What has happened to the Americans? (1 Viewer)

[Phantom Warrior]

Terry, Read the original post. It states no Americans since October of last year or approx seven months. I have seen all of the dispatches since probably 2004/5, as that is how long I have been buying KC.

As for the Bavarian's lets not get too personal now....................would hate to be censored twice in one evening!!!!.

You take care and thanks for your post!!

Ludwig!!

That's because most of the Americans are done in the 2nd half of the year - June/July for D-Day and Oct/Nov for the Bulge. I don't think it has anything to do with sales, it is just the traditional timing of when there are additions to those series.

Terry

 

[Rob]

That's because most of the Americans are done in the 2nd half of the year - June/July for D-Day and Oct/Nov for the Bulge. I don't think it has anything to do with sales, it is just the traditional timing of when there are additions to those series.

Terry

This is very true Terry, it's all about timing . Each range has a period where there are no or few realeases and also these are planned many months in advance . Sometimes new releases are difficult to fit into the release schedule. I've been collecting K&C for many years and there as always been a steady flow of Americans, I'm sure all in good time more will be released , be they ACW, WW2 Alamo etc.

Rob

 

[Mitch]

Rob/Terry...

I think you are both spot on. To say americans stuff does not sell defies belief somewhat. when you look at the amount of releases K&C have done recently and, in the past covering the US army et al. Did someone not comment a while ago about the fact that no english sets sell well and, thats why we were not getting any??? Now, we see the cyclical shift with plenty of good brit sets and, other ranges being brought to the fore. I firmly believe it has nothing whatsoever to do with bad sales but, innovation and keeping things fresh, new and, exciting for the majority of collectors worldwide.

I for one, am enjoying the current releases especially the brit stuff and a couple of other ranges as next year they may be placed on the backburner for something else.
Mitch

This is very true Terry, it's all about timing . Each range has a period where there are no or few realeases and also these are planned many months in advance . Sometimes new releases are difficult to fit into the release schedule. I've been collecting K&C for many years and there as always been a steady flow of Americans, I'm sure all in good time more will be released , be they ACW, WW2 Alamo etc.

Rob

 

[Bayern]

That's because most of the Americans are done in the 2nd half of the year - June/July for D-Day and Oct/Nov for the Bulge. I don't think it has anything to do with sales, it is just the traditional timing of when there are additions to those series.

Terry

That was a very good point on the time of year. Perhaps June will be a WWII release. We can only wait and see. The dispatch is less then two weeks away!

There may even be a small American surprise heading our way before then..............

Ludwig

 

[Von Lettow Vorbeck]

That was a very good point on the time of year. Perhaps June will be a WWII release. We can only wait and see. The dispatch is less then two weeks away!

There may even be a small American surprise heading our way before then..............

Ludwig

What kind of a surprise?

Gerhard

 

[Bayern]

What kind of a surprise?

Gerhard

Hello Gerhard! Sorry for the delay but oh tosh!! I had to really work today. The surprise will habve to wait but in the meantime I have some more input for this thread.

A distributor of many lines called me today and stated that they think it is due to the higher cost and the WWII Americans are made by too many other competitors. Another interesting point.

Food for thought,

Ludwig!!

 

[Mitch]

May I ask who are these other competitors who make US WWII? At the moment it seems that TG is doing some US para's (just started releasing them) not many in the Figarti inventory one sherman in the CS inventory and, no troops that I am aware of and, FL possibly thinking of doing the western front in the future.

How also are US more expensive to make than say germans if one looks at the prices of shermans and other allied AFV's they have been less expensive than their german counter parts which, andy has stated on here that is due to complexity of paint style on german AFV's and, size. Troop prices are equal in retail value and, in the last seven years I have not seen a price differentiation between german and allied sets for figures. I would ask your distributor for a more detailed explanation of these points as it does not seem to hold water this explanation nor, does the way that you are trying to tell the forum that these sets are in demise.

There is always lots of speculation but, I would venture that its just whjat has been said by Rob and Terry and to a lesser extent myself that its cyclical and other ranges are at the top of the production list. we shall of course see when the next few dispatches go up over the well noted D-Day months what allied releases are forthcoming.

This post in a few weeks could proverbially bite one in the backside if lots of allied are released over the next few dispatches. Just be patient while there are none available and, collect the other ranges that interest you.
Best Wishes
Mitch

Hello Gerhard! Sorry for the delay but oh tosh!! I had to really work today. The surprise will habve to wait but in the meantime I have some more input for this thread.

A distributor of many lines called me today and stated that they think it is due to the higher cost and the WWII Americans are made by too many other competitors. Another interesting point.

Food for thought,

Ludwig!!

 

[The Military Workshop]

As a dealer of six brands (not incl FL and Figarti) I totally agree with Mitch in previous post. Not done a head count but I am guessing K&C has more WWII American items than the other brands combined.

 

[Bayern]

May I ask who are these other competitors who make US WWII? At the moment it seems that TG is doing some US para's (just started releasing them) not many in the Figarti inventory one sherman in the CS inventory and, no troops that I am aware of and, FL possibly thinking of doing the western front in the future.

How also are US more expensive to make than say germans if one looks at the prices of shermans and other allied AFV's they have been less expensive than their german counter parts which, andy has stated on here that is due to complexity of paint style on german AFV's and, size. Troop prices are equal in retail value and, in the last seven years I have not seen a price differentiation between german and allied sets for figures. I would ask your distributor for a more detailed explanation of these points as it does not seem to hold water this explanation nor, does the way that you are trying to tell the forum that these sets are in demise.

There is always lots of speculation but, I would venture that its just whjat has been said by Rob and Terry and to a lesser extent myself that its cyclical and other ranges are at the top of the production list. we shall of course see when the next few dispatches go up over the well noted D-Day months what allied releases are forthcoming.

This post in a few weeks could proverbially bite one in the backside if lots of allied are released over the next few dispatches. Just be patient while there are none available and, collect the other ranges that interest you.
Best Wishes
Mitch

Lets just do what you stated before...agree to disagree. The point of the thread was that there were not any Americans made in seven months for any series and release. That again is any series in WWII, Civil War, American Revolution, Real West. We can add the Alamo and Rough Riders to that list.
Another point is now that KC soldiers have peaked over the 40= dollar amount many believe that this is adding to what is made and not made. With that the conjecture is are Americans taking a hit. I wonder if there was ever even a month or two that another large country player was passed up so long. I shall do some research on say..the British or Germans. Let us see if the British or Germans have been passed by for months on end. I shall start this in another thread as time permits.
This thread has been taken out of the direction of its intention. It is not about how many soldiers were made before last November. It is about the here and now. Perhaps those that want to take another direction could start another thread. Here are some possibles, like " KC has made many Americans since inception" or "KC will get back to the Americans at another date" or "Do not stir the pot new guy" or "I am getting what I want now so quiet!".

Also, no references to my backside even proverbially....I am a bit sensitive on that subject.....as I quit smoking ten months and 8 days ago.....and yes it has gotten larger!!!!!!

However, I will take the hit if a dozen Americans show up next week.
Perhaps I will have a few in less time then that.........?I will be the first to post pictures if I can beat Carlos!!!!

In all seriousness let us end any move towards sarcasm and negativity. We obviously do not share the same views. That is why the world is such a great place. We are not all the same. That is also why the forum is a great place. You meet some great people. Take Gerhard and myself. We met, conversed, became fast friends and he is staying with my family and I until the TEXAS TOY SOLDIER SHOW where we will both be buying KC Soldiers. The only problem is that git is eating all of my Bratwurst!!! Gotta go!
You take care.
Ludwig

 

[Mitch]

Bayern...

There was no sarcasm etc from me the bite on the backside was meant that its always the case that a thread can say such and such and then the manufacturer can release sets which disprove the original opinion. forthright and to the point is not sarcasm or anything else. I merely offer my opinion which, is all we can do on an internet forum. Its happened a lot on here and, to myself. I just put forth an alternative to what the distributor had said to you as I did not think it sounded right. they are offering you information which you are using which is arguably not right especially the part about conflict with other manufacturers as nobody is focused on american WWII releases

Threads have a habit of changing but, from your original point you yourself moved it into this new area and new reasons why allegedly K&C are not making american WWII figures. I also don't think anyone is saying don't stir the pot or anything similar why on earth would this question be stirring the pot?? you ask when US sets will be released and say they have not been released for a while and a number of posters offer some answers for you. They may not be what you as a collector wants to hear but, they are more than likely correct and, more plausable than what you have recieved from the distributor and the grape vine about them not being popular or, more expensive.

Sets are more expensive and we all would like to see lower prices but, when you think a piece of metal is made into a figure painted boxed wrapped and shipped around the world to your door for £40/$40 dollars its still reasonable IMO

there is hardly much to agree to disagree about here but, it is glaringly obvious that K&C have done lots of US and that the range for european WWII remains popular with the number and diversity of recent releases. It may not be in the months you mention but, look at how long brits have been awaiting MG releses much much longer.
Best Wishes
Mitch

 

[Bayern]

Bayern...

There was no sarcasm etc from me the bite on the backside was meant that its always the case that a thread can say such and such and then the manufacturer can release sets which disprove the original opinion. forthright and to the point is not sarcasm or anything else. I merely offer my opinion which, is all we can do on an internet forum. Its happened a lot on here and, to myself. I just put forth an alternative to what the distributor had said to you as I did not think it sounded right. they are offering you information which you are using which is arguably not right especially the part about conflict with other manufacturers as nobody is focused on american WWII releases

Threads have a habit of changing but, from your original point you yourself moved it into this new area and new reasons why allegedly K&C are not making american WWII figures. I also don't think anyone is saying don't stir the pot or anything similar why on earth would this question be stirring the pot?? you ask when US sets will be released and say they have not been released for a while and a number of posters offer some answers for you. They may not be what you as a collector wants to hear but, they are more than likely correct and, more plausable than what you have recieved from the distributor and the grape vine about them not being popular or, more expensive.

Sets are more expensive and we all would like to see lower prices but, when you think a piece of metal is made into a figure painted boxed wrapped and shipped around the world to your door for £40/$40 dollars its still reasonable IMO

there is hardly much to agree to disagree about here but, it is glaringly obvious that K&C have done lots of US and that the range for european WWII remains popular with the number and diversity of recent releases. It may not be in the months you mention but, look at how long brits have been awaiting MG releses much much longer.
Best Wishes
Mitch

As I am entertaining a fellow treefrogger in my home currently I do not have a lot of time to go through your diatribe. But for whatever it is worth: it seems you are trying to install yourself back in good graces on the KC forum after your huge lashing out on Andy N. recently which got you censored. I was actually agreeing with many points you made and cheering on your rigorous honesty. It was actually that post that motivated me to join this Forum. Unfortunately it got pulled before I could finish registering. Cannons blaring and full speed ahead you were a sight to behold!!!! But to no avail...

Heck one can not even mention excerpts of your calmer paragraphs without getting censored as I did when I was just trying to kid you a bit. A sense of humor must be developed.

So let us go our own ways now. I disagree with you...who really cares at the end of the day!!

Besides you only have yourself to blame.............you were the reason I joined!!{sm4} {sm3}{sm2}^&grin

Ludwig!!!!

Oh, Gerhard says hi!!




Bye

Ludwig

 

[Mitch]

Easily exposed and, thanks for proving the points I have raised with a number of people about some new posters. Have a great day
Mitch

 

[Bayern]

Easily exposed and, thanks for proving the points I have raised with a number of people about some new posters. Have a great day
Mitch

It was my pleasure.

Kind Regards,

Ludwig!!!!