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Blowtorch

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Can anyone provide a side by side pic of the Figrarti PzIVF2 vs. the K&C PzIVF1? Or perhaps a pic of the F2 without all the figs & bike on it.

thanks
 
Quickly taken.... I didn't want to take off the bicycle as it is tied on neatly!

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I just brightened up the pics in PS; that F2 went through one heck of a sandstorm!
 
The lighting doesn't really do it justice, but seen in real life this has the best weathering i've seen on a tank.
I really recommend this one.
 
Unfortunately the weathering is exactly what I dont' need...DAK painting would be OK for a Fall 1942 Stalingrad diorama, but not weathered like that. They would have just received the paint a few months prior
 
Blowtorch said:
Unfortunately the weathering is exactly what I dont' need...DAK painting would be OK for a Fall 1942 Stalingrad diorama, but not weathered like that. They would have just received the paint a few months prior
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Sandstorms :eek:
 
Blowtorch said:
Unfortunately the weathering is exactly what I dont' need...DAK painting would be OK for a Fall 1942 Stalingrad diorama, but not weathered like that. They would have just received the paint a few months prior
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DAk painting in Stalingrad?? Hadn't heard of that one before...any further info:)
 
redhugh said:
DAk painting in Stalingrad?? Hadn't heard of that one before...any further info:)
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Well tan colored vehicles were used on the Eastern Front, but I'm not sure about Stalingrad......Tan in white, very visible to the Russians.
 
Some vehicles originally destined for Africa and camouflaged in desert colors were redirected to the Soviet Union. There is photographic evidence of vehicles with light paint in the autumn of 1942

The climate and vegetation in the southern Soviet Union resembled the Mediterranean. Think about the open steppe covered with dry grass. This eventually lead to the adoption of Dunkelgelb as the base color for all German AFVs in February 1943 with brown and green supplied to maintenance units to augment the camouflage in the field to suit conditions.
 
What he said! :D

Frank is right. 1942 Russia was a wild mix of colors on the Steppe. Generally speaking, anything that survived 1941 & made it into 1942, stayed in Grey throughout the year. But new production was coming in different colors, & it's a complicated situation.

On one hand, vehicles were getting painted for DAK & ended up going east at the last minute. Also, new factory production (particularly StuGIIIFs) was appearing in a yellow, although probably not Dunkelgelb. Color researcher Jean Restayn has speculated that the color was a kind of ochre.

In a parade in Paris in June 1942, the LAH's new StugIIIF's were all coated in a solid yellow color; there is film available for this parade. In addition, there is a series of famous color photos of solid yellow StuGIIIFs in the factory district of Stalingrad (with barrels in red primer), 10/42, which is definitely not dunkelgelb.

If you look in Panzer Colors (iirc vol.1), there is a pic of a StugIIIF in Tunisia, same time period as the Stalingrad Stugs, painted exactly the same.

Also, in a Barbarossa edition of Signal, there is the famous aerial photo of a panzer grouping in Russia, in a village, everything in grey, except for one little Kubelwagon that sticks out like a sore thumb...in some kind of ochre. And that is 1941!

Getting back to Blau/42, even solid grey vehicles were getting one of a kind camo patterns with whatever camo colors they had available...usually Luftwaffe RLM colors. The consensus is that one of the Panzer Divs. that went into the Caucausus had it's panzers not in dark Panzer grey, but a solid coating of a lighter RLM grey

Interesting stuff.
 
That's really good research.
I remember from a few years back a Forces of Valor, eastern front, Panzer IV that was painted in heavily weathered yellow. I'd always thought it looked a bit odd but now it makes sense.
Good stuff.
 
I wish I could do research, but that's just observation. The information is there, but usually overshadowed by 1941 Barbarossa, or 1943 Kursk.

I took a look too see if any modellers made the Stalingrad StugIIIF's but they are obvously too boring. The vehicles are simply in a nice neat coat of ochre, no markings except for the cross, & a barrel in primer. Pretty boring for modellers. But here are some other Stugs in the same time period:


http://www.track-link.net/gallery/4577
http://www.track-link.net/gallery/5983
 
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