UK Rememberance day today. (1 Viewer)

Amen Rob.

My words will never come close to expressing the gratitude I feel to all the dead and injured who have fought with honour and with the good cause in their heart. Sometimes strangely against one another.
 

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But thank you is not enough. When I look at this young man ... nothing is enough. In some way, it's beyond me.
 

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I,ll add my thanks to veterans from Britain and The US also ,here is a quote from Kemal Atatürk relating to the dardanelles campaign in ww1.

"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours... You the mothers who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. Having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
 
Thanks to the veterans of the US and Britain. Also, thanks to all the veterans from all the countries that keep freedom alive. I went to a ceremony today and viewed veterans from WWll thru Iraq at the town memorial. Leadmen
 
Thanks to all you guys who posted on this thread,so good to share our gratitude and respect of those who gave everything so we can live in freedom and enjoy the life we have today.God bless them.

Rob
 
.......and Tony, some of us have been out all day working and hence the late posting.[/QUOTE]

Jeff

No problem at all i appreciate that we all have jobs etc..........however when i wrote my statment there were 55 people on TF and still only six different people had commented.

So not a direct gripe...........and yes i also appreciate that there are people doing a mass of other things to remember, that do not include posting on TF.

However i was and still am (24hrs later) surprised that there are only say 10 - 15 people that have commented on here. And not forgetting the post i put on on rememberance Sunday where only two of us commented! yet a post about sport , jokes or somthing similar (all important and part of society and social interaction accepted) gets a far higher hit rate.

I think my surprise comes from the fact we are ALL military history enthusiasts and as such i would have thought........may be wrong that it would be natural to therefore also be more interested in this period of rememberance.

Not in any way shape or form having a pop at any ONE person just a general observation.........and as i say i appreciate that a lot of people do a lot of other things.

tony
 
I was watching a show on the military channel yesterday highlighting some of the actions of the final day of WW1- Nov. 11, 1918. Couple things caught my attention:

1.) If any Frenchmen were killed on 11/11/18, they were officially recorded as KIA on Nov. 10, 1918. No one is really certain why but some theories were tossed around focusing on veteran's retirement benefits, perhaps public scrutiny once the war faded from memory, etc.

2.) More AEF personnel were KIA on 11/11/18 than on JUNE 6, 1944!! That was distressing- the show digressed into some of the strange missions our doughboys were going on in the waning hours of the war.

3.) St. Mary's hospital (I think it was St. Mary's) in England. Focused on treating some of the terrible injuries after the war- suffice it to say, there were scores. I have a tendency to focus on the dead on Veteran's Day but there were scores of horribly maimed service people from all the wars who lost arms, legs, etc or even years of their lives (My President- John McCain), to war. We would be remiss to forget them as well.

Cheers
CC
 
We had a very similar programme called 'The Last day' I think it was.One of the terrible incidents on that day that really stuck in my mind was the American general who ordered his men to attack a German held town in the morning because the town had hot water and his men desperately needed baths.I think they took something like 300 casualties that morning...just so the surviving soldiers could have a bath.All those brave young men,had come through that terrible War,just to have their lives thrown away on the last morning.Criminal truly criminal.How terrible that even on the last day such a callous act that characterized the many battles in WW1 should take place.:(

Rob
 
Incredible wasn't it mate,there was an inquiry after the War and the guy got away with it:eek:.

Rob

Yeah- I was sort of sitting there stunned over that whole entire series of events. I do not recall hearing anything about the "hearings" and especiallythe scathing findings that came about. I would like to think that the sacrifice of those men led to better training of our generals so that future generations wouldn't face the same fate. I believe history has mostly proven that correct. Still, on the one end, history also proved Pershing correct as well. I felt the show was a bit hard on Blackjack but I digress............

I was saddened to watch the one part where the one British private was killed five days before his son turned five. I was moved by the fact that he was 40 years old- looking at the picture they displayed, he looked in his early 20's.
 
Yeah- I was sort of sitting there stunned over that whole entire series of events. I do not recall hearing anything about the "hearings" and especiallythe scathing findings that came about. I would like to think that the sacrifice of those men led to better training of our generals so that future generations wouldn't face the same fate. I believe history has mostly proven that correct. Still, on the one end, history also proved Pershing correct as well. I felt the show was a bit hard on Blackjack but I digress............

I was saddened to watch the one part where the one British private was killed five days before his son turned five. I was moved by the fact that he was 40 years old- looking at the picture they displayed, he looked in his early 20's.

It was all very sad wasn't it.Hard to stomach that a mere twenty years later we had to do it all over again.Yes it was a bit hard on Blackjack if I recall.

Rob
 
Jeff

No problem at all i appreciate that we all have jobs etc..........however when i wrote my statment there were 55 people on TF and still only six different people had commented.

So not a direct gripe...........and yes i also appreciate that there are people doing a mass of other things to remember, that do not include posting on TF.

However i was and still am (24hrs later) surprised that there are only say 10 - 15 people that have commented on here. And not forgetting the post i put on on rememberance Sunday where only two of us commented! yet a post about sport , jokes or somthing similar (all important and part of society and social interaction accepted) gets a far higher hit rate.

I think my surprise comes from the fact we are ALL military history enthusiasts and as such i would have thought........may be wrong that it would be natural to therefore also be more interested in this period of rememberance.

Not in any way shape or form having a pop at any ONE person just a general observation.........and as i say i appreciate that a lot of people do a lot of other things.

tony

Tony,

You are quite right in what you say, it is surprising, and my post was a little curt to say the least - sorry :eek: (it's been a stressful few weeks).

Jeff
 
THE FINAL INSPECTION

The soldier stood and faced God,
Which must always come to pass.
He hoped his shoes were shining,
Just as brightly as his brass.

'Step forward now, you soldier,
How shall I deal with you ?
Have you always turned the other cheek ?
To My Church have you been true?'

The soldier squared his shoulders and said,
'No, Lord, I guess I ain't.
Because those of us who carry guns,
Can't always be a saint.

I've had to work most Sundays,
And at times my talk was tough.
And sometimes I've been violent,
Because the world is awfully rough.

But, I never took a penny,
That wasn't mine to keep...
Though I worked a lot of overtime,
When the bills got just too steep.

And I never passed a cry for help,
Though at times I shook with fear.
And sometimes, God, forgive me,
I've wept unmanly tears.

I know I don't deserve a place,
Among the people here.
They never wanted me around,
Except to calm their fears.

If you've a place for me here, Lord,
It needn't be so grand.
I never expected or had too much,
But if you don't, I'll understand.

There was a silence all around the throne,
Where the saints had often trod.
As the soldier waited quietly,
For the judgment of his God.

'Step forward now, you soldier,
You've borne your burdens well.
Walk peacefully on Heaven's streets,
You've done your time in Hell.'

Author Unknown~
 
Thank you, Wayne, for the rhyme below.
Well, I am a German and it somehow first felt awkward to me joining the appreciaton here for Rememberance-/Veteran's Day here.
But then again, it was the combined efforts of the Allied Forces, the bravery and willingnes to go for the ultimate sacrifice of each soldier, that put an end to the evil regime that ruled Germany at that time, with that enabling us to live our lifes in the free world we know today.
So, I can honestly say, that I am very thankful to any and all troops of the Allied Forces in WWI and WWII as I am to the troops that presently fight to assure freedom.
Konrad
 
Thank you, Wayne, for the rhyme below.
Well, I am a German and it somehow first felt awkward to me joining the appreciaton here for Rememberance-/Veteran's Day here.
But then again, it was the combined efforts of the Allied Forces, the bravery and willingnes to go for the ultimate sacrifice of each soldier, that put an end to the evil regime that ruled Germany at that time, with that enabling us to live our lifes in the free world we know today.
So, I can honestly say, that I am very thankful to any and all troops of the Allied Forces in WWI and WWII as I am to the troops that presently fight to assure freedom.
Konrad

Superb post.

We sometimes forget that the Allies also liberated the many good and decent people in Germany from the hideous Nazi regime.

Rob
 

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