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The windmill is indeed awesome and definitely appropriate for French North America. Windmills were often used by the French settlers as defensive strongpoints, particularly against Iroquois raids --- very common in French Canada.
 
John mentioned recently that he was going to make another building for the Peninsular War, and it was a windmill, so I was hoping it was a good one....

AND

its brilliant !!!!

Got to get one

John
 
That is really nice looking.

Fraxinus is spot on with the French using these. I think I recall that there were several used as defensive positions at Ticonderoga and it was the real reason behind the St. Francis raid.

So glad to see more FIW buildings. ;-)

Matthew
 
Oh yeah James, there are lots of ruins around here of these stone windmills. Kind of like when I travelled around the south of England. There were so many ruins of Camelot I lost count. :)

We all know how good John's research is. Just give him a ring and ask. Tell him Fraxinus said. :). He is the one I listen to when it comes to buying FIW from John. I am so glad that the Prussians faught at Monongahela. And that mounted Virginia officer, I think his name was ADC Clubset, looks so good behind the Virginia firing line.

Matthew
 
45thdiv said:
Oh yeah James, there are lots of ruins around here of these stone windmills. Kind of like when I travelled around the south of England. There were so many ruins of Camelot I lost count. :)

We all know how good John's research is. Just give him a ring and ask. Tell him Fraxinus said. :). He is the one I listen to when it comes to buying FIW from John. I am so glad that the Prussians faught at Monongahela. And that mounted Virginia officer, I think his name was ADC Clubset, looks so good behind the Virginia firing line.

Matthew
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Oh.... I see :eek:

And there I was getting excited.... I even looked up windmills in Canada and found various...
You guys are kidding me right?....
 
Hi James,

Yes, just a bit of fun since the FIW has had so few releases. Since I try to collect only FIW, I have to have some rationale for my purchase.

I see a great game set up with French defending the windmills against waves of Prussians. The Indians and the Beja can circle the flanks. I think the US 1812 artillery should be able to help defend.

That's would be a crazy "Jenkins" war. But it would look great. :)

Matthew
 
I can't tell if you guys are serious , but fortified windmills were used in Quebec during the French - Indian wars. One was at Anse-au-Foulon (Wolfe's Cove) and anchored the French line in the Battle of Sainte Foy in 1760 in their attempt to retake Quebec City after Wolfe's army captured it in 1759. Yes - there were actually two battles on the Plains of Abraham. The Dumont farmhouse and windmill was fortified and occupied by 5 companies of French Grenadiers. It was the site of a bloody fight when the British attacked and drove out the grenadiers.

And two windmills from the period are still standing in Quebec City.

Terry
 
Thanks Terry for steering us straight. I have become more interested in creating a diorama for the second battle of Quebec than the first and I want to buy the windmill. Now I can combine my two wishes.

Steve
 
Phantom Warrior said:
I can't tell if you guys are serious , but fortified windmills were used in Quebec during the French - Indian wars. One was at Anse-au-Foulon (Wolfe's Cove) and anchored the French line in the Battle of Sainte Foy in 1760 in their attempt to retake Quebec City after Wolfe's army captured it in 1759. Yes - there were actually two battles on the Plains of Abraham. The Dumont farmhouse and windmill was fortified and occupied by 5 companies of French Grenadiers. It was the site of a bloody fight when the British attacked and drove out the grenadiers.

And two windmills from the period are still standing in Quebec City.

Terry
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Greetings Terry,
Is the battle you speak of also known as the Battle of Sillery fought April 28 1760, or another engagement in the French attempt in retake Quebec? I'd like to learn more about this fight around the fortified farmhouse and windmill. With JJD producing French line troops including grenadiers in the near future - I can see some great dio possiblities for FIW.
 
Thanks for the info Terry. Do you have pictures or a link to what the farm looked like.

For my part, I was just kidding around. I have to have some explanation for the purchase. :)

I did buy the monks firing to use with St. Francis.

Matthew
 
Dragoon said:
Greetings Terry,
Is the battle you speak of also known as the Battle of Sillery fought April 28 1760, or another engagement in the French attempt in retake Quebec? I'd like to learn more about this fight around the fortified farmhouse and windmill. With JJD producing French line troops including grenadiers in the near future - I can see some great dio possiblities for FIW.
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It's the same battle. It is known by several names. The narby woods the Frencch emerged from are the Sillery Woods. Some of the troops and canon from the first battle as produced by JJD can be used in the 2nd battle as they were in both battles. La Regimente de la Sarre is one example of JJD figures that were at both battles. The fortified farmhouse and windmill anchored the left wing of the French line and was occupied by 5 companies of Grenadiers.

Here is a documentary film clip of the battle which gives a quick look at the windmill and describes the fight for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MtxmbrBfoLU#t=88s

I'm pretty sure the film used one of the remaining windmills in the film nearby at Charlesbourg and I am pretty sure that John Jenkins saw it on one of his trips..

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The historical record has the order of battle listing the regiments and canon which took part on both sides. There are still 9 standing windmills in Quebec built before the French-Indian Wars in 1750 and I don't know how many more were destroyed but the Dumont windmill is one that no longer exists. the Quebec windmill designs are copied from the ones in Europe in the 1600s and 1700s.

Terry
 
45thdiv said:
Thanks for the info Terry. Do you have pictures or a link to what the farm looked like.

For my part, I was just kidding around. I have to have some explanation for the purchase. :)

I did buy the monks firing to use with St. Francis.

Matthew
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I don't know of any images of the farm. I don't even know when it was destroyed or the exact location. There were so many windmills in the area ^&grin^&grin

Terry
 
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Hi James,
Thanks for posting the picture of the JJD windmill.
Here's some info about Moulin de Pointe-aux-Trembles. A windmill in Montreal.

The Windmill Pointe-aux-Trembles is one of the last 18 windmills of Quebec in Canada . It is located in the Pointe-aux-Trembles , Borough of Rivière-des-Prairies-Pointe-aux-Trembles in the east of the island of Montreal . Its exact address is 11630 Notre Dame is.

Built in 1719, it operated until 1866.

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Also here's a link to a list of windmills in Quebec:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_windmills_in_Canada#Windmills_in_Quebec

So you can safely use the JJD windmill in the FIW

Pete
 
And just to reinforce the idea of towers, here is one that still exists right on the Plains of Abraham - it's a Martello tower and I know JJ has seen this one. There are 4 of them built in 1810. Although they were never in combat, you could use it in the War of 1812 scenarios.

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Here is one description of the Dumont windmill and battle for it.

Intense fighting also took place at the Dumont mill located north of the promontory, along the chemin Sainte-Foy. Some 10 metres high, with strong walls, the mill offered excellent protection to the fighting soldiers, making it a coveted location. At first the mill was taken by the French Grenadiers before they were dislodged by the British Light Infantry. The Régiment de Béarn counterattacked, and once again the French gained control of the place until the British Infantry 35[SUP]th[/SUP] Regiment Grenadiers managed to reverse the situation[SUP]143[/SUP]. These combats were waged hand-to-hand, using bayonets and knives.

Terry
 
The Dumont Mill (windmill) location was confirmed in an archeologic dig only in 2011. It's located in a park with a big monument so it is easy to find. The mill location is right near the monument.

If you go to google maps and type in Parc des Braves, Quebec City, Quebec It will show the location.

Here is a note on the dig.
http://www.ccbn-nbc.gc.ca/documents/PressRelease-ArchaeologicalDigs-NBC-2011.pdf
 
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Lots of great stuff here. The only thing I see is that John's windmill might be too short.

Maybe James will get John to do another windmill to scale for FIW?
 
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