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Interesting article about Phil Collins and his interest in the Alamo. Donating collection to San Antonio.

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jun/27/phil-collins-artefacts-alamo-texas

The comments below show what a sad place the internet can be with many being negative.
However quite a few made good use of Phil's music titles in their posts.

A funny one was :

I also collect Napoleonic stuff......I've got an original copy of Abba's Waterloo.

Well done Phil.

Happy to admit to being a Genesis fan :salute::
 
People really need to get off their holier than thou soapboxes.Texas was actually a Spanish territory that that Mexicans took over after their independence from Spain.People have to realize that's what people did in the past,take territory from others.It was worldwide and included all peoples and nationalities for thousands of year.Santa Anna was certainly no saint.
Mark
 
Collins spent a lot of money and time collecting these historically important artifacts, no doubt saving many from obscurity, and then does the right thing and donates them for the good and enjoyment for all. Why in the world would someone have a problem with that? There sure are some stunningly ignorant people on the loose. -- Al
 
History is history.If an event is good or bad and it still happened and should be remembered.
Mark
 
All,

Dayum, I did not know how much contempt some of his British Brethren had for him (after reading the article and comments). Whatever man, I wish I had a collection or something to donate to a museum. To have it like that is awe inspiring. So, whether he is a wanker or not, give the man some respect for giving back to the historical community. Plus, "Basta" to the writer of that Guardian article and slagging San Antonio. **** him and the next I go to Houston I will be looking for his sorry ***.

Oh and yes I dig his music...many a teenage romantic nights with "One More Night" in the background.

John from Texas

PS: Where did he go after the Speech? Kings X of course.
 
Only in today's world can a generous donation that preserved history be turned into a slavery argument. WOW. What a truly sad statement. I am not a Texan, but how anyone can't help but have some pride for the Defenders of The Alamo, I don't understand. Thank God, I have reached 40, I am not sure I want to be in the shoes of my son and have a lifetime left to listen to this kind of crap.

TD
 
Only in today's world can a generous donation that preserved history be turned into a slavery argument. WOW. What a truly sad statement. I am not a Texan, but how anyone can't help but have some pride for the Defenders of The Alamo, I don't understand. Thank God, I have reached 40, I am not sure I want to be in the shoes of my son and have a lifetime left to listen to this kind of crap.

TD

Tom,

Well, I'm proud of the Defenders, the Alamo, San Antonio, Texas and the USA. We certainly live in a "patty cake/kid glove" society. I am passed 40 too and "over it". I have never had problems speaking my mind and challenging either an old school mindset or a new school dictum. For the old schoolers who are still living in the 60's, dude move on, LBJ sign it into law and that is that. My mom will never ever let go of the "whites only" thing and still has an inferiority complex being a women of color. Good lord Ma, nobody is going to ask you to leave and people aren't giving you dirty looks because your Mexican. It is an awful complex. Then the new be's who sit behind a keyboard and spew...NOTHING of relevance and is pitiful. My wife and I had to explain to our kids that the Karadashian people are NOBODY's...they are famous for nothing. No talent, no education, no skill...nothing... and there is no reason to laude or follow them. Yet, you can be frowned upon for not "liking" them on freak(face) book. What ever man!

So, any who Tom, I hear ya! Leave the dude alone man!

John from Texas
 
That slavery issue is relevant to much of American history but interest in the Alamo and adding to the artifacts of that fight does NOT mean a modern approval of slavery as a "good idea." Those Alamo defenders had a number of self serving plans just going to Texas like improving themselves and their families. I'm guessing that these men did not get up every day thinking that they had to enslave some blacks, but were going to succeed in an economy that slavery was a fact of life in.

I don't see any modern agenda of racism or exploiting slave labor in a man's interest in the Alamo fight.
 
Heck guys. I'm over 60 and the old saying "Freedom isn't free" applies to the gains of the Civil Rights movement of the 60s as well. The threats today to advances made 50 years ago can't be brushed off just because we might be tired of hearing about them.

It's great to take an event like The Alamo and be inspired by those folks willing to take a stand in a hopeless fight. If you raise your own kids with respect for the past and who the "good guys" are then don't worry.

BTW I had to stop reading the comments sections on any on-line article. Who the heck ARE these people anyway?
 
Heck guys. I'm over 60 and the old saying "Freedom isn't free" applies to the gains of the Civil Rights movement of the 60s as well. The threats today to advances made 50 years ago can't be brushed off just because we might be tired of hearing about them.

It's great to take an event like The Alamo and be inspired by those folks willing to take a stand in a hopeless fight. If you raise your own kids with respect for the past and who the "good guys" are then don't worry.

BTW I had to stop reading the comments sections on any on-line article. Who the heck ARE these people anyway?

Scott,

Your right and I apologize for my comment. And you know what I'm not trying to brush them off brother and maybe I was a little to placid about my mom complaint. I spent a lot of time in the classroom studying civil rights and heard all the stories about migrant working, segregation and "whites only" at the dinner table when I was a kid (mostly from my ma). My parents harbored that **** as they suffered enormous inequalities growing up. But, my pops was a proud man who went from the cotton fields to the Korean War to speaking English like a Northerner to getting a degree. So, he was more of a "boot strapper" than my ma. I guess I get his hard core outlook on life from him, whereby if you do the right things and don't lay around complaining then no matter what your color or creed you will be successful.

As a matter of fact, the "n" word was not allowed in our home or even any other slander against our own race or others. There were no "there was a mexican and a white guy walking.." jokes. Nothing. I have the same rule in my house, but good god did my pops curse both in English and Spanish. I try not to curse man, but it slips. Anyway, I certainly don't want to shrug of the "movement", it changed history as we know it. I guess I am tired of everything coming back to race and when an racial incident happens everyone needs to have a "dialogue" about it. Look man, people are always are going to bring up the ugly...I don't know why but that is where they go first.

Other countries loathe the US and always want to pick on our history like we are the only ones who committed crimes against humanity. Yo, this country was built on slavery, this country was built on migrant workers, this country was/is built on illegal aliens. However, this country was also built on ingenuity, risk, and imagination. And what a country it has turned out to be through the good, the bad and the fugly. So, your right Scott "Freedom is not free" and we have lots of vets buried with honors to prove it. Plus, there are others who served (and died) our country in a different way via marches, protests, and sadly just being victims of the times who have bled dearly for our great Country. I respect them all, but now is the time to move forward in this weird wacky world we live in now and join arm in arm to protect our(s) country from future threats. Because, I believe in my heart of hearts that they are not from with in, but from with out. If we harbor (not forget) the past we will never hope for the future.

I like you Scott and after reading the first comments on that article I was like "wow", tell us how you really feel.

John from Texas

PS: I like your avatar.
 
Nice move by him.

Hopefully all of the items he is donating are the right color, scale etc. otherwise the comments are going to be even more brutal.
 

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