Remakes of Classics (1 Viewer)

I am a big Zulu fan. I would go for a Zulu movie that includes Ishandhlwana and Rorkes Drift. Stanley Baker and Michael Caine hard to beat although Jude Law has played Caine parts in Alfie and Sleuth recently. Just don't fill them with American actors !!!
A good Napoleonic movie is overdue considering movie makers have done plenty of WWII and ancient stuff.
Hard to do Longest Day and Bridge Too Far any better. Great fun watching and naming the actors.
Regards
Brett
 
A Zulu REmake could work with the right director.. for the Actors Jude Law and Hugh jackman would nail it :cool:.
Maybe a Spartucas remake with more battles.
Im not sure if a New Waterloo movie would sell tickets at the box office.
but the 1971 version is still fantastic..:cool:.
A 300 Spartans would be good (but this time less comic book style :p)
 
Zulu doesn't need remaking, Zulu Dawn does with particular attention being paid to detail, Martini rifles instead of carbines, proper tunics instead of nylon and proper helmets instead of fibre glass castings. What would be really good would be a third film culminating with the battle of Ulundi. Gatlings, charging lancers, who could ask for more?
 
Yes I would agree that Zulu and A Bridge Too Far could not be improved in any material way, except for the quality of the film masters. I am all for cleaning those up.
 
On the subject of "To Hell And Back", it is a typical 1950's era film with one notable exception. Audie Murphy was the real deal as he played himself and casting someone else just does not seem correct. I mean, this film, as corney and clean as it is, is a piece of history that needs to be enjoyed in terms of seeing a real live war hero on screen. This is not something likely to happen again. -- lancer
 
trooper said:
Zulu doesn't need remaking, Zulu Dawn does with particular attention being paid to detail, Martini rifles instead of carbines, proper tunics instead of nylon and proper helmets instead of fibre glass castings. What would be really good would be a third film culminating with the battle of Ulundi. Gatlings, charging lancers, who could ask for more?
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I just recently watched Zulu for the first time and I also saw about 20mins of Zulu Dawn. I found Zulu slow going to be honest with you. The part of Zulu dawn I saw was much more fast paced and seemed like it maybe a better film. (I'll have to get a copy and watch the whole thing though).
 
thebritfarmer said:
I just recently watched Zulu for the first time and I also saw about 20mins of Zulu Dawn. I found Zulu slow going to be honest with you. The part of Zulu dawn I saw was much more fast paced and seemed like it maybe a better film. (I'll have to get a copy and watch the whole thing though).
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Zulu as slow going and Zulu Dawn as better are two thoughts that certainly never occurred to me. I am not sure how the pacing in Zulu could be improved. The acting in Zulu Dawn could definitely be improved.
 
thebritfarmer said:
I just recently watched Zulu for the first time and I also saw about 20mins of Zulu Dawn. I found Zulu slow going to be honest with you. The part of Zulu dawn I saw was much more fast paced and seemed like it maybe a better film. (I'll have to get a copy and watch the whole thing though).
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Scott,
I'm sorry for our treatment of you. We never knew you had a drinking problem!
Please get help! Mike
 
Remakes are generally a lazy way for Hollywood to make a few bucks. As a result they usually stink. Add on to that fans of the original will almost always hate any revision and bombs away. There are a few exceptions. One of my favorite sci fi/horror films is the John Carpenter 80's remake of "The Thing."
 
Combat said:
Remakes are generally a lazy way for Hollywood to make a few bucks. As a result they usually stink. Add on to that fans of the original will almost always hate any revision and bombs away. There are a few exceptions. One of my favorite sci fi/horror films is the John Carpenter 80's remake of "The Thing."
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I am inclined to agree with your general premise and I certainly agree with your exception. To me, other exceptions include the 1956 Hitchcock "The Man Who Knew Too Much", DePalma's 1983 Scarface, the 1978 version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers and The Magnificent Seven which to me is really different than the great in its own right Seven Samurai. I also think the 2002 Bourne Identity and Counte of Monte Cristo were much better than the originals. I know a number of people liked the Spielberg "War of the Worlds" but frankly I thought is was seriously flawed.

Frighteningly enough, there are some great movies on the remake schedule right now, including The Thing:eek:. Others said to be in development that I think they should let be include: The Last Starfighter, The Birds, Conan, Deathwish (with Stallone:eek:), Strawdogs and The Dirty Dozen. There are some others in progress that while the originals were pretty good maybe could be made better like Dune, West World and Clash of the Titans. The Taking of Pelham 123 was great but the version proposed with Denzel Washington could be justified on its own merits. We shall soon find out about The Day the Earth Stood Still.;) And then there are some rumored that might be difficult to be made any more poorly than the originals like Piranha, Night Rider and The Shadow.:rolleyes:
 
Spitty,
Ah, the Bourne series was excellent, though not as good as the books... And Count of Monte Cristo with Gerard Deparwhatever in all its long glory was delightful. How long was it anyway? I recall thinking it would be the movie to watch if I was laid up for awhile in bed, and couldn't move:eek::) Mike
 
lancer said:
On the subject of "To Hell And Back", it is a typical 1950's era film with one notable exception. Audie Murphy was the real deal as he played himself and casting someone else just does not seem correct. I mean, this film, as corney and clean as it is, is a piece of history that needs to be enjoyed in terms of seeing a real live war hero on screen. This is not something likely to happen again. -- lancer
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Lancer, I agree with you on all the above.But I think a remake may introduce Audie Murphy and his incredible story to many younger folks that probably are not going to watch the original when it happens to be on one of 500 channels on the tube.
I recall going to the theatre to see " THE GREAT RAID" a few years ago and the young Lady taking my ticket , probably not out of High School said to me
"THIS WAS SUCH A GOOD MOVIE. I HAD NO IDEA !"
The original is a classic to old hands like us.But if done right it could send a very powerfull and deeply moving film experiance for younger audiances as well as the older crowd.

Just my 2 bits worth.

FUbaR
 
A 1970's movie that DOES cry out for a remake is "Midway". Lousy acting on both sides, re-used footage from "Tora-Tora-Tora" and they managed to lose most of the real drama of the battle of Midway. Imagine this redone with a better director, better writers and CGI support.

Gary
 
binder001 said:
A 1970's movie that DOES cry out for a remake is "Midway". Lousy acting on both sides, re-used footage from "Tora-Tora-Tora" and they managed to lose most of the real drama of the battle of Midway. Imagine this redone with a better director, better writers and CGI support.

Gary
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I agree 100%. And they can strip out the fictional plot items, too, and leave the historical events as they were.

Prost!
Brad
 
theBaron said:
I agree 100%. And they can strip out the fictional plot items, too, and leave the historical events as they were.

Prost!
Brad
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I would respectfully disagree. It is fine to have a documentary on historical events without any plot but a movie is a story and it should be free to have fictional plot items. There is nothing wrong with supplimental entertainment to accompany your education. Of course as I have said often here, the primary purpose of a movie is to entertain, not to educate. If it can do the first with some of the second, that to me is a bonus.;):cool:
 
Spitfrnd said:
I would respectfully disagree. It is fine to have a documentary on historical events without any plot but a movie is a story and it should be free to have fictional plot items. There is nothing wrong with supplimental entertainment to accompany your education. Of course as I have said often here, the primary purpose of a movie is to entertain, not to educate. If it can do the first with some of the second, that to me is a bonus.;):cool:
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I'll clarify what I mean, by using the usual, and some may add, obvious, comparison to the far, far better "Tora! Tora! Tora!". That movie had no fictional elements added to it, in the same way the "Midway" did. I think the subplot including Charlton Heston's character, his son, and the Nisei girlfriend were really unnecessary. The Battle of Midway has plenty of drama and heroism (on both sides, even). I think it would have been better to have cast Heston as Wade McCluskey, since his character was basically another CAG, or a super-CAG. That's what I meant.

On the flip side, I wouldn't strip the story elements from "Battle of the Bulge," because that's supposed to be an action-adventure, set against the actual historical events. But "Midway" was supposed to be more of a film along the lines of TTT. It fails, as an accurate historical drama, and if it was intended to be an action-adventure, I think it fails in that respect, too, because the screenwriters could have added more fictional drama to it, a la the later "Pearl Harbor" (another truly awful film, in my opinion).

"Midway" is just not that good.

Prost!
Brad
 
If they make a remake of Zulu, I would like to see these people casted

Chard-Jude Law
Bromhead-Ewan McGreagor
Adledorf-Russel Crowe
Bourne-Sam Elliot with some chops


You know this would make a hit!

Vick
 
Lewey Gun Vick said:
If they make a remake of Zulu, I would like to see these people casted

Chard-Jude Law
Bromhead-Ewan McGreagor
Adledorf-Russel Crowe
Bourne-Sam Elliot with some chops


You know this would make a hit!

Vick
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Not sure about who to cast but I think it would be neat to see a version of the Zulu War done in the style of 300.
 
Lewey Gun Vick said:
If they make a remake of Zulu, I would like to see these people casted

Chard-Jude Law
Bromhead-Ewan McGreagor
Adledorf-Russel Crowe
Bourne-Sam Elliot with some chops


You know this would make a hit!

Vick
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A remake of "Zulu", and no roles for Pete Postelthwaite, or Sean Bean? Those are serious omissions! ;)

Prost!
Brad
 
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