The Russian front and other ranges. (1 Viewer)

[Simpson & his donkey.]

Is it just me or is there a flood of Russian tanks and soldiers all of a sudden. I can remember not so long ago that it was said they didn't sell and wouldn't be revisited . Also market garden was washed up and now more to be released. I think this comes down to the market getting more competitive with so many more companies releasing great lines and K&C has to change to compete to match for the share of the dollars in these ranges. This is a good thing for collectors and I hope one day they will return to the pacific the same way they have revisited the Russian front.
What are your thoughts guy's. Simmo. {sm4}

 

[Rob]

Yes Simmo, East is the new West! I remember the launch of K&C's Russian series way back in London all those years back (I got the T34 and Tank riders). I'm very glad for all Eastern front collectors that Andy has returned to this theater of warfare and I think I'm going to fold and get the new T34. As for the other companies good luck to them too, they're not for me but choice is so good in this hobby and room for everyone!

Rob

 

[waynepoo]

It must be a nightmare trying to figure out what will sell and what won't, will Amercians buy this or will Brits buy that and so on. One sure thing even if it is a small market compared to the rest is Aussies will buy Aussie figures, a lay down misere there. The rush of Soviet figures is a good thing for those who have been crying out for more as is the return to MG, I like to think it is down to Andy & Co listening to feedback.
Wayne.

 

[PanzerAce1944]

Some great points made. ! There is no doubt that WWII. ETO is an extremely popular series. Last year I caused a
Stink and a holler wanting Russian releases to be done again. A lot of debating went around back then, but look
Where we are now. ! I have a bit to add from the last releases and will definately snap up the winter coat clad Ivan's,
And At least one of the winter. T-34's......and all of those grey and Bulge Wehrmacht. On that note I would bet the ACW And AWI collectors will soon be cheering too! Part of the capabilities of K&C to produce so many new releases Month after month. !

 

[Simpson & his donkey.]

Some great points made. ! There is no doubt that WWII. ETO is an extremely popular series. Last year I caused a
Stink and a holler wanting Russian releases to be done again. A lot of debating went around back then, but look
Where we are now. ! I have a bit to add from the last releases and will definately snap up the winter coat clad Ivan's,
And At least one of the winter. T-34's......and all of those grey and Bulge Wehrmacht. On that note I would bet the ACW And AWI collectors will soon be cheering too! Part of the capabilities of K&C to produce so many new releases Month after month. !

Yes mate you and me both asked long ago for more Russian front releases. I am still wanting a Pacific front to be made by K&C so it looks like never say never. Simmo.

 

[Rob]

Yes mate you and me both asked long ago for more Russian front releases. I am still wanting a Pacific front to be made by K&C so it looks like never say never. Simmo.

To this day I don't understand why the Pacific is not a huge seller with our American cousins, they are so proud of the US Marines and when HBO released their tv series a while back I thought there would be a deluge of requests. But as you say Simmo never say never, after all Market Garden is coming back (sorry Ron!^&grin:wink2

Rob

 

[Simpson & his donkey.]

To this day I don't understand why the Pacific is not a huge seller with our American cousins, they are so proud of the US Marines and when HBO released their tv series a while back I thought there would be a deluge of requests. But as you say Simmo never say never, after all Market Garden is coming back (sorry Ron!^&grin:wink2

Rob

Sorry Ron. Laughing out loud. Sorry just fun. Simmo.

 

[Rob]

It must be a nightmare trying to figure out what will sell and what won't, will Amercians buy this or will Brits buy that and so on. One sure thing even if it is a small market compared to the rest is Aussies will buy Aussie figures, a lay down misere there. The rush of Soviet figures is a good thing for those who have been crying out for more as is the return to MG, I like to think it is down to Andy & Co listening to feedback.
Wayne.

Wayne, this Brit will buy this and that, oh and that and that and that^&grin:wink2: As long as the wife agrees:wink2:

Some great points made. ! There is no doubt that WWII. ETO is an extremely popular series. Last year I caused a
Stink and a holler wanting Russian releases to be done again. A lot of debating went around back then, but look
Where we are now. ! I have a bit to add from the last releases and will definately snap up the winter coat clad Ivan's,
And At least one of the winter. T-34's......and all of those grey and Bulge Wehrmacht. On that note I would bet the ACW And AWI collectors will soon be cheering too! Part of the capabilities of K&C to produce so many new releases Month after month. !

Couldn't agree more PA, K&C release such a wide and in depth series of ranges every month its quite something. Even a company such as Britains with its massive History and pedigree doesn't seem to issue as much.

Sorry Ron. Laughing out loud. Sorry just fun. Simmo.

Simmo, he knows we are kidding him, he gave us Arnhem collectors stick for years (^&grin) now suddenly he's heading for the air raid shelter as its his turn for flak:wink2:

Rob

 

[Mitch]

Not sure there was much of a stink really?? many collectors just stated what andy had said about making russian sets over a period of years . K&C have had to move with the change in collectors tastes no more no less. Next year who knows the russian front could be dead and a surge back to the western front or, even Italy and other neglected areas of the war.

Not sure I agree with the deluge opinion there seems to be a few sets but, not at the expense of other ranges and campaigns. The west is still being addressed with great Brit sets and, some earlier war style germans so, the west is still heavily addressed. Now we have a wider focus than had been seen previously.
Mitch

Some great points made. ! There is no doubt that WWII. ETO is an extremely popular series. Last year I caused a
Stink and a holler wanting Russian releases to be done again. A lot of debating went around back then, but look
Where we are now. ! I have a bit to add from the last releases and will definately snap up the winter coat clad Ivan's,
And At least one of the winter. T-34's......and all of those grey and Bulge Wehrmacht. On that note I would bet the ACW And AWI collectors will soon be cheering too! Part of the capabilities of K&C to produce so many new releases Month after month. !

 

[Larry Allen]

To this day I don't understand why the Pacific is not a huge seller with our American cousins, they are so proud of the US Marines and when HBO released their tv series a while back I thought there would be a deluge of requests. But as you say Simmo never say never, after all Market Garden is coming back (sorry Ron!^&grin:wink2

Rob

I am perplexed also Rob.

Maybe it is my area that I live in, but the WWII Pacific Theater is always a very popular and discussed era. As everyone knows, my first love is AWI, but given any opportunity to get a foot into the releases of the Pacific (that isn’t going to cost me a kidney AND a liver) I would jump at. Americans view the WWII ETO and the WWII PTO with different sets of emotions. (Well at least my generation anyway).

The Japanese were hated and needed to be destroyed. All the average American of 1941 knew was that the Japanese attacked sleeping sailors. The Germans hadn’t done anything to us, so most Americans were apathetic towards Europe and Hitler. If Hitler hadn’t declared war on the US then we (most likely) would have go gotten into Europe for a while.

K&C only made something like 30 SANDS OF IWO JIMA sets and then stopped. I thought the figures were excellent and there was so much more that could have been done. I had hoped with FOB79 and FOB80 and then (USMC001-10) there might a renewed interest on K&C behalf …. but alas.

The potential is there for a large series of untouched sets in the PTO …… US Marines, Chinese, Philippine Resistance Fighters, Australian forces, Flying Tigers, Naval Figures, PT Boat and crews and so much more.

So Andy when you get tired of the ETO there is years worth of openings in PTO

Larry

 

[Shadowfax]

I am perplexed also Rob.

Maybe it is my area that I live in, but the WWII Pacific Theater is always a very popular and discussed era. As everyone knows, my first love is AWI, but given any opportunity to get a foot into the releases of the Pacific (that isn’t going to cost me a kidney AND a liver) I would jump at. Americans view the WWII ETO and the WWII PTO with different sets of emotions. (Well at least my generation anyway).

The Japanese were hated and needed to be destroyed. All the average American of 1941 knew was that the Japanese attacked sleeping sailors. The Germans hadn’t done anything to us, so most Americans were apathetic towards Europe and Hitler. If Hitler hadn’t declared war on the US then we (most likely) would have go gotten into Europe for a while.

K&C only made something like 30 SANDS OF IWO JIMA sets and then stopped. I thought the figures were excellent and there was so much more that could have been done. I had hoped with FOB79 and FOB80 and then (USMC001-10) there might a renewed interest on K&C behalf …. but alas.

The potential is there for a large series of untouched sets in the PTO …… US Marines, Chinese, Philippine Resistance Fighters, Australian forces, Flying Tigers, Naval Figures, PT Boat and crews and so much more.

So Andy when you get tired of the ETO there is years worth of openings in PTO

Larry

I think it is not so much that Andy not wanting to go into the pacific or any other topics but it is just a matter of timing. When the voices for the pacific front gets loud enough, you can be sure that the marines and japs will make a comeback, in a time like now where everyone wants grey Germans, some Russians, market garden etc you can rest assured pacific will not be considered in the short run.

 

[Blowtorch]

To this day I don't understand why the Pacific is not a huge seller with our American cousins,

the atrocities & mutual hatred. it was personal

 

[Thompyt]

I am glad there was a ruckus for Eastern front; I got a great T-34 out of it. Now when they make another T34-85, I will have an addition to my collection. I can understand the lack of interest for PTO. A lot is on the water, with little tank support (both sides), the Japanese were not really seen, LVT & LVCP are huge......... Then you have the A/C a Zero, Zeke, maybe a Betty, then a Corsair...........

 

[Lo1863]

On that note I would bet the ACW And AWI collectors will soon be cheering too! Part of the capabilities of K&C to produce so many new releases Month after month.

I hope to be cheering next year! :smile2:

 

[vividgraphx]

I agree that if the collectors speak up like they did with Russians and Market Garden we could see a return to the Pacific. I thought the Japanese sold out pretty fast. I tried purchasing them from several different dealers not long at all after they were released but they were all sold out. Also if you look at their prices on the secondary market they are going for a lot of money. So i dont agree they were not good sellers. Also the Pacific is not just for American collectors. British and Australians should have interest too as they played important parts. And for Americans they can produce Marines,Army,Navy,even the Coast Guard. I have no doubt they would all be big sellers like the first sets were. Keitj

 

[PanzerAce1944]

I support the Pacific theme 100%. Even though a ETO enthusiast and collector,with K&C's quality and sculpts getting better all the time they would look awesome !
I would not be surprised in the least bit if the "Pacific" comes back to life if collector interest dictates. K&C surely has the ability to put out a good range if the demand exists. :wink2:

Would most likely add a few Japanese and U.S. Marines myself for good measure.

 

[Mitch]

I don't think its the ability to do it thats important its whether there is the interest and support for such a range. Its a big ask to make a range if there is no real market for it. I find the russian theatre more interesting than the western front and, similar with the Italian theatre but, very little gets done for the latter and, it was surprising to hear that sales and interest were not huge from K&C;s point of view.

Things may and do change look at the vietnam ranges starting from FL thats always been seen as either to close or not really interesting as a conflict and now we are seeing a range released. I would think that the manufacturers will have a pretty fair idea what is a seller and what is a bit risky for them.

If they do venture to the far east I would like to see Burma and similar areas addressed with Chindits etc rather than just US marines and japanese. It was a large conflict with many areas that would be good to see some figures from.
Mitch

 

[PanzerAce1944]

I hope to be cheering next year! :smile2:

Lo 1863, I think there is good news coming for ACW collectors.Look at all of the retirements in this range. A good indicator of some fresh sets to be released,
replacing all of the recent retirements ^&grin

 

[Lo1863]

Lo 1863, I think there is good news coming for ACW collectors.Look at all of the retirements in this range. A good indicator of some fresh sets to be released,
replacing all of the recent retirements ^&grin

When I sent Andy a message asking about new ACW he said they are planned for next year. Just a matter of time...yeah...TIME. ugh! :rolleyes2:

 

[Stryker II]

I am perplexed also Rob.

Maybe it is my area that I live in, but the WWII Pacific Theater is always a very popular and discussed era. As everyone knows, my first love is AWI, but given any opportunity to get a foot into the releases of the Pacific (that isn’t going to cost me a kidney AND a liver) I would jump at. Americans view the WWII ETO and the WWII PTO with different sets of emotions. (Well at least my generation anyway).

The Japanese were hated and needed to be destroyed. All the average American of 1941 knew was that the Japanese attacked sleeping sailors. The Germans hadn’t done anything to us, so most Americans were apathetic towards Europe and Hitler. If Hitler hadn’t declared war on the US then we (most likely) would have go gotten into Europe for a while.

K&C only made something like 30 SANDS OF IWO JIMA sets and then stopped. I thought the figures were excellent and there was so much more that could have been done. I had hoped with FOB79 and FOB80 and then (USMC001-10) there might a renewed interest on K&C behalf …. but alas.

The potential is there for a large series of untouched sets in the PTO …… US Marines, Chinese, Philippine Resistance Fighters, Australian forces, Flying Tigers, Naval Figures, PT Boat and crews and so much more.

So Andy when you get tired of the ETO there is years worth of openings in PTO

Larry

I totally agree with Larry!.........................