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I second that and raise you a woo hoo!!;) I would love a DD swimming and a Calliope.I also like the sound of the first three versions you've announced Ana,can't wait to add these to my armour divisions.

Rob
 
Does anyone think we should have a poll to help Ana with the decisions on which versions to make?'.Am really excited by HB's Shermans!

Rob
 
Rob said:
Does anyone think we should have a poll to help Ana with the decisions on which versions to make?'.Am really excited by HB's Shermans!

Rob
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She's probably had enough of us - or at least me - but a version with Polish markings at Cassino would be great. A desert version would probably be the most popular. Also, did the Russians get any of these? If so, that would be interesting.
 
Combat said:
She's probably had enough of us - or at least me - but a version with Polish markings at Cassino would be great. A desert version would probably be the most popular. Also, did the Russians get any of these? If so, that would be interesting.
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The Russians got exclusively M4A2 models as they only wanted diesel engines in tanks. They got several sub-versions, i.e. M4A2 75mm "dry stowage", M4A2 75mm with late hull and M4A2 76mm. Unfortunately the M4A1 76mm like HB seems to be planning is not applicable to the Russians. They were primarily used by the US Army in Europe, the British in Europe and Italy, a few by the Polish armored division and a few to the French later on. The M4A1 with 76mm gun came into use with the US Army in mid-July, 1944 in Normandy with the US 2nd and 3rd Armored Divisions. Later deliveries added other units to the list and some deliveries went to the British (who supplied the Polish tanks).

A "desert version" would be an early M4A1 or M4A2 and could be done as a US tank from Tunisia ,also.

HB MIGHT want to consider the M4A2 with 75mm gun and the earlier hull as a possible future production type as these offer a number of paint possibilities. The M4A2 was not favored by the US Army for overseas service, but was used in the US for training (OD with full stars and the white turret stripe), they were supplied to the USSR (delivered in US OD, but the Russians added their markings, and some probably got winter whitewash), to the British (painted for Sicily, Normandy, etc), to the Free French (with marking variations between the Free French 2nd Armored Division that served with Patton in Normandy and the Free French 1st Army that came up from the Mediterranean), and to the USMC in the Pacific (delivered in US Army OD, but some were later camoflage painted). That is quite a few paint jobs and minor detail variations for one basic tank model!

As far as "Polish Shermans" at Cassino - I wasn't aware that the Poles had any of their own tanks at Cassino. I think they had tank support from the British or US Army.

As far as a DD tank, I would love to see one, too. HOWEVER to do one right involves a very complex model. The screens are tricky to model in any scale (I did a US version in 1/72nd scale once) and there is a LOT of bracings and fittings with the screens up or down. The propellers and their drives aren't too hard, but those screens would be a pain to cast correctly - making a DD tank an expensive proposition.

Gary
 
Honour Bound said:
Doug,
The first 3 versions for the first model (Sherman M4A1 76 mm) are:
Winter camo - Normandy
Green - Ardennes
Bi-colour camo (green and earth) - Cotentin, Normandy Ana
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Ana,

A minor point of color detail; for years many books mentioned US tanks having "earth brown" bands over the original olive drab paint. In the last few years more information has come out stating that the standard camouflage for the US First Army was BLACK over olive drab. Most tanks that were identified as "brown and OD" were in fact Black over OD! There may well have been some tanks painted with the earth brown, but the actual standard was flat black. In the US Army the tank crews didn't do their own camouflage like the Germans did - the job was most often done by Engineer Camouflage Battalions, meaning that most often the finish was applied as ordered. So, black over OD would be the correct finish for an M4A1 76mm from Normandy onwards.

Gary
 
Thanks, I wasn't aware of Polish Shermans that early. You learn something new every day!
 
Thank you for all the information, Gary. I'll pass it to the boyz. Thanks.

Unfortunately the CD with the pictures hasn't arrived yet. Maybe for the next batch. Do you have any tracking number on your side with which we could find where the envelope is?

Regards,

Ana
 
Ana,
I wish I had known that sooner. No, I didn't save a tracking number. I will get a new one made up this week and send it off. This time I will get a tracking number and forward it to you.

Gary
 
You should probably send it DHL. It costs a little more but may be worth it in the long run. Plus, you get tracking numbers.
 
Looks like i'm going to have a flock of Shermans before long!.It would be so good to have some of the more rare Shermans as listed previous.I think a Calliope would look stunning along with a troop of other Shermans,really hope this is one version HB choose to make.

Rob
 
Early crew pictures posted on the HB site many months ago.
 

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Nice looking figures!

Ana,

Another batch of CD's is on the way (unless the Argentine giovernment doesn't like photo disks coming in). Please let me know if they arrive. I went with the post due to cost. My local mailing service stated that it would cost $40-$50 USD to get the CDs down there with FedEx or some such and that there is still no guarantee of delivery. I hope you get them, if not, I will take the expensive route.

Gary
 
Thank you, Gary. I'm sure that we'll be luckier this time. I'll let you know as soon as we get the CD.

Thanks!!!

Ana
 
Ana-
Any update on when the first Shermans will be available? I assume there is not much chance they will be available in time for Valley Forge show on May 4. I was hoping George might have some there.
 
No, Doug, Sorry. They won't be ready for Valley Forge. The estimated date is the end of May.

Ana:eek:
 
Thats cool,gives the wife time to get used to the damaged Panther before i introduce Mr Sherman!

Rob;)
 
Sherman lovers and addicts!!!

Don't miss out on getting the book:"SHERMAN A History of the American Medium Tank; HUNNICUTT

It is an expensive book but well worth having.RCM has it on sale for a limited time only

harvey
 
Ana,

Did the second batch of photo disks ever get to you?

Gary Binder
 
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