Why Are Older Collector's The Biggest Portion Of Our Hobby (3 Viewers)

Hey 7th,

Got a email from the Moderator that you complained about my quip about your post. It was a joke brother! I have no clue what your response was and I have been working all day, but by no means am I accusing you of any domestic violence dude. Relax man, just poking a little fun. Read my post and you will see. I make the biggest fun at MYSELF! Sheeeshhh. Dayum going on all Chain of Command on me. Oh well, it isn't the first time that someone has complained about me on this forum so I am getting used to it. Lots of none humorous folks around here.

Anywho, like you don't play golf. Live on one, but just don't dig being out there in the bust *** Texas heat yucking it up. No thanks. Love classic cars, don't own one, but will own a 1965 Buick Rivera one day...fixed up. I have no desire to "re-build" or "restore" way too much knuckle busting. Don't go out. My day starts at 5AM everyday including Sunday so I hit the sack early. Classical conditioning from the military I guess, but I would rather be a home body. Plus, I have already been hit by a drunk driver once when I was a teen and have licked the idea of being out late. Nothing good happens after midnight.

Well like I said I have no clue what you response was but frankly I don't care because I know I meant no harm. If you got a beef with me next time send me a PM or email first and if I am wrong-I'll admit it. Check out my posts you'll see I have apologized once or twice for what I have said. Everything is there for your viewing pleasure on my profile page. I'm a big boy and own what I write, but what I won't do is contact the moderators about a member and file a double secret probation complaint about them. But, hey that's your right to do so. It's just not how I roll.

Good Weekend to you 7th,

John from Texas

PS: Pat, this is a fair and square response...yes?
 
Using domestic violence as a gag line is just not funny nor anything to joke about either.
 
jazzeum said:
Using domestic violence as a gag line is just not funny nor anything to joke about either.
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Alright already. I have already got the principals note on this Jazz from the moderators. Posted a response to Mr. 7th extending a olive branch to him. I don't need any more brow beating. Can we soldier on?

Good Lord.

John from Texas
 
jazzeum said:
Using domestic violence as a gag line is just not funny nor anything to joke about either.
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Or was it you Brad who ratted me out/ complained about me to the mods? Tell, tell the truth. If so, I owe a sincere apology to 7th "calling him out" by assuming (making an arse out of u and me) it was him who sent a complaint to the mods. If not, my response stands.

Honesty is the best policy and I won't be mad at ya.

John from Texas
 
hotel3alpha said:
Hey 7th,

Got a email from the Moderator that you complained about my quip about your post. It was a joke brother! I have no clue what your response was and I have been working all day, but by no means am I accusing you of any domestic violence dude. Relax man, just poking a little fun. Read my post and you will see. I make the biggest fun at MYSELF! Sheeeshhh. Dayum going on all Chain of Command on me. Oh well, it isn't the first time that someone has complained about me on this forum so I am getting used to it. Lots of none humorous folks around here.

Anywho, like you don't play golf. Live on one, but just don't dig being out there in the bust *** Texas heat yucking it up. No thanks. Love classic cars, don't own one, but will own a 1965 Buick Rivera one day...fixed up. I have no desire to "re-build" or "restore" way too much knuckle busting. Don't go out. My day starts at 5AM everyday including Sunday so I hit the sack early. Classical conditioning from the military I guess, but I would rather be a home body. Plus, I have already been hit by a drunk driver once when I was a teen and have licked the idea of being out late. Nothing good happens after midnight.

Well like I said I have no clue what you response was but frankly I don't care because I know I meant no harm. If you got a beef with me next time send me a PM or email first and if I am wrong-I'll admit it. Check out my posts you'll see I have apologized once or twice for what I have said. Everything is there for your viewing pleasure on my profile page. I'm a big boy and own what I write, but what I won't do is contact the moderators about a member and file a double secret probation complaint about them. But, hey that's your right to do so. It's just not how I roll.

Good Weekend to you 7th,

John from Texas

PS: Pat, this is a fair and square response...yes?
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Get use to it mate sometimes its like walking on egg shells around here i appreciate your humor or attempt at it but it does get lost in translation sometimes.................^&grin
Don't worry about Brad he use to be a sheriff around these parts years ago but hung up his badge but is finding it hard to let go......................................................^&grin^&grin^&grin
 
I am 71 years old and retired which gives me plenty of time to focus on this hobby. What ignited my interest in toy and model soldiers could stem from the following:

  1. I was exposed to military history since my father served in Eisenhower's General Staff during WWII (military intelligence - N.Africa & Europe); and one of my my uncles (Army) and my step-father (Marines) served in the Pacific Theater during WWII.
  2. My wife's brother, father, grandfather, and fore-bearers also served in the military (from the Am. Revolution to Vietnam), which has sparked her joint interest.
  3. I volunteered and served in the military during the Vietnam conflict.
  4. I have always loved history, especially military history.
  5. I had the opportunity in my career to have traveled the world and to see and experience other cultures.
  6. I was fortunate to have also lived abroad (in Asia, South America, Caribbean, and Europe), and see the impact of history.
  7. I have been exposed to owning Toy Soldiers since childhood, and started collecting in earnest while living in England in the 70's.
  8. On my return to the US in 1981, I got interested and started painting model soldiers.
  9. To reenact, in miniature, a specific military event I got an interest in creating dioramas, which has sparked a resurgence in broadening the depth and scope of my collection.
  10. The Treefrog Treasure Forum has been icing on the cake for me, since it has enhanced my judgement in what to collect and to create.
  11. PS. Having Expendable Cash may be the only major drawback for us retirees and for young collectors.

Thanks
 
Wish I could take the credit John. Wayne, gave up that role, both actually and figuratively, a long time ago and the folks in charge do a terrific job.

It doesn't take much to recognize though that kind of remark just isn't appropriate, even in jest, and could, hypothetically, expose the Forum and it's owners to adverse consequences or at least adverse public relations.

Brad
 
John in Texas, just so you know, I did not complain to anyone. You asked a direct question and I gave a direct answer of no. I had assumed it was in jest and was going to let it stop there. As far as if I had a complaint or concern, I would have sent an email or private message to address it first rather than escalating to a moderator or even responding on a public forum. I think Brad said it best as we all need to be cognizant of the responses we post and the impact it may have on other members, the forum and the forum owners.

On a side note, we do have a lot in common including being from Texas. I currently live in California but spent over half my life in Dallas. Half of my kids and grand kids live in Texas. I love living in Northern California these past 3 years but I miss Texas a lot. May actually move back after retirement. I also start my work day early at 5 and end it late at 6 or 7. I try not to work weekends or vacations unless necessary. I also appreciate classic cars but do not have the space or cash for them. Would really like to own a Shelby Cobra or a classic Mustang already refurbished some day. Looks more like if I do own one it will be in 1/32 scale. I have also been in a number of car accidents in my time, totaled 4 cars and walked away from all of them but one.

As far as posting and the forum, I generally post responses on dioramas and American Civil War topics only. If asked questions, I will try to respond with the information in a reasonable amount of time. I have never had a reason to complain about any posts nor has anyone complained about my posts yet to my knowledge. Embrace an Angry Wind is a recent thread that I started about the story of Franklin as an example of how I use this forum. You can also look at all of my other posts as well. There are not that many of them. I collect ACW toy soldiers and build diorama's as a hobby for enjoyment and hopefully the enjoyment of others with similar interests. I use this forum as a method to "shrink" the toy soldier collecting/diorama world to connect with others with those similar interests.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions. I need to get back to the second chapter of Embrace an Angry Wind now.

Good weekend to you also John from Texas.

Thx

Chris aka 7th
 
jazzeum said:
It doesn't take much to recognize though that kind of remark just isn't appropriate, even in jest, and could, hypothetically, expose the Forum and it's owners to adverse consequences or at least adverse public relations.

Brad
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Brad,

Well, if "it doesn't take much to recognize" then I am a simpleton, huh? Pretty elitist statement my friend. I have already be castigated enough Brad, or do you need pound of flesh too? As I said, can we soldier on or will your next post to me (on this subject) be the legal asmeshugas that is follow on little ole John from Texas. Perhaps we should call CNN? What more do you want from me Brad? An apology? OK:

I'm sorry if I offended anyone on my comment that was meant to be funny. I shall not and will not refer to white tank top t-shirts in any other way other than mens under garments. If I do, I expect to be banned from this forum for life.

Does that suffice Brad or once again do you need more from me on a Sunday?

John from Texas
 
John,

Since you asked a question in your post from yesterday, I felt it was common courtesy to give a response.

It's not my place to ask for an apology so I really have no other comments on the matter, having given my opinion.

Brad
 
Gentle Friends,

It is time for a little "time out" regarding the nature of this conversation. The original topic was "Why are older collector's the biggest portion of our hobby." The thread had a great beginning with people sharing their thoughts, opinions, and experiences in a peaceful manner, but, the thread has become a bit side-tracked. Lets return to the original question and continue to enjoy some meaningful hobby related fellowship. Otherwise, I fear the conversation may come to an abrupt end.

Warmest personal regards,

Pat
 
hotel3alpha said:
Or was it you Brad who ratted me out/ complained about me to the mods? Tell, tell the truth. If so, I owe a sincere apology to 7th "calling him out" by assuming (making an arse out of u and me) it was him who sent a complaint to the mods. If not, my response stands.

Honesty is the best policy and I won't be mad at ya.

John from Texas
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When I was a little kid I used the word word "assume" in response to something my Dad said. He gave me the standard response of never assume it makes...... So I told him sorry and changed my answer to include the word "presume". He looked at me trying not to laugh and I said I guess that makes a "pre" out of you and me..........
 
Al Fisher said:
Simole . . . they have the time and money!

Bosun Al
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And maybe add in "the inclination" to the end of your sentance Al.:D

I know that I had a few (mostly broken or very playworn) toy soldiers when I was a small lad. However, having been born during WW2 - when the hostilities ended, Britain was just about broke - and just like many others, so were we. Food and clothing was still rationed - and for most of the ordinary folk - waiting for their Dad's to come home - there was little spare cash about to feed the desire for more troops for our miniature armies, ( or in my case, a very small platoon of injured troops).

As time passed - things slowly got better - but by then - toy soldiers had been replaced in the "wants" list by school/sports things - then a bicycle- then motorbikes - girls - cars - houses - work - families - holidays - etcetera ( there's a term for this - it's called "growing up":D). Toy soldiers were now a distant memory, as money was required for all of the things that had replaced them.

Fast forward several years - mortgage gone, kids gone - and for some - work a thing of the past, quite suddenly - and out of the blue - we are older, and money was suddenly NOT required for the million and one things that are needed by a young dependant family. Now THAT'S when some of us find out that the old familiar longing for some of the toys of our youngster days never really went away - but had just been dormant for all this time.

Some older guys go back to motor-cycles, some go back to train sets - but folks like us - go back to the Toy Soldiers they always wanted - but couldn't afford way back then.

So............to add to Bosun Al's statement - We "oldies" now have the time, the money and the inclination - to collect our Toy Soldiers once again. And so we do. :salute:::salute::jb
 
An other thing to consider is that the majority of the "grey" community have served in their nation's military and thus have an interest in the subject, unlike todays youth who are encouraged to ignore history, consider the military as barbaric and are only interested in texting and video games. (Could that be the reason we are born with opposible thumbs?) Trooper
 
johnnybach said:
And maybe add in "the inclination" to the end of your sentance Al.:D

I know that I had a few (mostly broken or very playworn) toy soldiers when I was a small lad. However, having been born during WW2 - when the hostilities ended, Britain was just about broke - and just like many others, so were we. Food and clothing was still rationed - and for most of the ordinary folk - waiting for their Dad's to come home - there was little spare cash about to feed the desire for more troops for our miniature armies, ( or in my case, a very small platoon of injured troops).

As time passed - things slowly got better - but by then - toy soldiers had been replaced in the "wants" list by school/sports things - then a bicycle- then motorbikes - girls - cars - houses - work - families - holidays - etcetera ( there's a term for this - it's called "growing up":D). Toy soldiers were now a distant memory, as money was required for all of the things that had replaced them.

Fast forward several years - mortgage gone, kids gone - and for some - work a thing of the past, quite suddenly - and out of the blue - we are older, and money was suddenly NOT required for the million and one things that are needed by a young dependant family. Now THAT'S when some of us find out that the old familiar longing for some of the toys of our youngster days never really went away - but had just been dormant for all this time.

Some older guys go back to motor-cycles, some go back to train sets - but folks like us - go back to the Toy Soldiers they always wanted - but couldn't afford way back then.

So............to add to Bosun Al's statement - We "oldies" now have the time, the money and the inclination - to collect our Toy Soldiers once again. And so we do. :salute:::salute::jb
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Hey JB,

Man, that was touching..."going back to the toys soldiers they always wanted - but couldn't afford way back then". Brother, I did not grow up during you time, but feel what your saying. I had a hodgepodge of troops in my platoon: Darth Vader, Sgt. Rock, some other cheapo plastic ones and my favorite soldiers where made out of mud. Why? Cause you could blow them up and then put them back together. Rifles were tooth picks and you could carve out uniforms, helmets, capes and faces. I remember those mud soldiers the best and they were always the bad guys because my plastics would always win.

My Platoon was lined up on my window sill standing at attention. I always did my best to add another soldier here or there, but sometimes I would have to "retire" a guy if he got broke or lost. But, the muds were always waiting for me to make and I kept a box full of them. Yeah, I really, really feel you on this one. Thanks for posting your story!

John from Texas
 
trooper said:
An other thing to consider is that the majority of the "grey" community have served in their nation's military and thus have an interest in the subject, unlike todays youth who are encouraged to ignore history, consider the military as barbaric and are only interested in texting and video games. (Could that be the reason we are born with opposible thumbs?) Trooper
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Trooper,

I think the correct term is "silver" in lieu of "grey"...LOL. Man, I swear overnight the sides of my head look like someone sprayed silver metallic spray paint on me. My grey's (or silvers) are getting out of control!!! Pulled one out the other day that was like 3 inches long and it HURT yo when I pulled it. Im in my fab forties!!! Yikes!!!

Anyway, can stand dummy kids, so all I can do is make sure mine "remember" the family business of service to country. On Veterans Day here in the States they wear some of my medals to school and NO one makes a comment to them especially in this town of San Antonio, TX. Lots of military pride in Texas. My kids all know which Uncle, cousin, Grand Pa served in what branch and which conflict in my house and why. I try to make history fun for them and they like it especially with the aide of toy soldiers!

John from Texas
 
hotel3alpha said:
Trooper,

I think the correct term is "silver" in lieu of "grey"...LOL. Man, I swear overnight the sides of my head look like someone sprayed silver metallic spray paint on me. My grey's (or silvers) are getting out of control!!! Pulled one out the other day that was like 3 inches long and it HURT yo when I pulled it. Im in my fab forties!!! Yikes!!!

Anyway, can stand dummy kids, so all I can do is make sure mine "remember" the family business of service to country. On Veterans Day here in the States they wear some of my medals to school and NO one makes a comment to them especially in this town of San Antonio, TX. Lots of military pride in Texas. My kids all know which Uncle, cousin, Grand Pa served in what branch and which conflict in my house and why. I try to make history fun for them and they like it especially with the aide of toy soldiers!

John from Texas
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John, you may be able to afford silver, here on a pension it's grey!! When you get to my age, (and you will in some 30 odd years) you will understand. But good for you with the kids, they all need to understand. Don't forget to remind them that there were Brits by your side at the Alamo. Trooper
 
trooper said:
John, you may be able to afford silver, here on a pension it's grey!! When you get to my age, (and you will in some 30 odd years) you will understand. But good for you with the kids, they all need to understand. Don't forget to remind them that there were Brits by your side at the Alamo. Trooper
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....and Scots (they like to separate themselves...right?:), Tejanos, Slaves and "gulp"...the Irish. LOL!

John from Texas
 
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