jager7080
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This subject has been mentioned & discussed in toy soldier circles for some time...Since we are heading into a new year , i wanted to make note of the magnitude of the involvement of Germany's allied nation's in the war effort...I have started collecting Hiriart (glossy) recently & have been really amazed at the range of their release's...It has really made me think why this cannot be done in the Matte toy soldier world...
I know the argument that only what is sure to sell well is made...But how can you say if a line such as Hungarian or Slovak or Romanian unit's will sell well if nobody has ever made them before ? I believe we as collector's are intelligent & bound to history as it occurred...Where are these nation's represented in your collection or in your diorama's ??? It is like they never existed at all...just some notes i found online as follows :
In spring 1942 Germany's need for more manpower on the Eastern Front demanded a maximum effort and the Hungarians despatched to the front the 2nd Hungarian Army with 200,000 men, consisting of nine light infantry divisions (two instead of three infantry regiments each), and the pride of the Honved, the 1st Armoured Division with 83 Czech LT38 ( = PzKpfw 38(t) ) tanks, two Toldi light tanks (Swedish, but made under licence in Hungary) and 22 German Panzer Mk I tanks
For the German invasion of the Soviet Union the Slovaks placed at the disposal of the Germans a light brigade of 3,500 men which was partially motorised and included a battalion of Czech light tanks (= PzKpfw 38(t) ), and an army corps of two infantry divisions and divisional troops. The total strength of the Slovak commitment in July 1941 was 40,393 men and 1,346 officers.
In return for German help in the Spanish Civil War, Franco agreed to the formation of a Spanish Volunteer Division of 18,000 men, most of whom were regular soldiers, to participate in the 'crusade' against Bolshevism on the Eastern Front.
On 25 July 1941 the Spanish 'Blue' (Azul) Division became the 250th Infantry Division of the German Army.
On 2 July 1942 Romanian formations forming part of the German 11th Army took Sevastopol, and then moved to the Don region. In the summer of 1942, the Romanian Army on the Eastern Front consisted of the 3rd and 4th Armies (13 infantry, one armoured and two cavalry divisions), two divisions in the Crimea, and six divisions in the Caucasus. Also on active duty were a further 26 divisions on security duties behind the front
There is also a commonality among these nation's...Equipment !! As an example all these nation's used the 38(t)...Would it not be possible to launch a mini series of say six troops for each nation with a 38(t) badged as their nation ?? I for one would love to see something like that happen...Andy/K&C developed a 38(t) because we as collector's showed interest in one...
I am hoping at some point this year...2014...We may have something new for the FOB line !!
Any Thought's ? Please feel free to comment...
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to ALL !!
Joe
I know the argument that only what is sure to sell well is made...But how can you say if a line such as Hungarian or Slovak or Romanian unit's will sell well if nobody has ever made them before ? I believe we as collector's are intelligent & bound to history as it occurred...Where are these nation's represented in your collection or in your diorama's ??? It is like they never existed at all...just some notes i found online as follows :
In spring 1942 Germany's need for more manpower on the Eastern Front demanded a maximum effort and the Hungarians despatched to the front the 2nd Hungarian Army with 200,000 men, consisting of nine light infantry divisions (two instead of three infantry regiments each), and the pride of the Honved, the 1st Armoured Division with 83 Czech LT38 ( = PzKpfw 38(t) ) tanks, two Toldi light tanks (Swedish, but made under licence in Hungary) and 22 German Panzer Mk I tanks
For the German invasion of the Soviet Union the Slovaks placed at the disposal of the Germans a light brigade of 3,500 men which was partially motorised and included a battalion of Czech light tanks (= PzKpfw 38(t) ), and an army corps of two infantry divisions and divisional troops. The total strength of the Slovak commitment in July 1941 was 40,393 men and 1,346 officers.
In return for German help in the Spanish Civil War, Franco agreed to the formation of a Spanish Volunteer Division of 18,000 men, most of whom were regular soldiers, to participate in the 'crusade' against Bolshevism on the Eastern Front.
On 25 July 1941 the Spanish 'Blue' (Azul) Division became the 250th Infantry Division of the German Army.
On 2 July 1942 Romanian formations forming part of the German 11th Army took Sevastopol, and then moved to the Don region. In the summer of 1942, the Romanian Army on the Eastern Front consisted of the 3rd and 4th Armies (13 infantry, one armoured and two cavalry divisions), two divisions in the Crimea, and six divisions in the Caucasus. Also on active duty were a further 26 divisions on security duties behind the front
There is also a commonality among these nation's...Equipment !! As an example all these nation's used the 38(t)...Would it not be possible to launch a mini series of say six troops for each nation with a 38(t) badged as their nation ?? I for one would love to see something like that happen...Andy/K&C developed a 38(t) because we as collector's showed interest in one...
I am hoping at some point this year...2014...We may have something new for the FOB line !!
Any Thought's ? Please feel free to comment...
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to ALL !!
Joe
and if you can do the Handschar unit than anything is possible. I am guessing you would do a mix of eastern front allies as you would not want whole dispatches covered by individual countries. Personally I would love to see the 1939 Poles including Calvary for the next FOB release but this is definitely something that I would buy if it came out. My biggest concern is this board perception represents the hardcore TS fan and not necessarily the mass market which would prefer more germans, british and americans. Technically you could add the Bulgarians if you wanted to the mix but I am guessing they were more occupying forces in Yugloslavia despite declaring war on just the western allies but not the Soviet Union.
