Top Ten "Workhorses" (1 Viewer)

Chris I'm sorry to hear about your son being ill. It kills me inside when my little man is sick. Believe me I understand the whole sleep deprivation thing. I think every parent does. With my son now it is a pretty rare occurance, but when he was smaller it was every night. I feel your pain.
 
Chris

I feel we need to credit you with the invention of a new corps of cavalry, the battle donkeys! LOL :D But would they make the top ten?:confused:

You still haven't closed to the top 3. For WW2 my tuppence would be the deuce, the liberty ship and the dakota. The deuce not only kept the western allies moving but gave strategic level of mobility to the Russians through lend lease. Without the Liberty ship no kit would have got to Europe. The dakota because of the airlift and resupply capability with impact on D-Day drops but also at Bastogne etc etc - and it looks nice......As for the horse, full recognition but the dakota looks nicer....:) I think the Indian and maybe some Australian Divisions would prefer mules anyway.

Hope the little one is OK (wait until they get to 6'5" like my baby. Best wishes.
 
Hey I am 6'5" ! Did I remember being on the Jeremiah O'Brien. She is moored in the Bay Area. Henry J Kaiser knew what he was doing.
 
Hello fellas:

First of all, thanks for the kind sympathies for my son. Please note it is my 11 year old who has been ill and why I missed WW2 weekend this weekend:eek:. My littlest one, Andrew, my 17 month old is the one who keeps me up and actually, looking at it now, it is probably a good thing as he just cries for more milk at night. He is on a tremendous growth spurt and I think his metabolism makes him need to eat every 4 hours. He was almost readmitted to the hospital because he wasn't gaining weight there a month or so after he was born. The doctor said he predicted he would grow to 5'10". My wife said I had this look on my face like Andrew was broken or something- we are all 6 footers or more here in my family :D

So yeah Pat, he may be that 6'5" mighty man.;)

The battle donkey corps will have to move to the Top Ten tanks as they would be too aggressive for our transport battalion :)

Okay- well Pat, you suggested cutting it to 3. It's interesting that you should choose 3 as there are 3 ways to transport men and material- land, sea or air. I think we can clearly say, for WW2 that the allies dominated all three modes of the logistics train which I believe significantly improved our odds. On the sea, we have the Liberty ships, in the air, the Dakotas and on the ground, the deuces. So, if I had to cut it down to one, well, the Liberty takes the cake. The allies were on the offensive in all theaters of the war- the Liberty ships were the first cog in the line and got the troops, LCVs, Amtraks, Deuces, etc to the fight. Looking at it from the Axis perspective, in 1944, they were in a defensive posture so to pick the equivalent of a Liberty Ship as their most important workhorse might not work. I believe, for the Germans especially, that a solid truck transport would have been their most important logistical machine so perhaps the krupp or Blitz would have been theirs. My point is, it really depends on what your forces are doing to pick a top dog in logistics and by examining the allies, I feel the Liberty was the "Top Horse" if you will.

So yeah, Shiloh probably got it right earlier on when he mentioned that the Germans can't win wars because they mess up the logistics train. Made some of the best tanks, infantry weapons and fighters but seemed to be lacking in the logistics fight.
 
Hi Chris,

Hope you boy is better and the little guys lets you rest!

Good post on the logistics. I agree but the big problem for the Germans was doubled in Russia because they didnt have paved roads in any kind of quantity and the guage of the rail roads were different than that of the rest of europe so they had it pretty bad not like Belgium or France. Please dont get me wrong here I am not defending them just making an observation on conditions. We experienced equally horrible conditions in the CBI theater and the Pacific Campaign in general that we managed to over come effectively much to do with the Liberty Ships and deuces.

All the best

Dave
 
So yeah, Shiloh probably got it right earlier on when he mentioned that the Germans can't win wars because they mess up the logistics train. Made some of the best tanks, infantry weapons and fighters but seemed to be lacking in the logistics fight.

Don't forget that US industry was well away from the war, while the Germans were being bombed day and night, yet their production still increased.
 
Good last few posts - excellent point about the Pacific - the seebees really did a good job and the US engineers generally seemed to be excellent.
 

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