New lah (1 Viewer)

[MC BOWEN]

Hi guys anyone else have some photo's or comments on the new lah figures that came out in the last week or two?Mike B

 

[Guy]

Nice pics and collection
I am preparing a dio that will show that despite of all the negative criticism these figures received when they were put on the market you can give a positive message !!!!!!!
Now I am finishing a dio on D-Day and preparing a dio about the BoB , but when finished will start the lah dio ( hopefully ready for beginning 2012)
You wait and see
guy

 

[Mitch]

Mike..

The Flag bearers are a nice addition and, I do like the draped flag instead of the banners they look better in a display. I also think the standard bearer with flag at side is a nice change as they make a nice pre march display with some officers.

Will post some pics when I get a chance
Mitch

 

[MC BOWEN]

Thanks Mitch and Guy.Guy i will look for your lah's.Mike B

 

[ostrein]

Thanks Mike for posting these pictures of the new LAH figures within your impressive dioramas.
They are also on my "have-2-have" list but have to focus on the retired items first - a result of a momentarily shortage of funds

... I also think the standard bearer with flag at side is a nice change as they make a nice pre march display with some officers...

I second this . Nice new pose. But I would love to see it with the Führers Standarte instead.

Oliver

 

[MC BOWEN]

Thanks Mike for posting these pictures of the new LAH figures within your impressive dioramas.
They are also on my "have-2-have" list but have to focus on the retired items first - a result of a momentarily shortage of funds

Hang in there and i hope the fund shortage will straiten out.It is tough to choose what to get with so many nice items coming out and being retired.Good luck Mike B.

 

[Aleš]

I do not wannt to sound provocative ( my grand grand parents came from Germany, i also have german surname (or english....because in England is a lot of people who have the same surname, but i think it is sound more german,....) anyway i wannt to ask you WHAT IS THE MOTIVE that someone start to collect this LAH serie?
What the word LAH mean?

I also like the figures and everything but do you not have problems with friends, relatives, familly,...when you display them?

 

[PanzerAce1944]

LAH stands for the personal bodyguard of Adolf Hitler, "Liebstandarte Adolf Hitler" This unit started out as a bodyguard detachment and grew into a full SS combat fighting division equipped with tanks and all of the latest equipment Germany had to offer. I collect LAH because the uniforms are very flashy IMO and the figures make great looking dioramas when you have a bunch of them in a mass display. The role this unit served prior to and during WWII is huge.

 

[uksubs]

LAH stands for the personal bodyguard of Adolf Hitler, "Liebstandarte Adolf Hitler" This unit started out as a bodyguard detachment and grew into a full SS combat fighting division equipped with tanks and all of the latest equipment Germany had to offer. I collect LAH because the uniforms are very flashy IMO and the figures make great looking dioramas when you have a bunch of them in a mass display. The role this unit served prior to and during WWII is huge.

Thank for the information

 

[Aleš]

yes they are flashy, i like them also, i just ask because i am also thinking of start to collect them, but i am sure people will ask me questions.....How to explain them that i just collect them because of the colours and not because i support mass killing,gas chambers,....?

How other collectors deal with that?

And can you tell me more about the role of this units in WW2?

 

[Rob]

' yes they are flashy, i like them also, i just ask because i am also thinking of start to collect them, but i am sure people will ask me questions.....How to explain them that i just collect them because of the colours and not because i support mass killing,gas chambers,....?

How other collectors deal with that?

And can you tell me more about the role of this units in WW2? '


I think if anyone likes these figures they should go right ahead and collect them whatever family, Friends or other collectors think. I don't collect the LAH range because I don't like the idea of parading Nazi's. However I would never try and tell folk what to collect for one good reason, millions of people from many countries gave their lives fighting for freedom in the last War so we could all be Free to do as we please with our lives. Collect what you enjoy and enjoy what you collect I say.


Rob

 

[Mitch]

I think we need to fully distinguish the camp guards from the Waffen SS the armed part of the service. It does seem that some confuse this and lump everyone in the same boat and, its always the LAH figures that get the rise from those who wish to cast aspurtions against the whole of the SS.

The Totenkopf and Teddy Eiche (3rd SS division) were derived from camp guards the LAH and Das reich were not. That does not mean there were not members who were involved in the design (in terms of the workings) of the concentration camps there were but, on the whole these divisions were front line.

The Gestapo and SD et al were the main protagonists of these actions. Yes, they were all under the banner of a regime which, was totalitarian and, had dispicable goals but, they were doing their duty for their country whether or not that is palatable for some is neither here nor there.

I think should you wish to collect the LAH which I do then you should collect regardless of what others say or think. We collect from many era's where dispicable things were perpetrated against combatants and non combatants spreading across hundereds of years.

Personally I like the display that they achieve though, I do not collect any of the other ranges under the banner of Berlin 38 only the LAH everyone is allowed the right to buy and display what they want. I make no distinction to the parade figures and the combat troops that is my view of these figures. When some say you are a supporter of the regime if you collect parade figures IMO you support it no more or less than by having several armed units which are of SS.

One also has to remember where does one draw the line. Many actions including the Einsatzgruppen and the concentration camps could never have been actioned without the support of the Heer. So, what do we do buy nothing german???

Buy what you wish the Berlin range is probably one of the most popular ranges available and, why many of those who hate these figures are able to collect the ranges they do. If you want them buy them
Mitch

 

[MapleLeaf]

Let's never forget is the reason u collect LAH, that u can tell
anybody who ask u why. U don't see u don't remember.
LAH is very popular with collectors. Very colorful
LAH is part of history of Germany in a certain period of time.
U can collect history but u can't change it.
U collect what u like not what the neibor likes.

 

[PanzerAce1944]

I think we need to fully distinguish the camp guards from the Waffen SS the armed part of the service. It does seem that some confuse this and lump everyone in the same boat and, its always the LAH figures that get the rise from those who wish to cast aspurtions against the whole of the SS.

The Totenkopf and Teddy Eiche (3rd SS division) were derived from camp guards the LAH and Das reich were not. That does not mean there were not members who were involved in the design (in terms of the workings) of the concentration camps there were but, on the whole these divisions were front line.

The Gestapo and SD et al were the main protagonists of these actions. Yes, they were all under the banner of a regime which, was totalitarian and, had dispicable goals but, they were doing their duty for their country whether or not that is palatable for some is neither here nor there.

I think should you wish to collect the LAH which I do then you should collect regardless of what others say or think. We collect from many era's where dispicable things were perpetrated against combatants and non combatants spreading across hundereds of years.

Personally I like the display that they achieve though, I do not collect any of the other ranges under the banner of Berlin 38 only the LAH everyone is allowed the right to buy and display what they want. I make no distinction to the parade figures and the combat troops that is my view of these figures. When some say you are a supporter of the regime if you collect parade figures IMO you support it no more or less than by having several armed units which are of SS.

One also has to remember where does one draw the line. Many actions including the Einsatzgruppen and the concentration camps could never have been actioned without the support of the Heer. So, what do we do buy nothing german???

Buy what you wish the Berlin range is probably one of the most popular ranges available and, why many of those who hate these figures are able to collect the ranges they do. If you want them buy them
Mitch

Well Said !

 

[Mitch]

Panzerace44...

Cheers
Mitch

Well Said !

 

[cantinetozzo]

I was reflecting on a thing.I'm reading about the Burma campaign and in general i'm focusing on the far easttheatre of war..it's a thing already know that japanese soldier were not very keen to take and "understand" prisoners..what i read is beyond the human comprension :British prisoners of war tied to trees for bayonet practice , beheaded for not obeying menial orders..etc..I must say that even on the russian front there was not this ferocity..now the SS were the arm of a regime but it's right to differentiate between the Einsatzgruppen ,the camp guards of Eicke (i see them like a sort of psycopathic sort of hooligans unleashed on the object of their absurd hate , the jewish population inhabiting the little hamlets of poland ukraine etc) and the professional and i can say ,from a range of books i read,for the most part "human" other SS formations.I know of the massacre of Le Paradis and others but i ascribe them to the frustration of the SS fighters (there is a lot in precedent wars , John Keegan in the "Face of Battle" describes some of them from the british part) against the defenders not to preordinate way of conducting war..i'm not obviously justifying them but it's a thing that happens nonetheless and will happen till there will be a war on the earth..Yes the SS were ruthless in fight and their ideology justifyed total war but they lived by the sword and died by the sword ..i read of tankers at the end of the war fighting against americans and russians trying to change their black uniforms because they were mistaken for SS and readily executed.Even the massacre in the battle of Bulge by Peiper's men was an error from the recent books i read .But we have Peiper in figure too..and Panzer Meyer.As discussed in precedent threads i'd not buy camp guards and inmates (if Andy produced them , thing i don't think possible knowing him), i find that the most "unsettling" set we have is WS091..and returning to japanese ferocity maybe Andy read of the treatment on the British POW and this is a reason why we don't have many figures of the theatre..i conclude saying that my father (who was from the city of Caserta and refugee in the Cassino area during the battle ..not a great choice i must say) kept telling me of the sheer terror of the Germans but when they(he and his family) encountered the Heer soldiers these in their turn were terrorised from another kind of troops ..they told to my father "You don't have to fear us..but beware of the "Chain Dogs"...the Feldgendarmerie" ...My father talked always with admiration of the germans , wonderfully of the americans (with their chocolate and every other wonder they bring with them) and he loathed the french colonial ....for what they did to the women.I presume i didn't buy Goumiers if Andy made them.

 

[ostrein]

Mitch and cantinetozzo,

Thanks a lot for your thoughts and these great responses. It's highly appreciated.

Thanks

Oliver

 

[MC BOWEN]

Thanks Cantinetozzo,Mitch,Oliver,Panzer Ace1944,Ales,Rob,Mapleleaf,uksubs,Guy and anyone else i missed.Mike b.

 

[buffalohibernia]

People need to be aware and leary of any form of censorship from what we read or watch or collect. I personally don't collect LAH but that is my choice. I harbor no ill feelings for those who do. I don't collect Jap soldiers or Zulus or Indians either. One has to delve into history and observe that our heroes were not always honorable due to the heat of the battle.