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[JPB]

Who made this U-boat?

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Who made this U-boat?

Seems like it was someone in Australia - likely from Brisbane. Since Andy is in Brisbane, we might get to see more pictures of it. I wonder if it is a candidate to be made out of tinplate?

Terry

 

[jazzeum]

Hi Guys,

Like all of you I am a collector too...And I like to share some of my own collection from time to time. I also like to “float” potential concepts to see what might be the appeal to fellow collectors out there...So that is/was the intent of my post...pure and simple.

I hope this explanation explains what I had in mind.

Best wishes and happy collecting!

Andy​

Andy,

Always a good idea to float ideas. I think part of the frustration that it wasn't apparent that you were doing that.

Be that as it may, you could see there was interest and excitement, although I understand the challenges you face in making something.

Hope you are having a good trip.

Brad

 

[Maccoy]

Hi Guys,

Like all of you I am a collector too...And I like to share some of my own collection from time to time. I also like to “float” potential concepts to see what might be the appeal to fellow collectors out there...So that is/was the intent of my post...pure and simple.

I hope this explanation explains what I had in mind.

Best wishes and happy collecting!

Andy​

Greetings

There is a lot of space to develop the Kriegsmarine range. They had a lot of good officers like Gunther Prien,etc. Also auxiliary personal, mechanics. Much can be done in this range. One of my favorites!!

best regards,
Maccoy

 

[maddadicus]

At one time, there was an outfit that made 1/32 scale polyfoam ships and forts. I even remember a pirate ship as well as an ACW mortar raft.. Could that be an less expensive alternative to making larger vessels and aircraft. All one needs to do is make a master mold and fill it with gunk and a releasing agent...Michael

 

[wayne556517]

This might be the closest we get to a U-Boat.

 

[Napoleon1er]

At one time, there was an outfit that made 1/32 scale polyfoam ships and forts. I even remember a pirate ship as well as an ACW mortar raft.. Could that be an less expensive alternative to making larger vessels and aircraft. All one needs to do is make a master mold and fill it with gunk and a releasing agent...Michael

Do you remember the name of the company?

 

[Mark IV]

Sorry about the upside down photographs but could this be a new prototype as displayed at the Brisbane DIO

No comment from Andy.

Regards
Mark

 

[wayne556517]

Isn't that a cardboard 1 made by Brett's mate ??

 

[maddadicus]

Do you remember the name of the company?

Some might know a few others, but Barzco offered a pirate ship and various forts in this medium. Also, could the sub be made out of vacuumed formed plastic shells..? Michael

 

[waynepoo]

Isn't that a cardboard 1 made by Brett's mate ??

Who made it?................AHH that is the question. :wink2:

 

[waynepoo]

This might be the closest we get to a U-Boat.

No got close to one last night.

 

[Larry Allen]

Sorry about the upside down photographs but could this be a new prototype as displayed at the Brisbane DIO

Regards
Mark[/QUOTE]

Well Andy is in the "Land down Under" so being upside down makes perfect sense ... to me anyway. {sm3}
Still, that is a beautiful boat and I have to believe a big seller if it should ever come to market. I'd buy one!
--- LaRRy

 

[HB120050]

Looks like a Type XXIII boat. Very advanced, but didn't come on-line until right before the end of the war.

 

[WesternOutlaw]

That's an awesome sub! If not the complete length with deck, maybe just the conning tower. Would love to see one produced by K&C!

 

[Oberstinhaber]

Looks like a Type XXIII boat. Very advanced, but didn't come on-line until right before the end of the war.

Well done, that man! It is a Type 23 boat.

One of the reasons it was modelled, as opposed to other Types, is that it is not "excessively long" in 1/30 scale.

The Crew is a mixture of KnC Kriegsmarine and converted Del Prado Firemen (there is a nexus, I believe)

Purists will also note that the semaphore flags have been repainted in the correct, "German" colours not "British Commonwealth" colours.

The model is made from cardboard with some cast resin parts and wire handrails etc.

The model was made and painted by an expert "master modeller", who has been making and painting great models for over 50 years (and it is not me, I hasten to add)

Like everything in life, there is a "story" as to how this, and Andy's Conning Tower model, which started this thread, came about.

At the risk of boring you all to sobs, here is that story.

By way of background, I, and the aforesaid, "master modeller" both belong to a TS group which has now existed continuously for over 65 years, albeit with a change of name, and changes in personnel. I joined in April 1969. Originally known as the BMMS (Brisbane MIlitary Miniatures Society) , it morphed into being the BTSA (Brisbane Toy Soldier Association) in the late 1980's/early 1990's. Meetings were held monthly on a rotational basis at Member's houses. We now meet every second Monday, at a member's house.

In the early 1970's, one of our number, the late Kevin Wiltshire, hit upon a brilliant idea. He would open his "soldier room" to all comers, on a Monday night, so that people could come and paint HIS figures. The rewards for painting Kev's figures were that attendees had somwwhere to go on a Monday night, (indeed, I believe that some of the wives actively encouraged attendance!) There was great camaradarie, and, everyone received one cup of "coffee" and 2 dry biscuits. Tea was not on the menu, as that required too much effort on Kev's part, ("coffee" was instant coffee).

It didn't take long before this group was christened: "The Monday Night Sweat Shop". A name which persists today notwithstanding the factual situation has changed

Despite the fact that we were all being conned, this was a remarkably successful venture. It endured from 1972 until 2010. When, at age 82, Kevin announced that he couldn't host us anymore, so we moved to another member's house, but on every second Monday.

At A MNSS meeting at Kev's, some years ago, one of our number produced the then new KnC Kriegsmarine figures at "Show and Tell" As we were all Oohing and Ahring, I made the statement:"There is only one way to display these figures; on the Conning Tower of a U Boat"

The aforementioned master modeller, took that to heart, and there followed a period of several years as he, and to a lesser extent I, searched high and low for information on U Boat models. Yes, there have been several, but not in 1/30 scale. We eventually came to the conclusion that the only way to go was to make one ourselves, in cardboard. We figured that, if we could get a "decent" model in a close to 1/30 scale, we could scale it up or down, as needed, on a photocopier.

The first experiment was a "Germania" WWI boat scaled up from 1/250 scale. It worked out better than we expected. Soon we had a good master of a Type 7, and a conning tower and deack section was produced. With the figures on it, it looked just magic.

Four years ago, we quietly took it and the figures to Bretts ship, before the Brisbane Dinner. With Andy and Brett at the other end of the ship, we set it, and the figures, up on the front counter, and then called Andy to come have a look.

After Andy's eyes returned to their normal size and he picked his jaw up off the floor, he quietly said: "That's the best I've ever seen those figures displayed"

Subsequently, Andy commissioned the master modeller to make a Conning tower section for him. The rest, as they say, is history.

At the last Brisbane Dinner, just last Sunday, Andy announced that he couldn't percieve any way he could produce a "commercial" model which would be attractive, transpot easily and be a reasonable price; so he reluctantly, has had ro shelve any thoughts of a KnC U Boat.

That's all, Folks!!

Happy modelling/collecting,

Bob

 

[waynepoo]

Well done, that man! It is a Type 23 boat.

One of the reasons it was modelled, as opposed to other Types, is that it is not "excessively long" in 1/30 scale.

The Crew is a mixture of KnC Kriegsmarine and converted Del Prado Firemen (there is a nexus, I believe)

Purists will also note that the semaphore flags have been repainted in the correct, "German" colours not "British Commonwealth" colours.

The model is made from cardboard with some cast resin parts and wire handrails etc.

The model was made and painted by an expert "master modeller", who has been making and painting great models for over 50 years (and it is not me, I hasten to add)

Like everything in life, there is a "story" as to how this, and Andy's Conning Tower model, which started this thread, came about.

At the risk of boring you all to sobs, here is that story.

By way of background, I, and the aforesaid, "master modeller" both belong to a TS group which has now existed continuously for over 65 years, albeit with a change of name, and changes in personnel. I joined in April 1969. Originally known as the BMMS (Brisbane MIlitary Miniatures Society) , it morphed into being the BTSA (Brisbane Toy Soldier Association) in the late 1980's/early 1990's. Meetings were held monthly on a rotational basis at Member's houses. We now meet every second Monday, at a member's house.

In the early 1970's, one of our number, the late Kevin Wiltshire, hit upon a brilliant idea. He would open his "soldier room" to all comers, on a Monday night, so that people could come and paint HIS figures. The rewards for painting Kev's figures were that attendees had somwwhere to go on a Monday night, (indeed, I believe that some of the wives actively encouraged attendance!) There was great camaradarie, and, everyone received one cup of "coffee" and 2 dry biscuits. Tea was not on the menu, as that required too much effort on Kev's part, ("coffee" was instant coffee).

It didn't take long before this group was christened: "The Monday Night Sweat Shop". A name which persists today notwithstanding the factual situation has changed

Despite the fact that we were all being conned, this was a remarkably successful venture. It endured from 1972 until 2010. When, at age 82, Kevin announced that he couldn't host us anymore, so we moved to another member's house, but on every second Monday.

At A MNSS meeting at Kev's, some years ago, one of our number produced the then new KnC Kriegsmarine figures at "Show and Tell" As we were all Oohing and Ahring, I made the statement:"There is only one way to display these figures; on the Conning Tower of a U Boat"

The aforementioned master modeller, took that to heart, and there followed a period of several years as he, and to a lesser extent I, searched high and low for information on U Boat models. Yes, there have been several, but not in 1/30 scale. We eventually came to the conclusion that the only way to go was to make one ourselves, in cardboard. We figured that, if we could get a "decent" model in a close to 1/30 scale, we could scale it up or down, as needed, on a photocopier.

The first experiment was a "Germania" WWI boat scaled up from 1/250 scale. It worked out better than we expected. Soon we had a good master of a Type 7, and a conning tower and deack section was produced. With the figures on it, it looked just magic.

Four years ago, we quietly took it and the figures to Bretts ship, before the Brisbane Dinner. With Andy and Brett at the other end of the ship, we set it, and the figures, up on the front counter, and then called Andy to come have a look.

After Andy's eyes returned to their normal size and he picked his jaw up off the floor, he quietly said: "That's the best I've ever seen those figures displayed"

Subsequently, Andy commissioned the master modeller to make a Conning tower section for him. The rest, as they say, is history.

At the last Brisbane Dinner, just last Sunday, Andy announced that he couldn't percieve any way he could produce a "commercial" model which would be attractive, transpot easily and be a reasonable price; so he reluctantly, has had ro shelve any thoughts of a KnC U Boat.

That's all, Folks!!

Happy modelling/collecting,

Bob

Having seen the said U Boat and chatted to the Maker (nice bloke to by the way) at the dinner, someone said 'now wouldn't a Tobruk dio with a RN sub bringing in supplies at night be nice, all in 1/30 scale of course'. Could our merry band now have a ship yard joining? the mind boggles! :wink2:
Wayne.

 

[WesternOutlaw]

Interesting story and an enjoyable read.

Even if a full scale sub is not offered for the Kriegsmarine collection, I still think there is a lot of opportunity to expand or "return to" the theme.

• Kriegsmarine in some action shots (shooting/working)
• Kriegsmarine/commando fighting figures
• Raft with 2-3 figures
• Flak 38 with some gunners/loaders
• Repainted version of the Seehund (perhaps all grey)
• Small support boat
• Arado Ar 196 airplane

I believe someone also mentioned a tin plate full scale sub similar to that shared in this topic if there is an opportunity to actually offer one. A sectional version sounds like a pretty nice idea as well. In any case, I would love to see the theme expanded.

Then again, I would need to figure out where to put any new items.

Kriegsmarine Collection by Western Outlaw, on Flickr

 

[Mark IV]

Having seen the said U Boat and chatted to the Maker (nice bloke to by the way) at the dinner, someone said 'now wouldn't a Tobruk dio with a RN sub bringing in supplies at night be nice, all in 1/30 scale of course'. Could our merry band now have a ship yard joining? the mind boggles! :wink2:
Wayne.

Now things are getting interesting a ship yard along with something else to do with Landcaster Bombers we need to move all the students out.

Interesting year ahead.

Regards
Mark

 

[JPB]

Now I still don't know, who made the U-boat