Things that are amazing that we don't own! (3 Viewers)

[McFuglas]

It is the opposite. If figure parts were pinned with small rods, the 90 and 75 mm figure will be much stronger than the 54 mm figure (more often than not only glued together without reinforcements). Also, since the metal is thicker in 90 and 75 mm, there are less chances that you will receive a figure with bent parts.

Thanks Alex, I'll be sure to ask that they indeed pin parts.

One (rather expensive) 90mm figure was described to me as being reinforced on the inside with special nails.
I'm not exactly sure what this means and there may have been something lost in translation.
Does anyone happen to know more about this practice?

 

[joesgis]

Thanks Alex, I'll be sure to ask that they indeed pin parts.

One (rather expensive) 90mm figure was described to me as being reinforced on the inside with special nails.
I'm not exactly sure what this means and there may have been something lost in translation.
Does anyone happen to know more about this practice?

They're just referring to the brass pins.


Joe

 

[McFuglas]

They're just referring to the brass pins.


Joe

Oh I see, of course.

Maybe I should learn some Russian

Thanks for that

 

[Alex]

Another tip. I do own a few riding knights on horse. Some of them are only attached to the base by one single pin going through the leg of the horse. I do not suggest buying expensive figures similar to those ones since there is the risk that, with time and metal fatigue, the horse and its rider will collapse under their own weight.

cheers

alex

Oh I see, of course.

Maybe I should learn some Russian

Thanks for that

 

[VIRIATO]

These threads are turning into a treasure trove of information for new collectors like myself. Lets face it, at these prices learning about connoisseur figures "the hard way" can be a pretty brutal way to proceed.



A timely comment for me as I was thinking of taking this route (ie commissioning kits).
Were your bad experiences restricted to any one particular scale?
I mean, are 90mm or 75mm kits significantly more fragile than 54mm kits and therefore potentially problematic?

Have other members had problems with commissioned kits?

Any thoughts or comments would be much appreciated.

Doug

Hi,
My problems happenned with 54mm figures. They were solved but I had to return the figures for repair and pay for return shipping. And with one of them still had to glue back a shield. Still some of the Russians or Ukranians seem to use foam and others send parts for the customers to pin together. It's always a learning process I guess...

Paulo

 

[McFuglas]

I do own a few riding knights on horse. Some of them are only attached to the base by one single pin going through the leg of the horse. I do not suggest buying expensive figures similar to those ones since there is the risk that, with time and metal fatigue, the horse and its rider will collapse under their own weight.

This topic was recently raised (albeit briefly) on a FL thread (AG016-023 Alexander and Companion Cavalry) though not specifically in relation to Knights.

The horses of Knights, Crusaders etc often have capes which are made of solid metal, potentially making the figures even more top heavy than say Nap Cavalry.

Again, is the risk of metal fatigue greater at 75/90mm because of the increased weight, or do the larger figures also allow for a thicker steel rod and so better support?

This topic probably deserves its own thread as its pretty darn important if you collect mounted figures!

 

[Alex]

I remember seeing one russian 90mm figure with a broken leg.. the leg just snapped into two pieces and it was not pinned properly.
All figures can fall under their own weight even if there is a pin in the leg (54,75 or 90 mm).
There are two ways to pin the legs. The best way is when they insert a pin during the casting process so the pin can be very very long and will go inside the body of the horse.
Alternatively, you can pin the leg after the casting procress by drilling a hole but depending on the horse, sometimes you can't go very far with your drilling.
So, for me it is best to avoid all horses with only one leg supporting the weight (two legs most of the time is ok if the weight is well distributed). Also, even if the figure is very heavy, it doesn't matter as long as the weight is well distributed between the 3 or 4 legs.
cheers
alex

This topic was recently raised (albeit briefly) on a FL thread (AG016-023 Alexander and Companion Cavalry) though not specifically in relation to Knights.

The horses of Knights, Crusaders etc often have capes which are made of solid metal, potentially making the figures even more top heavy than say Nap Cavalry.

Again, is the risk of metal fatigue greater at 75/90mm because of the increased weight, or do the larger figures also allow for a thicker steel rod and so better support?

This topic probably deserves its own thread as its pretty darn important if you collect mounted figures!

 

[joesgis]

Another tip. I do own a few riding knights on horse. Some of them are only attached to the base by one single pin going through the leg of the horse. I do not suggest buying expensive figures similar to those ones since there is the risk that, with time and metal fatigue, the horse and its rider will collapse under their own weight.

cheers

alex

Hi Alex,
This has always been in big concern of mine too. Some of my favorite mounted pieces feature a horse on one leg so that only a single pin supports the horse and rider. So far I feel I have been lucky that none of my mounted pieces that are designed like this have shown any signs of metal fatigue. Have any of your mounted pieces like this collapsed on their own weight?
I have all of mine on display and sometimes wonder if maybe it's best to put the ones I'm most concerned with back in their boxes for safe keeping before anything bad happens. Then, of course, I think I'm being paranoid and just need to relax and enjoy them on display since nothing catastrophic has happened so far (after many years of being on display). But it just so happens that of the four pieces I'm most concerned about, three are elite and very rare and the 4th a prototype painted entirely unique. This adds to the concern because they are all essentially irreplaceable.
I think most of my worry is born from a 54mm figure on foot I have of a knight running on one leg, and it has indeed suffered metal fatigue. But I suspect this is because the figure was weakened by possibly being mishandled in the past and pressed forward/down and then straightened out again, thereby disturbing the integrity of the metal. I'm not the original owner of the figure, so it's hard to know.
On a related note I know I've read on this forum before that FL collectors have some of the same concerns. I have some of FL's mounted pieces on one leg and have not had any issues with them collapsing either.
I guess there is no easy answer because there are so many variables involved (pin diameter and length, how the piece is balanced, how much actual weight is the pin supporting [weight distribution/case by case basis], the quality of the casting [porous metal?], the skill of the person who drilled the appendage, and does the hole ID to pin OD clearance have a close tolerance?
Joe

 

[McFuglas]

This one should be a big seller.
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I spotted this today while roaming their website!
Not sure what scale it is.
I wonder if they do David Hasselhoff......{sm3}