Steven Chong
First Sergeant
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... I don't see how you came up with part of your conclusions ...
I was looking solely at the length of the Brown Bess as an indicator of scale and did not relate it back to the height of a figure. As you stated in your first post: "... In the last K&C thread on this, Ken made a good theoretical point that if you use the size of a item that does not change, as in a vehicle or weapon, then you can Divine the scale from that ... For Napoleonic, he used the example of a Brown Bess, which should be 58.25 inches (1479.55mm) in real life."
I divided Ken's given length of the Brown Bess, 1479.55 mm, by 30, 31 and 32 to get the scale length, then compared that scale length to your measurements of the Brown Bess from various manufacturers to arrive at my conclusions.
For example, if a figure is supposed to be 1/30 scale, then the Brown Bess should be 1479.55/30 or 49.31 mm. Matt states 1st Legion is 1/30 scale, so the scale length of the Brown Bess of these figures should be 49.31 mm. You measured the length as 48.75 mm. 49.31 mm - 48.75 mm = 0.56 mm or 0.56 mm too short. I did these calculations using the other lengths you measured to arrive at my conclusions of the Brown Bess being "too short" or "too long."
Now, the reality is that measurements that are 0.56 mm too short or 0.23 mm too long are so miniscule that most collectors will not preceive the difference.
... I would note that I initially said nothing about who was closest to anything. I just noted my measurements and the relative indicated scales. I did not do this to criticize anyone; simply to note that some commonly stated notions do not test out.
I did not interpret your statements as being critical, and I hope my comments are also not being interpreted as a criticism of any manufacturer.
... I also question whether 54mm equates to 1/32. That depends on whether you are using the tip of the head or the eyes and once you decide that, what average person height you are assuming. 54mm to the eyes is 58 to 59 mm to the head which would give you an average person height of 1740-1770mm, which as I noted is 5ft, 9 inches in change. That is a reasonable average height for European military males in the 19th century.
The problem is that some manufacturers use sole of feet to top of head while others are using sole of feet to eyes, with all saying their figures are the same scale. For example, I think Ken of East of India once posted that his figures are 1/32, that 5'8" was the average height used, and that the correct measurement is to the top of the head. As stated above, I just compared the scale length of the Brown Bess to your measurements and did not look at the heights of figures, which I agree is wildly inconsistent.
... I am not sure what in my post prompted that remark? I said nothing about my reasons, subjective or otherwise and specifically noted that each persons own eye would be the best guide. As Joe would say, just the facts [sir][ma’am], just the facts.
I apologize if you thought I commenting on your post. My closing statement was more a comment on the many posts where forum members attack each other for their subjective views. Like you said, each person's own eye is the best guide.