Pacific-Episode 7 (1 Viewer)

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A great episode.I cannot imagine what those men felt going through a hell like that.Most of them must have felt that they wouldn't make it through.
Mark
 
The series surely seems to be getting better since episode 6. If that terrain is anything near what the real thing was then it was as close to hell as anyone could get! I believe this episode is the best to date.
 
Great stuff - this series is every bit as good as Band of Brothers..getting better..looks like next week is Iwo Jima...
 
kingtoot said:
Great stuff - this series is every bit as good as Band of Brothers..getting better..looks like next week is Iwo Jima...
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Spielberg was right all along. This series is not good, nor great, IT IS SUPERB!!!! Anyone that doesn't think the war in the pacific was not tougher than europe, isn't facing reality. The Marines and our allies, were not just fighting the enemy, they were fighting a way of life. Unlike the Germans & Italians, this foe would have never given up. Had we not dropped atomic weapons on them, we might still be fighting them somewhere in the home islands. They were tough and tenecious, and thier entire concept was very foreign to our way of thinking how war should be fought. They asked for no quarter, and surely gave none. Surrender was disgraceful to them, and they, quite possibly, were the toughest foe we have ever faced. This series is showing just one Marine division and its island campaigns, there were 5 other ones--- with savage---battles at Bougainville, Tarawa, Kwajalien, New Georgia, Saipan, Tinian, Guam, Roi-Namur, Enewitok and hundreds of other smaller islands. Each with its own stories of hardships endured, and tough fighting encountered. This along with our British and Aussie allies in thier own places of hell against this determined foe. Too bad this series isn't 100 episodes long..........Stryker
 
Stryker II said:
Spielberg was right all along. This series is not good, nor great, IT IS SUPERB!!!! Anyone that doesn't think the war in the pacific was not tougher than europe, isn't facing reality. The Marines and our allies, were not just fighting the enemy, they were fighting a way of life. Unlike the Germans & Italians, this foe would have never given up. Had we not dropped atomic weapons on them, we might still be fighting them somewhere in the home islands. They were tough and tenecious, and thier entire concept was very foreign to our way of thinking how war should be fought. They asked for no quarter, and surely gave none. Surrender was disgraceful to them, and they, quite possibly, were the toughest foe we have ever faced. This series is showing just one Marine division and its island campaigns, there were 5 other ones--- with savage---battles at Bougainville, Tarawa, Kwajalien, New Georgia, Saipan, Tinian, Guam, Roi-Namur, Enewitok and hundreds of other smaller islands. Each with its own stories of hardships endured, and tough fighting encountered. This along with our British and Aussie allies in thier own places of hell against this determined foe. Too bad this series isn't 100 episodes long..........Stryker
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Stryker II said:
Spielberg was right all along. This series is not good, nor great, IT IS SUPERB!!!! Anyone that doesn't think the war in the pacific was not tougher than europe, isn't facing reality. The Marines and our allies, were not just fighting the enemy, they were fighting a way of life. Unlike the Germans & Italians, this foe would have never given up. Had we not dropped atomic weapons on them, we might still be fighting them somewhere in the home islands. They were tough and tenecious, and thier entire concept was very foreign to our way of thinking how war should be fought. They asked for no quarter, and surely gave none. Surrender was disgraceful to them, and they, quite possibly, were the toughest foe we have ever faced. This series is showing just one Marine division and its island campaigns, there were 5 other ones--- with savage---battles at Bougainville, Tarawa, Kwajalien, New Georgia, Saipan, Tinian, Guam, Roi-Namur, Enewitok and hundreds of other smaller islands. Each with its own stories of hardships endured, and tough fighting encountered. This along with our British and Aussie allies in thier own places of hell against this determined foe. Too bad this series isn't 100 episodes long..........Stryker
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I don't know about 100 but 20 would be good.
Mark
 
Watching ep 4 now,very good so far.I didn't think ep 3 as good as first two but it was ok.This a great series and I too could enjoy many more episodes.

Rob
 
Something covered besides what appeals to combat fans ,is the increasing toll of the losses on the survivors.If Dye or whoever is responsible plus the actors,,they should all be singled out for praise.I have never seen or felt it done as well if it could be called that.If a final partial episode deals with their "homecoming "as well as Basilone trying to deal with things earlier,,,,it may give a slight idea of why they will forever be separated from everyone else and most experiences in the future.
 
What a tremendous episode. Best yet, IMO. I realize I must have said the preceding statement every week, but this series just keeps ramping up. If anyone doubts that the A-bomb was neccesary to defeat Japan, Styker's comments are spot on. All one has to do is read the numerous stories of Japanese soldiers finally being killed or captured YEARS after the war ended on those far flung islands. The last Japanese were caught on Peleliu in 1947. There was a Japanese soldier, in the Philippines who had to be talked into surrender in the 1970's ( the last survivor of a rather large group that had exsisted in the islands for years). These stories go on and on and are true. The Japanese were a fierce and implacable foe and only the A-bomb saved an estimated 1 million allied casualties if Japan was invaded. And as a matter of interest, I believe that the A-bomb saved the Japanese race from what might have been virtual extinction had the invasion been necessary. This has been an absolutely brilliant series and will be in my viewing library as soon as it is available. -- Al
 
The whole series has been a good watch for me - this episode was the best one yet.
Mike
 
Well I just watched eps 3 and 4,and whilst not as good as the opening two they were very enjoyable and still a good watch.The suicide scene was shocking and moving and another traumatic and intense night fight was once again executed very well.I think this series is doing just what it set out to do,to raise the profile of these young hero's,the terrible fighting they were involved in against a fanatical enemy and the horrible conditions they took place in.

Job done and heres to the memory of the Marines:cool:

Rob
 
Over the years on the History Channel and the Military Channel I have seen Eugene Sledge interviewed about his experiences. Seeing one of these interviews, where he talks about being talked out of taking gold teeth from a dead Japanese soldier, come to life in the middle of episode 7, was a very powerful momment for me.:cool:

The other thing I am getting from this series is that our commanders in the Pacific were as lousy as our commanders in the European Theater. What the hell were they thinking sending men across that airfield in broad daylight? Or sending men into that island without adequate drinking water? Peleilu was both a tactical and logistic disaster. Its a sad comment on the lack of good leadership the brave Allied soldiers labored under through out the First and Second World Wars.:(
 
I,m now even starting to like the Snafu charector.
Great series.
Gary
 
Rob said:
Well I just watched eps 3 and 4,and whilst not as good as the opening two they were very enjoyable and still a good watch.The suicide scene was shocking and moving and another traumatic and intense night fight was once again executed very well.I think this series is doing just what it set out to do,to raise the profile of these young hero's,the terrible fighting they were involved in against a fanatical enemy and the horrible conditions they took place in.

Job done and heres to the memory of the Marines:cool:

Rob
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For the USMC, thank you Rob.

You have some tremendous episodes coming your way!!!!!

Semper Fi, Stryker
 
I didnt catch who was KIA last night, to make Gunny Haney lose it..who was it? all in all - great series..too bad it ends in three more episodes.whoever complained earlier about the lack of character build-up spoke too soon..each of these actors were obviously put through their own meat grinder to do this
 
lancer said:
What a tremendous episode. Best yet, IMO. I realize I must have said the preceding statement every week, but this series just keeps ramping up. If anyone doubts that the A-bomb was neccesary to defeat Japan, Styker's comments are spot on. All one has to do is read the numerous stories of Japanese soldiers finally being killed or captured YEARS after the war ended on those far flung islands. The last Japanese were caught on Peleliu in 1947. There was a Japanese soldier, in the Philippines who had to be talked into surrender in the 1970's ( the last survivor of a rather large group that had exsisted in the islands for years). These stories go on and on and are true. The Japanese were a fierce and implacable foe and only the A-bomb saved an estimated 1 million allied casualties if Japan was invaded. And as a matter of interest, I believe that the A-bomb saved the Japanese race from what might have been virtual extinction had the invasion been necessary. This has been an absolutely brilliant series and will be in my viewing library as soon as it is available. -- Al
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Lancer: I totally agree with your views on the race thing. If the emporer had told them to keep fighting, they would have met the Maines on the beaches with spears..............Stryker
 
Louis Badolato said:
Over the years on the History Channel and the Military Channel I have seen Eugene Sledge interviewed about his experiences. Seeing one of these interviews, where he talks about being talked out of taking gold teeth from a dead Japanese soldier, come to life in the middle of episode 7, was a very powerful momment for me.:cool:

The other thing I am getting from this series is that our commanders in the Pacific were as lousy as our commanders in the European Theater. What the hell were they thinking sending men across that airfield in broad daylight? Or sending men into that island without adequate drinking water? Peleilu was both a tactical and logistic disaster. Its a sad comment on the lack of good leadership the brave Allied soldiers labored under through out the First and Second World Wars.:(
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There are always lousy commanders,The platoon I became a replacement in ,lost 13 killed and wounded due to a West Pointer attempting to recover a body ,"leaving no one behind "is an easy cliche at times other then being led into an ambush.
 
The other thing I am getting from this series is that our commanders in the Pacific were as lousy as our commanders in the European Theater. What the hell were they thinking sending men across that airfield in broad daylight? Or sending men into that island without adequate drinking water? Peleilu was both a tactical and logistic disaster. Its a sad comment on the lack of good leadership the brave Allied soldiers labored under through out the First and Second World Wars.:([/QUOTE]

It is my understanding that it was pressure from the Navy for the islands to be secured as quickly as possible. The admirals didn't want their ships stationary around an contested island for very long.
I have also read that there was friction between the Navy and the Army because the Army tended to attack in a more methodical manner. The more I watch this series, the more I am in awe of the Marines that served before me.
 
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