Louis Badolato
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Very cool, Al!
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I AM STILL WONDERING WHY I ALERTED YOU TO THIS AND DID NOT BUY IT MYSELF. I GUESS I KNEW YOU WERE TRYING TO COLLECT ALL THE WW1 SETS AND I WAS NOT ATTEMPTING THAT YET BUT I AM NOW
THAT SET COULD BE A ONE OFF AS I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE OR SINCE
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Well, in my view, while one-off sets are surely unique and attractive, the flip side is that if no more than one set was ever produced—and this one is already in someone's “forever” possession—there’s really no reason or hope to find another. That can be a bit discouraging for collectors. As we all know, the thrill is in the chase.
That’s why sets like the The Lion (Crimea Ship), Alamo Wall, or Dr. Watson in Maiwand are more appealing to me as a collector—they’re rare, but not unattainable.
That said, don’t get me wrong—I’d still consider a one-off if the opportunity and price were right.
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Thank you for sharing those photos and the information about the coronation sets! I like the variation between the robes and the king with and without his hat!
I noticed in the photos that I previously saw, and again in the photos you shared, that:
1) the scale of the attendants and riders seems a little too big next to the horses; and
2) the carriage middle section of the carriage appears to be too close to the floor.
It was these two points that made me decide not to purchase the set I previously saw. I thought that the issue relating to the carriage may have been due to damage or repairs and as I couldn’t find any other photos as a point of reference I didn’t buy the set.
It may just be me or the angle of the photos. But in any case, these are great sets and I hope to now find one for my collection!
I noticed in the photos that I previously saw, and again in the photos you shared, that:
1) the scale of the attendants and riders seems a little too big next to the horses; and
2) the carriage middle section of the carriage appears to be too close to the floor.
It was these two points that made me decide not to purchase the set I previously saw. I thought that the issue relating to the carriage may have been due to damage or repairs and as I couldn’t find any other photos as a point of reference I didn’t buy the set.
It may just be me or the angle of the photos. But in any case, these are great sets and I hope to now find one for my collection!
boerboy
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I’ve enclosed photos of both carriages. Even if the bottom looks, as you said, a bit close to the ground—this is actually a different and correct Coronation-type coach, not the Diana and Charles Landau carriage. Len was always very particular about the small details, and it shows here.
In fact, the proportions look accurate when compared with the footmen figures—the overall scale is consistent, and the coach sits at a believable height relative to their stance.
For historical context, the British Coronation Coaches—such as the Gold State Coach—are traditionally pulled by Windsor Greys, ceremonial horses known for their strength and composed temperament. These horses typically stand between 16.1 to 17 hands high (a hand = 4 inches), which is approximately 65 to 68 inches (165–173 cm) at the withers.
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I am grateful for those photos - very good to see the two carriages side by side. As I said, it may just be my perception of the scale or the camera angles that made me think the scale was a little off. I agree that the attention to detail in Trophy sets in general is really good. I also think the last version made by Britains was very nice indeed. I had the pleasure of visiting the Royal Mews in London and seeing the Coronation Coach for myself. Photos from my visit are attached.
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boerboy
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Thank you for the photos you posted—very interesting indeed. Both carriages shown on my photos are made by Trophy. I have both versions, still in their original mailer boxes that Len used for large sets. I got them brand new from Jim Hillestad of Toy Soldier Museum many years ago.
I also agree that the carriages could benefit from a slightly elevated bottom—but it is what it is.
TheDurbarMan
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You are very lucky to have both. Do you have photos of the Trophy Queen Elizabeth coronation coach?Thank you for the photos you posted—very interesting indeed. Both carriages shown on my photos are made by Trophy. I have both versions, still in their original mailer boxes that Len used for large sets. I got them brand new from Jim Hillestad of Toy Soldier Museum many years ago.
I also agree that the carriages could benefit from a slightly elevated bottom—but it is what it is.
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I don’t believe Trophy ever made one. Trooping the Colour was her only appearance in the Trophy range, to the best of my knowledge.
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Thanks for clarifying. I assumed BPP1 – Queen Elizabeth Coronation Set was a coronation coach. Do you have photos of BPP1?
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Hi the photos appear to be missing.
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Thank you!
Louis Badolato
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As I recall, you did let me know, but I was already the high bidder on the auction. I thanked you for the tip, but let you know I was already bidding. Thanks again, though! I appreciate when friends pass on something they know I want.