back to my earlier question, does anyone know if the shades of blue varied in the Union Jack - I'm sure they did somewhat due to dyes and weathering, but I thought it was supposed to be a darker blue like the blue in the Trafalgar flag in the article.

 

[VIRIATO]

Reading this thread has been interesting. I hadn't paid attention before to the layout of the Union Jack. Also equally surprising is that when I googled the Union Jack in the Napoleonic Wars I found this article on the only surviving Union Jack from the Battle of Trafalgar. It actually looks like the "incorrect" version on the new FL miniature.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Trafalgar-sells-record-breaking-384-000.html

It does look like the FL one doesn't it? A messed up original I guess...^&grin

Paulo

 

[Gebhard]

Reading this thread has been interesting. I hadn't paid attention before to the layout of the Union Jack. Also equally surprising is that when I googled the Union Jack in the Napoleonic Wars I found this article on the only surviving Union Jack from the Battle of Trafalgar. It actually looks like the "incorrect" version on the new FL miniature.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Trafalgar-sells-record-breaking-384-000.html

Back to my earlier question, does anyone know if the shades of blue varied in the Union Jack - I'm sure they did somewhat due to dyes and weathering, but I thought it was supposed to be a darker blue like the blue in the Trafalgar flag in the article.

Hi ,
Like yourself I had never paid much attention to the details in the layout of the Union Jack and freely admit to leaning something on this one, but since your post this topic seems to have died. I do know enough about the Battle of Trafalgar to know when it took place, since the Union jack as we know it today dates from about 1801 maybe some of the ships fighting in the Battle where issued some earlier form of the flag. Still not sure about First Legions flag of the 51st. Regarding your concern over the shade of blue I'd put that down to the promo picture, for some reason FL's promo pictures are always a bit bright and really do the figures no justice at all. Thanks for the link.. always interesting to hear from members who take the time to put thought and research into their post. regards Gebhard

 

[Cyber Field Marshall]

Really liking the "green" regimental flagbearer, nice piece. ^&cool

 

[Grognard]

Really liking the "green" regimental flagbearer, nice piece. ^&cool

Just got this one and indeed it's a nice piece but as a warning the overall colors are much darker than the site picture version's. I often notice that with FL figurines btw.

 

[spartan71]

Just got this one and indeed it's a nice piece but as a warning the overall colors are much darker than the site picture version's. I often notice that with FL figurines btw.

I wonder if its darker than the 1st Foot Guards. Because I was planning to change some figures to make it part of my 1st Foot Guards.

 

[Gebhard]

Just got this one and indeed it's a nice piece but as a warning the overall colors are much darker than the site picture version's. I often notice that with FL figurines btw.

Hi Grumbler,
If you noticed my post below, that was my prediction. For some reason the promo photo's for FL have since day one too bright almost yellow in color. The photo's are always clear enough but they always have this same yellowish hue, I have to put it down to the printer and the settings. They certainly don't do the figures any justice. I have become used to it and actually kind of like it, it keeps sales down which gives me time to build my armies at a more leisurely pace :wink2: regards Gebhard

 

[Grognard]

Hi Grumbler,
If you noticed my post below, that was my prediction. For some reason the promo photo's for FL have since day one too bright almost yellow in color. The photo's are always clear enough but they always have this same yellowish hue, I have to put it down to the printer and the settings. They certainly don't do the figures any justice. I have become used to it and actually kind of like it, it keeps sales down which gives me time to build my armies at a more leisurely pace :wink2: regards Gebhard

Yep, but personally I would like them to stay on the bright side! :wink2: Best.

 

[Vezzolf]

Just got this one and indeed it's a nice piece but as a warning the overall colors are much darker than the site picture version's. I often notice that with FL figurines btw.

Just received some of these NAPS...I personally like the more subdued colors of the flag bearer