ROM110-ROM114 Imperial Roman Testudo (1 Viewer)

I was just wondering if anyone who collects the Roman line has put one of these together or are in the process.
Mark

Im in the process of completing a smaller version. I get 5 more figures that are due to arrive this week or the next. And then my next order of 5 I'll receive in Feb. which will complete my formation. My completed formation will be 5 wide and 3 ranks deep 19figs total.
 
I was just wondering if anyone who collects the Roman line has put one of these together or are in the process.
Mark

I am also in the process with 8 in hand, 4 on the way and 4 more on deck. So, I am creating two tent sections worth of Testudo. So, I will be 4 by 4.
 
I finally completed my 19 man testudo. I told myself that 19 would be fine but after putting it together I think I might add another rank or 2. Not that it needs another rank.





 
Great! I have to start build mine, Matt says that figures are nearly gone, will be restocked in a few months but this will be final production.
 
I finally completed my 19 man testudo. I told myself that 19 would be fine but after putting it together I think I might add another rank or 2. Not that it needs another rank.






This looks great - a couple more rows would make it look even more impressive

How are you planning to use it is a dio???

Thanks for sharing

Gazza
 
Joe...

I think these are beautiful...and I'm the farthest thing from a rivet counter or a historian demanding accuracy as you will ever find...

but just a question...

is this how the a testudo is actually set up?

is the back line of shields supposed to overlap the ones in front of them?

or is the line of front shields supposed overlap the line behind it?

it seems like a nice portal for an archer to hit someone on the back line of the testudo right in the face...

like an arrow on top would deflect/bounce right into the gap...

see white arrow...

does anybody know?
 

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Don't forget that the whole thing was moving - in short: a gap would appear and disappear as the shields were not linked.
 
Don't forget that the whole thing was moving - in short: a gap would appear and disappear as the shields were not linked.

yea...

sure you're right...

it just seems like the scales of a reptile would be overlapped front to back...

to repel the arrows...

the shields are certainly long enough...

I just would hate to be the guy on that back row when arrows started hitting those shields...^&grin
 
Sahara,
Did you have trouble getting them all to fit together properly? I am having trouble getting a few in place. The biggest problem is the right front legionary's sword arm (ROM110) being covered by the shield of the legionary directly behind him. I cannot get mine to over lap.

Thanks,

Larry
 
Joe...

I think these are beautiful...and I'm the farthest thing from a rivet counter or a historian demanding accuracy as you will ever find...

but just a question...

is this how the a testudo is actually set up?

is the back line of shields supposed to overlap the ones in front of them?

or is the line of front shields supposed overlap the line behind it?

it seems like a nice portal for an archer to hit someone on the back line of the testudo right in the face...

like an arrow on top would deflect/bounce right into the gap...

see white arrow...

does anybody know?


These definitely are some very nice figures. I was gonna limit this formation to 19 but I'm thinking about adding 1 or 2 more rows. Your question about the placing of the shields is a good one. I have seen both methods used in reenactments where the overlap went from front to back and back to front. I have also seen some with no overlap at all with the center holding the shield square over their head with no tilt. However, from the limited info I have read about this formation it appears the way I have it is the more common method. Reason being that this was to prevent gaps in the formation and to keep the shields as close to interlocked as possible. The method I have displayed gives the soldiers in the center a means to see out of the formation and adjust to the pace or shorten up the ranks to maintain the shape of the testudo. If the formation was presented with the shield overlapping the shield behind it then the soldier in front of him and the soldier attempting to peer out would have to open up their shield sorta like a tulip opens in spring. This method is not really feasible and can easily disrupt the formation of the testudo. Not to mention the soldiers in the middle would be entirely blind.
 
Sahara,
Did you have trouble getting them all to fit together properly? I am having trouble getting a few in place. The biggest problem is the right front legionary's sword arm (ROM110) being covered by the shield of the legionary directly behind him. I cannot get mine to over lap.

Thanks,

Larry

I had to figit with it a bit before I got it right but once I figured it out it seemed to fall in place rather easily. The right front did present a bit of a challenge. The figures need to be really snug against one another. I don't think I was able to completely cover his arm either but I got it to a acceptable position.
 
This looks great - a couple more rows would make it look even more impressive

How are you planning to use it is a dio???

Thanks for sharing

Gazza

These fellas will be attacking a hill fort that I have been working on.
 
These definitely are some very nice figures. I was gonna limit this formation to 19 but I'm thinking about adding 1 or 2 more rows. Your question about the placing of the shields is a good one. I have seen both methods used in reenactments where the overlap went from front to back and back to front. I have also seen some with no overlap at all with the center holding the shield square over their head with no tilt. However, from the limited info I have read about this formation it appears the way I have it is the more common method. Reason being that this was to prevent gaps in the formation and to keep the shields as close to interlocked as possible. The method I have displayed gives the soldiers in the center a means to see out of the formation and adjust to the pace or shorten up the ranks to maintain the shape of the testudo. If the formation was presented with the shield overlapping the shield behind it then the soldier in front of him and the soldier attempting to peer out would have to open up their shield sorta like a tulip opens in spring. This method is not really feasible and can easily disrupt the formation of the testudo. Not to mention the soldiers in the middle would be entirely blind.

Joe...it's a moot point...the formation is fantastic looking...the figures are fantastic looking...I was never a stickler for complete accuracy...

and whenever playing with these expensive toys we buy...to me...it's a lot about imagination..

just like when I was a child...one night...when I was probably around 7-8 years old...and I was playing with my plastic toy soldiers on the dining room table....my Dad sat down with me...he placed a figure hiding behind a salt shaker and he called it a tree...it worked for me...imagination...you can't beat it...^&grin

the testudo is cool...overlapping in either direction...the testudo is cool...
 
Joe...it's a moot point...the formation is fantastic looking...the figures are fantastic looking...I was never a stickler for complete accuracy...

and whenever playing with these expensive toys we buy...to me...it's a lot about imagination..

just like when I was a child...one night...when I was probably around 7-8 years old...and I was playing with my plastic toy soldiers on the dining room table....my Dad sat down with me...he placed a figure hiding behind a salt shaker and he called it a tree...it worked for me...imagination...you can't beat it...^&grin

the testudo is cool...overlapping in either direction...the testudo is cool...

I think these are good questions Mike.

I hypothesis is that having the shields overlap the other way would cause problems as the troops navigate rough terrain. If you have the front of your shield under the back of the other guys shield and there is a sudden slow down or stop then the front of your shield becomes dangerous to the head (concussion through helmet a la NFL) or arms of the guy in front of you. I think the way it is designed, while not perfect, does allow some visibility and less compression danger. I am assuming they thought this was more important than the little gaps that would appear.

In R W Peake's Marching with Caesar the Testudo is used a fair amount in the assaults in Hispania and Gaul. The character describes how exhausting and difficult it is even for seasoned veterans. Not sure what that means as it is historical fiction, but I found it quite logical.
 
now I more agree more with the overlapping of the shields in the pictures (Hollywood) that Janusz posted as being the logical placement...

I think this would be the more sensible way to overlap them once the testudo is stationary and being attacked...like a reptiles scales...front to back...exposing no weakness and no arrow slit openings...

but again...I'm not such a stickler for accuracy that either way would deter me from enjoying the FL rendition of a testudo...some guys are...but not me...

the FL testudo is pretty cool looking...
 

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