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[Harrytheheid]

Hi Guy's....It's Bad-Heid popping up where least expected.......

Originally Posted by APACHEJOL
Help me out here who is Flashman and what is the Colonial India/Britian? One of the things I like about this forum is the history I learned in a very small amount of time. Please explain Thanks Joel

Hello Apachejol-

Flashman refers to a popular series of books by George MacDonald Fraser following the fictional - though presented as memoirs - exploits of one Harry Flashman. Flashman was seen by many of his contemporaries as a hero when in actuality he was a coward, a rogue and a rake. The books are very accurate historically - and even include footnotes expanding on the historical record Flashman stumbles across. K&C Hong Kong's Collectors Club released a Flashman figure awhile ago and these releases have often served as the clue to future lines of figures.

The Colonial India referred to is the period of time from roughly 1843 - 1858 (although I may be off a bit or wrong entirely, lol) during which Britain acquired India as a colony and the numerous wars fought to maintain it during the Victorian period. Others are much more knowledgeable on this than I am but that is my understanding - I'll let others elaborate and educate me as well.

Eric


Thanks for explaining that to Joel while I've been temporarily incapacitated Eric. Colonial India might be more like around 1757 to around 1947 although the expression is more usually made with reference to Victorian India. There's some more musings concerning Flashman on the "Flashman" thread Joel, I think its in the Books and Media section.

Okay then, where was I?
Oh Yeah,
As Brad said in some other thread, Samurai seems to be unlikely as one of the new lines. Although I do think there's going to be an Asian flavour to at least one of them.

Boxer Rebellion? - Possible, but maybe a bit limited, unless it was to incorporate other conflicts, al la 2nd Opium War up to the time-scale of The Sandpebbles. Sort of 80 Years of conflict on the Yantse, Pearl and Yellow Rivers Range.

Mongol Range? - More than Possible IMO.
Who would they fight? - Well, just about anyone North-East-West-South of the Central Asian Steppe.
West? Russians, Poles, Bulgars mainly.
South? Well there's the Mamalukes - I'm not sure if the existing range of Saracens could be used there.
East? Obviously the Chinese.
North? Hmmmm, dunno on that one. Guess we can rule out the Eskimos.

So, what else?
Yes, Colonial India and the North-West Frontier looks like a good bet. Gunga Din, Screw-Guns, Kim, Pathans, The Wolf of Kabul & Clicky-Baah, The Man Who Would Be King, and all that. When it appears, I reckon it'll be called the Rudyard Kippling Range - and why not...!!!
And Flashy was there in 1843 too...

Cheers
H

 

[redhugh]

What about the far far east WW2 conflict; Russians and Chinese versus the Japs, all the best selling ranges rolled into one

 

[redhugh]

Seriously though , maybe Gordon of Khartoum, and the Nile Expedition (with camel troops of course) under the command of Wolseley arriving too late to save Gordon Pasha or cromwell's new model army,the roundheads , Horse Dragoons, foot and artillery versus the Cavaliers, and charles getting beheaded of course

 

[Harrytheheid]

What about the far far east WW2 conflict; Russians and Chinese versus the Japs, all the best selling ranges rolled into one

Naaaah....don't think that one'll work - although I'm daft enough to go for it......In fact,,,,,,I LIKE IT......!!!!!
If hollywood does a blood-thirsty movie showing the conflict in graphic detail and throws in some of the current crop of Asian actresses as eye candy - then we're onto a sure fire winner.
Sad, innit.....

 

[damian]

Maybe there is room for a poll here.

 

[jazzeum]

Damian,

I don't think so. The ranges have already been decided and are probably already in manufacture so I don't think a poll would do anything.

 

[damian]

Brad
I was thinking more of a who can guess right type of poll just for fun.
Perhaps a competion where we all predict and then see who is right or closest. I am hoping for something colonial. Not AZW as Britains have that covered but perhaps the Sudan or NW frontier
Regards
Damian

 

[Currahee Chris]

I am assuming that this thread is related to the comment we recently heard "KC will be releasing two new lines this year.

Me, well, I am holding on to the slimest of hope that they will release a Bannockburn/ William Wallace line. I just think that those figures would just go over very well and easily fall within the purview of "Something not done before". Unfortunately, I don't have any evidence that could suggest that these figures would go over well, just my own hunch.

Question for you collectors in the UK- Would a Scottish Independence line like that suggested here by myself considered offensive or politically sensitive in the UK? I have often personally thought that that might be one of the barriers to releasing such a line. Of course, it would seem like anything Nazi related would be more offensive but, well, who knows.

But, I think you guys are right. I think the Collector's Club figures are a good predictor/ preview of what might be coming down the pipes. I am not sure if KC follows those lines of the recent CF's- the 9th Bengal and all that that they can say that this is something new and unseen- doesn't Britains cover that range of figures?? Admittedly, I do not know anything about that time period or region so I am making an assumption here.

Otherwise, I'll take a stab at other possibilities:

LAH 37 and LAH 39- we need bookends for LAH 38

Hogan's Heroes- Schultz might actually push the envelope and move KC's figures into the 1:28th scale

 

[Rob]

I am assuming that this thread is related to the comment we recently heard "KC will be releasing two new lines this year.

Me, well, I am holding on to the slimest of hope that they will release a Bannockburn/ William Wallace line. I just think that those figures would just go over very well and easily fall within the purview of "Something not done before". Unfortunately, I don't have any evidence that could suggest that these figures would go over well, just my own hunch.

Question for you collectors in the UK- Would a Scottish Independence line like that suggested here by myself considered offensive or politically sensitive in the UK? I have often personally thought that that might be one of the barriers to releasing such a line. Of course, it would seem like anything Nazi related would be more offensive but, well, who knows.

But, I think you guys are right. I think the Collector's Club figures are a good predictor/ preview of what might be coming down the pipes. I am not sure if KC follows those lines of the recent CF's- the 9th Bengal and all that that they can say that this is something new and unseen- doesn't Britains cover that range of figures?? Admittedly, I do not know anything about that time period or region so I am making an assumption here.

Otherwise, I'll take a stab at other possibilities:

LAH 37 and LAH 39- we need bookends for LAH 38

Hogan's Heroes- Schultz might actually push the envelope and move KC's figures into the 1:28th scale

Hey Chris,

It might be seen by some as offensive i guess,the question of Scottish independence is a hot topic right now and have to say i as a proud Englishman/Britishman would not be interested in such a series.I'd much rather see Andy produce some of 'Victoria's little wars'.

Rob

 

[Currahee Chris]

Hey Chris,

It might be seen by some as offensive i guess,the question of Scottish independence is a hot topic right now and have to say i as a proud Englishman/Britishman would not be interested in such a series.I'd much rather see Andy produce some of 'Victoria's little wars'.

Rob

Thank you for your input Rob. Me, I know some of the issues surrounding that period of time-and some of the current discussion- it isn't so much that I support either point of view, as I feel as an American, I really have no right to go either way, but I guess I am still smitten with the "Braveheart" bug and just want to keep that going.

Thanks bud,
CC

 

[Harrytheheid]

Hey Chris,

It might be seen by some as offensive i guess,the question of Scottish independence is a hot topic right now and have to say i as a proud Englishman/Britishman would not be interested in such a series.I'd much rather see Andy produce some of 'Victoria's little wars'.

Rob

While a range for the Scottish Wars of Independence has obvious appeal for me, I feel that its possibly a bit too narrow. Who knows though?
Victoria's Little Wars has a lot going for it.
Including the fact that this is one of the traditional eras for Toy Soldiers.

I still haven't given up hope of a Trojan War range, but then again, the only Trojans I'm really concerned about are the ones running around inside this laptop.....

 

[Rob]

Thank you for your input Rob. Me, I know some of the issues surrounding that period of time-and some of the current discussion- it isn't so much that I support either point of view, as I feel as an American, I really have no right to go either way, but I guess I am still smitten with the "Braveheart" bug and just want to keep that going.

Thanks bud,
CC

You have every right my friend,thats what makes this forum a great place.I can see why the Braveheart thing is popular with some,but as for me who wants the union to stay together,well to coin a good old English phrase 'Its not my cup of tea'!But i will now change tact away from politics before i get in deep water.Cheers mate

Rob

 

[Currahee Chris]

.....but then again, the only Trojans I'm really concerned about are the ones running around inside this laptop

Got a little worried with where that one was going

Good points all around. I hope KC steers clear of the ancients. Their Roman offering left a lot to be desired and, unless they really ramp things up, I don't see them doing Troy any justice.

 

[jazzeum]

One thing to be remembered is that these new ranges will be something that K & C has never done or been done in a toy soldier. So, as an example, Boxer Rebellion is out as K & C has done that, albeit as a glossy.

 

[APACHEJOL]

One thing to be remembered is that these new ranges will be something that K & C has never done or been done in a toy soldier. So, as an example, Boxer Rebellion is out as K & C has done that, albeit as a glossy.

If guess that means no Custer, Calvary and Plains Indians because they did the west already right? Please I cant take anymore tanks

 

[redhugh]

Hey Rob , guess you wouldn't be interested in the French (Norman) conquest of England in 1066 either, battle of hastings and all that

 

[Rob]

Hey Rob , guess you wouldn't be interested in the French (Norman) conquest of England in 1066 either, battle of hastings and all that

Actually i wouldn't mind that!.That would be a cool range i'd certainly collect.Maybe its nothing to do with British History,maybe its just because M.Gibson makes c*** films!!.But we've had that discussion here before so maybe i won't go there!

Rob

 

[Harrytheheid]

Actually i wouldn't mind that!.That would be a cool range i'd certainly collect.Maybe its nothing to do with British History,maybe its just because M.Gibson makes c*** films!!.But we've had that discussion here before so maybe i won't go there!

Rob

Rob,
Cummon, Mad Max 2 was almost quite good......

 

[Rob]

Rob,
Cummon, Mad Max 2 was almost quite good......

Almost Harry,almost

Rob

 

[Currahee Chris]

Alright fellas, no beating up on Rob, he was being kind enough to answer a question for me- I probably shouldn't have set him up like that

I thought We were Soldiers Once was a fantastic flick........ easily one of my favorites.

but I digress, does anyone see the Korean war as a possibility? True, Figarti dabbles a bit with Korea and i have seen some off beat DPRK troops in the past. Perhaps the Chaffee was a precursor...........