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[redhugh]

We were soldiers , was a great film though,Mel was good in that and Sgt Maj Plumley (sam eliot) was the best army *** kicker since Gny Sgt Hartman (lee emery) in Full Metal Jacket .

French in indochina, Battle of Dien Bien Phu ,would be a fairly dramatic line
or as Chris says one of the big forgotten wars of the last century The Korean war...US and British commonwealth forces on the Sth side and China and Russia on the Nth side.

 

[Currahee Chris]

This is going wildly out on a limb but perhaps Korean resistance fighters???? Kim Il Sung led several succesful guerilla actions against the Japanese occupiers- this might fit well given the recent releases of French Resistance fighters.

You know, because the US Marines and Imperial Japanese lines have been wildly succesful and KC can't stop cranking them out- all signs indicate that Korean resistance fighters have to be in the works....

 

[jazzeum]

Andy has repeated on a few occasions that he has no interest in Korea and I don't believe Figarti has done well with them and since Figarti has done them, no Korea, as well as no Vietnam.

 

[redhugh]

Korea would be a good follow-on for WWII collectors , as a lot of the equipment in WWII was used in that war , and has the same players , but this time up against the Chinese and the Russian airforce. Not a huge warbird fan, but the 50's planes had the most style about them IMO
Would be familar enough for WWII fans as a follow-on and would enable cool new updates to the armour section.

Guess this falls under World War 1 , but Laurence of Arabia and the Arab Revolt would make some very interesting dioramas

 

[Harrytheheid]

One thing to be remembered is that these new ranges will be something that K & C has never done or been done in a toy soldier. So, as an example, Boxer Rebellion is out as K & C has done that, albeit as a glossy.

In that case, it's going to be a range based on "War of the Worlds" - Right?
Or maybe "Mars Attacks"...???

 

[Harrytheheid]

Korea would be a good follow-on for WWII collectors , as a lot of the equipment in WWII was used in that war , and has the same players , but this time up against the Chinese and the Russian airforce. Not a huge warbird fan, but the 50's planes had the most style about them IMO
Would be familar enough for WWII fans as a follow-on and would enable cool new updates to the armour section.

Guess this falls under World War 1 , but Laurence of Arabia and the Arab Revolt would make some very interesting dioramas

Funnily enough I'm about 1/2-way through reading a novel about Lawrence of Arabia at the moment and I wondered if a LofA range is possibly on the cards, especially as the vichy camels have now been retired. That leads on to Turks and Empire troops for WWI as well.
Now, this could be a range with lots of possibilities.

 

[Saber]

How about War of the Roses (Not the Danny Devito movie mind you) or another age of knights conflict? Teutons or Joan of Arc perhaps?

 

[Saber]

That would give a little more variety to the trench warfare sets likely to dominate current WWI offerings.

 

[Harrytheheid]

Got a little worried with where that one was going

Good points all around. I hope KC steers clear of the ancients. Their Roman offering left a lot to be desired and, unless they really ramp things up, I don't see them doing Troy any justice.

Got a little worried with where that one was going

Being the Innocent Abroad that I am, it took a wee while for that one to sink through Chris.....
Personally, I think K&C would make a great job of the Trojan War, but I can't see it anytime soon.

 

[aujj65]

One thing to be remembered is that these new ranges will be something that K & C has never done or been done in a toy soldier. So, as an example, Boxer Rebellion is out as K & C has done that, albeit as a glossy.

Brad,

Does that mean the Northwest Frontier and the Sudan might not be on the cards?



Jeff

 

[redhugh]

Brad,

Does that mean the Northwest Frontier and the Sudan might not be on the cards?



Jeff

I saw a great film about Gordon and the fall of khartoum many years ago, however got the one with Charlton Heston Khartoum , but thats not the one I remember, does anyone know the name of the other one?

 

[Harrytheheid]

Thank you for your input Rob. Me, I know some of the issues surrounding that period of time-and some of the current discussion- it isn't so much that I support either point of view, as I feel as an American, I really have no right to go either way, but I guess I am still smitten with the "Braveheart" bug and just want to keep that going.

Thanks bud,
CC

Been thinking about this Chris - and its maybe not quite as limited as I first thought. It could actually be in 3 parts.

a) Early 1st War of Independence with Wallace and Chums, Stirling Bridge, Falkirk, Guerrilla Warfare.
Please - Please - no blue paint on faces....!!!!

b) Mid 1st War of Independence
Bruce's struggle against the Comyns/Balliols/MacDougalls

Personalities;

King Robert the Bruce
Sir James Douglas
Sir Alexander Seton
Sir Alexander Fleming
Earl of Lennox
Red Comyn
Earl of Buchan
Edward I (Boo.....Hiss....)
and for the ladies;
Queen Elizabeth De Burgh
Isabel, Countess of Buchan
Christina of Gamoran

Events;

The Crowning of Bruce at Scone by the Countess of Buchan
Battle against the MacDougalls at the Pass of Brander
Bruce and the Spider

c) Mid to Late 1st War of Independence
Bannockburn (of course)

Personalities;

A slightly more grand Sir James Douglas (try the following link)
http://uk.geocities.com/snow_man1uk/Randolph, Earl of Moray
Keith the Earl Marishal
Bishop Lamberton
Angus Og MacDonald, Lord of the Isles
Edward II (ha-ha-ha)

Must Have Event;

De Bohun on his warhorse in full armour charging Bruce on a pony and armed only with a battleaxe on the first day of the battle.

d) 2nd War of Independence
Bit more difficult, but how about "Black Agnes of Dunbar" - so called cos of her dark coloured hair and sallow complexion, inherited no doubt from her father, Randolph Earl of Moray.
A display of her on the ramparts of Dunbar castle showing her disdain for Edward Balliol's siege machinery would be pretty good.

What do you think Chris?

 

[Currahee Chris]

I think you're dead on bud.

Makes me sad without the Pictish blue battle paint

The crowning scene would be superb I think. as you can see, the range isn't as limited as one might initially think. In all honesty, it's not like I would expect this set to be one of the flagship lines- it could be a subdued, intermediate line akin to the Alamo or Egypt. It's not like they need to kick out a 100 piece catalog for it.

I dunno, I gotta think seeing all those tartan kilted King and Country figures might be even too difficult for Rob to resist.

Edward II- Yeah, that one would sell real well. Guess we couldn't slip the Black Prince in there, too far afterwards timewise correct?

 

[jazzeum]

Brad,

Does that mean the Northwest Frontier and the Sudan might not be on the cards?



Jeff

Jeff,

That would appear to be the case but with Andy never say never

 

[Harrytheheid]

I think you're dead on bud.

Makes me sad without the Pictish blue battle paint

The crowning scene would be superb I think. as you can see, the range isn't as limited as one might initially think. In all honesty, it's not like I would expect this set to be one of the flagship lines- it could be a subdued, intermediate line akin to the Alamo or Egypt. It's not like they need to kick out a 100 piece catalog for it.

I dunno, I gotta think seeing all those tartan kilted King and Country figures might be even too difficult for Rob to resist.

Edward II- Yeah, that one would sell real well. Guess we couldn't slip the Black Prince in there, too far afterwards timewise correct?

Guess we couldn't slip the Black Prince in there, too far afterwards timewise correct

Well, his Dad, King Edward III was just a boy during the 2nd War of Independence when Edward Balliol invaded with his host of "The Disinherited", who backed the wrong horse during the 1st one.
Wonder if it could be like an early Medieval range, say, 1297 (Stirling) up to 1513 Battle of Flodden..?? That would allow for the Black Prince, who pre-deceased his Dad BTW. And it would also allow for some early Border Reivers as well.....Hmmmm.....Nice..!!

 

[Rob]

I think you're dead on bud.

Makes me sad without the Pictish blue battle paint

The crowning scene would be superb I think. as you can see, the range isn't as limited as one might initially think. In all honesty, it's not like I would expect this set to be one of the flagship lines- it could be a subdued, intermediate line akin to the Alamo or Egypt. It's not like they need to kick out a 100 piece catalog for it.

I dunno, I gotta think seeing all those tartan kilted King and Country figures might be even too difficult for Rob to resist.

Edward II- Yeah, that one would sell real well. Guess we couldn't slip the Black Prince in there, too far afterwards timewise correct?

Somehow i'd manage it mate.Sorry but this era/subject does nothing for me,i need Tanks/Mg's!.

Rob

 

[Currahee Chris]

Somehow i'd manage it mate.Sorry but this era/subject does nothing for me,i need Tanks/Mg's!.

Rob

Claymore's are pretty exciting - definately cannot go wrong with tanks and mgs though

I'm being a pest!! I will leave you alone

 

[Rob]

Claymore's are pretty exciting - definately cannot go wrong with tanks and mgs though

I'm being a pest!! I will leave you alone

No probs mate.A conflict i'd love to see is the Sudan,four feathers and all that.I can imagine a scene of one of the last times the British Army used the Square surrounded by thorny bushes fighting off the Mardi Army.Lovely stuff!.Or how about the the charge at Omdurman featuring The one and only Winston C?.

Rob

 

[Harrytheheid]

Funnily enough I'm about 1/2-way through reading a novel about Lawrence of Arabia at the moment** and I wondered if a LofA range is possibly on the cards, especially as the vichy camels have now been retired. That leads on to Turks and Empire troops for WWI as well.
Now, this could be a range with lots of possibilities.

**It's called "Empire of Sand" by someone calling himself "Robert Ryan".
Not great - not absolute rubbish either, but not a book I'll be returning to once its finished.

 

[Harrytheheid]

Claymore's are pretty exciting - definately cannot go wrong with tanks and mgs though

I'm being a pest!! I will leave you alone

Oh, and for a 1297 to 1513 range;
I forgot Robert the Bruce's brother that nutter Edward Bruce who was killed trying to make himself King of Ireland.
And The Bruce's daughter, Marjorie Bruce wife of Walter Stewart who was mother of Robert II - first of the Stewart/Stuart Dynasty.
And Alexander The Wolf of Badenoch - one of the many sons of Robert II, who burned down Elgin Abbey just cos the monks annoyed him - he burned down the monks along with the Abbey.
And The Earl of Mar who's victory over the forces of the Lord of the Isles at the Battle of Harlaw just outside of Aberdeen ensured the final downfall of Celtic Scotland.
Then there's James I and Queen Joanna Beaufort. And James II blowing himself to smithereens trying to fire a faulty cannon during one of the many seiges of Roxbourgh Castle. James III being stabbed to death by someone disguised as a priest after the Battle of Sauchieburn - and the final tragedy of James IV at Floddon.

All of these could be the basis of some magnificent figures/displays/vignettes.

You're right Chris......A Bannockburn/Wallace or 1297 to 1513 range isn't limited at all.
And that's not even taking into account the shenaniggans during the reign of Mary Queen of Scots, or the 1645 Battles of the Earl of Montrose on behalf of Charles I.
And come to think of it, has K&C ever done the '45.....????

Hmmm.....all the above is much more interesting than some obscure 13-day holdout that took place in some abandoned adobe mission in 1836.......

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