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Rob

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Guys, I wonder if I could ask a question of you dio experts out there.I am at the moment trying to find a paint to recreate dried mud (you know that lightish brown colour)Could any of you recommend a colour I could use.I have Tamiya xf 60 Dark Yellow, which is kind of ok but not spot on,anybody know of another colour or maybe a Vallejo paint that would do it?.

Any help would be most gratefully received

Cheers

Rob
 
Rob...

You can mix this yourself with a variety of colours but, my best advice would be Mig pigments and some pigment fixers. These will give you every type of mud colour and from every continent you could desire
Mitch


Guys, I wonder if I could ask a question of you dio experts out there.I am at the moment trying to find a paint to recreate dried mud (you know that lightish brown colour)Could any of you recommend a colour I could use.I have Tamiya xf 60 Dark Yellow, which is kind of ok but not spot on,anybody know of another colour or maybe a Vallejo paint that would do it?.

Any help would be most gratefully received

Cheers

Rob
 
Rob...

You can mix this yourself with a variety of colours but, my best advice would be Mig pigments and some pigment fixers. These will give you every type of mud colour and from every continent you could desire
Mitch

Thanks Mitch,very helpful.

Rob
 
Rob,

I tend to find that khaki (Vallejo or Tamiya) tends to be pretty close to what K&C use for alot of the light weathering, and mud patches. Doesn't look like it from the bottle, but when applied, it's the closest I've found.

Simon
 
Rob, I use pastel chalks, I bought a set at an art supply store several years ago, much less expensive per weight than Mig pigments. It's a set of earth tones, from a dark brown through lighter shades of brown and tan, and including a black stick, and a yellow. The set will last a lifetime, I'm sure.

For paint colors for groundwork, I use the inexpensive water-based acrylics sold at arts & crafts stores. Here in the US, Michael's and AC Moore are two of the larger chains of stores; I don't know the UK equivalent, but I imagine there is one. When I say inexpensive, these are 2-ounce bottles, sold at a dollar, and frequently on sale. For groundwork, they're perfect. I add the colors to the groundwork material, such as Celluclay, when I mix it.

To make mud, I'll grind some of the chalk, scraping it, really, with a hobby knife (like an X-Acto blade), selecting colors till they look right to me, and I put them in a well in my palette. A small jar or some other container would work just as well, as long as its water-tight. I add a couple drops of water, with a drop or two of dishwashing liquid, and stir this together with a toothpick, or an old brush, until it's of a consistent, uh, consistency :D

I apply it with the toothpick or brush, for example, into the road wheels on a tank, and in the track links, under the fenders, etc. Sometimes I'll apply paint as well, to help show gradations in color between the areas that are supposed to be wet, and older, dried mud spattered on the area, so, darker brown wet mud, and further from the muddy spot, khaki or tan dried mud.

I hope that helps, or provides more insight. Overarching is that for color, the manufacturer doesn't matter so much, as that the color looks like a match to my eye. And if the manufacturer doesn't matter, I'll buy cheaper materials, which leaves more money for more figures ;)

Prost!
Brad

And please show us what you're working on!
 
Rob, I use pastel chalks, I bought a set at an art supply store several years ago, much less expensive per weight than Mig pigments. It's a set of earth tones, from a dark brown through lighter shades of brown and tan, and including a black stick, and a yellow. The set will last a lifetime, I'm sure.

For paint colors for groundwork, I use the inexpensive water-based acrylics sold at arts & crafts stores. Here in the US, Michael's and AC Moore are two of the larger chains of stores; I don't know the UK equivalent, but I imagine there is one. When I say inexpensive, these are 2-ounce bottles, sold at a dollar, and frequently on sale. For groundwork, they're perfect. I add the colors to the groundwork material, such as Celluclay, when I mix it.

To make mud, I'll grind some of the chalk, scraping it, really, with a hobby knife (like an X-Acto blade), selecting colors till they look right to me, and I put them in a well in my palette. A small jar or some other container would work just as well, as long as its water-tight. I add a couple drops of water, with a drop or two of dishwashing liquid, and stir this together with a toothpick, or an old brush, until it's of a consistent, uh, consistency :D

I apply it with the toothpick or brush, for example, into the road wheels on a tank, and in the track links, under the fenders, etc. Sometimes I'll apply paint as well, to help show gradations in color between the areas that are supposed to be wet, and older, dried mud spattered on the area, so, darker brown wet mud, and further from the muddy spot, khaki or tan dried mud.

I hope that helps, or provides more insight. Overarching is that for color, the manufacturer doesn't matter so much, as that the color looks like a match to my eye. And if the manufacturer doesn't matter, I'll buy cheaper materials, which leaves more money for more figures ;)

Prost!
Brad

And please show us what you're working on!

Thanks Brad I really appreciate you taking the time to help me out.Thats very interesting,I'm actually using celluclay for the first time so its been a bit of a dio adventure!.I had been mixing some acrylics but couldn't seem to get the dry mud colour I'm after but it seems I have a wealth of choice of products.

I hope to be finished in a week or so and will certainly post some pics,thanks again

Cheers

Rob
 
I often default to Pollyscale "Earth" for my basic ground color and for some brushing of mud. One old technique is to get a bottle of paint, let it sit unshaken/unstirred, pour out the solvent leaving the gooey mess of pigment in the bottom. With a little practice you can apply this goo to a tank or truck and when it dries it can look a lot like mud. Practice on some scap pieces or cheap vehicles first and see if the technique works for you.

Gary B.
 
Guys, I wonder if I could ask a question of you dio experts out there.I am at the moment trying to find a paint to recreate dried mud (you know that lightish brown colour)Could any of you recommend a colour I could use.I have Tamiya xf 60 Dark Yellow, which is kind of ok but not spot on,anybody know of another colour or maybe a Vallejo paint that would do it?.

Any help would be most gratefully received

Cheers

Rob

Rob, I guess much depends upon what geographical area you are attempting to replicate. For example in the Somme you may even need some white to represent the underlying clay but imo red-brown is a good basic color for generic mud.

I know you are after a dried mud color, but take it from me, most people wouldn't notice.
 
Hi, Rob, I forgot another tip, since we mentioned Celluclay, and that's to add a little white glue to the mix. It helps prevent cracking or curling as the material dries.

Prost!
Brad
 
Thanks for all your comments guys,you have given me lots of options to think about.Its another reason why I like this forum, folk are really helpful and happy to help:)

Cheers

Rob
 

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