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It has been almost 6 month's since the passing of Craig Pearse. The Wilson Edward website has been frozen since then. Today I sent an email to his brother Jason which came back as undeliverable. I have also been in contact with John O'Brien (OBEE) but no one seems to know if the company will ever exist again nor what happened to the items they had in stock both painted figures and castings.

I am wondering if anyone else has been able to make contact with W E or Craig's family and if so are there any updates?

I truly miss Craig and his wonderful creations.

Randy
 
A couple of months ago I was contacted by Greg Blake, a mutual friend of Craig's and mine, who asked me if I knew of any likely buyers as apparently there was thoughts of selling up. I replied that I did but would have to have some idea of price first. Since then I have heard nothing which is a great pity. As far as I can make out everything is as Craig left it. Trooper
 
A couple of months ago I was contacted by Greg Blake, a mutual friend of Craig's and mine, who asked me if I knew of any likely buyers as apparently there was thoughts of selling up. I replied that I did but would have to have some idea of price first. Since then I have heard nothing which is a great pity. As far as I can make out everything is as Craig left it. Trooper

Thanks Trooper

Has anyone talked to Alan Caton who I believe did many of the sculpts of the figures?

Randy
 
Thanks Trooper

Has anyone talked to Alan Caton who I believe did many of the sculpts of the figures?

Randy

Dear All,

If you hear on any new development and a revival of the series, please let me know.

Regards,
Luiz aka Artillery-Crazy
 
Dear All,

If you hear on any new development and a revival of the series, please let me know.

Regards,
Luiz aka Artillery-Crazy

Hi Luiz

At the moment it does not sound too promising, but I will let you know if anything is announced either way.

I have to say that it is very disappointing that one can no longer contact the family by email. I was hoping they would use the W E website to keep collectors informed about what is happening to the business. This would be the best way to inform collectors.

Randy
 
You just did!:smile2:

Martin

Article on Alan Caton from WE website:

Master Sculptor Alan Caton: An article by Martin Ainscough
It is safe to say that if Alan Caton had not gone into the toy soldier manufacturing business some 48 years ago, then the modern toy soldier collecting scene as we know it to today would be a poorer place, definitely very different, if not nonexistent!

Alan’s client list during his time in the hobby reads like a who’s who of the toy soldier making world. It would probably be easier to list the manufacturers that he has not worked for during the last 48 years rather than listing those that have enlisted Alan’s help as a master sculptor, artist and/or advisor.

Alan first started out at Tradition, which at that time was known as Norman Newton Limited when he left the Royal Air Force. He started as a painter and during the following years went on to the workshop where he learnt the art of mould making, casting and animation. While looking after the military antique shop at 44 Dover Street he assisted in the production of the magazine ‘Tradition’. After 17 years Alan left Tradition and went into partnership with Derek Cross to form All the Queens Men producing a range of 80mm figures of the British Army. Seven years later he branched out with his own ‘Squadron’ range of 54 mm figures of the British Army combined with an 80mm range of figures depicting worldwide subject matter. He eventually sold these to Tradition when the range got too large to handle without major expansion plans.

It was at this time that he turned his attention to freelance master making, making master figures for numerous companies that have included most of the major manufacturers of toy soldiers and model figures, not just in the United Kingdom, but worldwide. Not to mention the special commissions for sets from such organisations as the RAOC and the Dutch Army Museum, which when completed have been destined for a royal home. Such sets have over the years been presented to Queen Elizabeth II and the Prince of Wales among others.

So what process is involved when creating a master sculpt for a client? The first stage is I suppose rather obvious when a new figure is commissioned. Discuss with the client exactly what is wanted, for example, infantry private C.1900. Do they want the jam pot cuff or pointed? Do they want the Lee Metford rifle or the Lee Enfield? What order of dress, marching order, drill order, review order etc. Once that is established, Alan selects a dolly figure according to what figures they have had before. Some companies prefer the true 54mm, such as Toy Army Workshop, Yeomanry Miniatures, Asset or Lancer. Others want a slightly larger figure, like ATS, Little Legion, Tradition and Wilson Edward. He has dollies in each size, plus other scales as well, which enables him to produce constant figures and allows customers to collect and mix figures from different companies.

The dolly is then cut into pieces, separating the head, arms, and legs and cutting the torso in two. The torso, head and legs are then soldered back into the desired position, running, standing, sitting or whatever. The figure is then dressed by using fuse wire as an edge and then filling with solder, shaping, filing and polishing step by step. So, on the 1900 private for example, the boots are done first, then the gaiters overhanging the boots, then the trousers overhanging the gaiters, then the tunic overhanging the trousers and then finally the equipment. The last thing to be done is the arms, after they are attached, and after all the final polishing is done the figure is sawn apart, drilled and pinned ready for the mould.

Most people cannot understand why Alan doesn’t use Milliput or Duro. The answer is that when he started in this game nothing like that existed, and he therefore carried on using the same methods as Charles Stadden, who Alan considers was the best sculptor in the business. Another advantage is that as soon as he finishes a figure it is ready for the mould wheras a Milliput master usually has to have an RTV mould made which can take up to another week.

A good example of this was when Alan was with Derek Cross at AQM, the SAS went into the Iranian Embassy, and within 48 hours they had a figure made, moulded and cast. You can't do that with Milliput!

Alan is not a collector, and does not have any figures at all. His reasons for this are that spending most of his working day in and around toy soldiers and figures he sees enough of them during the course of a normal working day! Having made thousands of them over the years he wouldn’t in any case have anywhere near the necessary storage space or display area to house them adequately. He prefers instead to collect books on related subject areas, for example, the Yeomanry, British Cavalry and the American Civil War. With a library that currently consists of over 2,000 military titles, this also provides him with a ready made research facility at his finger tips!

So what is next for Alan, and what new and exciting projects are currently in the planning process or taking shape on the drawing board? As he was quick to point out this very much depended on his clients and of course the commissions he subsequently receives. Some companies like Asset, Alexander’s Toy Soldiers and Wilson Edward of Australia give him a subject and a general idea of what they want, i.e. Australian Light Horse Trooper at ANZAC, and leave the composition and finer detail up to him. Others are much more specific, for example, they want an Irish Guardsman at slow march, with eyes right, with sloped rifle and bayonet fixed.

He will also, I am sure, continue to collaborate with the likes of Tradition of London, Little Legion and Alexander’s Toy Soldiers etc on new and exciting sets and figures.

I have no doubt therefore that as long as there are dedicated and talented individuals such as Alan involved in the production of toy soldiers, in all their many guises, then I am sure that the hobby will survive. With the likes of Alan and other like minded people being involved in the production of figures, I feel sure that toy soldier collecting will ultimately survive the challenges that it currently faces. It will continue to flourish and be around for the enjoyment of generations to come, even if it does have to adapt and branch out in a different direction to take account of new collecting trends in the future.

Martin Ainscough
Article written for Toy Soldier Collector Magazine
 

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Hi Randy,

Thanks for posting this fine article about Alan Caton. Obviously, Alan is a most gifted artist and he deserves to be more frequently recognized.

Warmest personal regards,

Pat :)
 
Hi Randy,

Thanks for posting this fine article about Alan Caton. Obviously, Alan is a most gifted artist and he deserves to be more frequently recognized.

Warmest personal regards,

Pat :)

Pat,

I make your words mine.......

Alan and Obee......one producing the casts/molds ( Alan-Trooper ) and the other ( John - Obee ) assembling and painting make me a very fortunate person to be acquainted to such a group of artists......

Regards,

Artillery_Crazy
 
Agreed - a fine and informed article indeed about one of the finest sculptors and producer of TS figures for a veritable huge
"Whos who" of manufacturers - for which both myself, and the rest of the painting brigade will be eternally grateful.

What I particularly like about the vast majority of Alan's work - is the fact that most of the companies that he does work for - will sell me their figures either painted or as castings - which I can then use for MY hobby - which is painting them. Names like ATS, Asset, Tradition and Yeoman - come to mind - and indeed, many of their products have gone through my hands - to grace my cabinet. I can usually tell one of Alan's pieces by now - without being told who made it. The dimensions and detail is unmistakable.

A real shame about the Wilson-Edwards brand - which Alan of course, produced TS figures for too - as I had been looking at those lately, with a view to buying some - until the untimely events of Craig's passing - though I hope that it will be just a matter of time before production begins again for that brand. I never knew Craig personally - and was yet to become a customer - but always read his informed comments on this forum with care - as he knew what he was talking about with regard to painting.

Just one small point though - I would prefer that members themselves advise me what their real names are, if they want to. I value the fact that Trooper is one of my Forum friends - though he has told me his name is Alan. So that's what I will continue to call him - until perhaps, he gets his well deseved knighthood, of course! Then I'll ask him what he prefers to be called Sir Alan - or Sir Trooper!:D

I remain - yours - plain old Johnnybach
 
Hi Luiz

At the moment it does not sound too promising, but I will let you know if anything is announced either way.

I have to say that it is very disappointing that one can no longer contact the family by email. I was hoping they would use the W E website to keep collectors informed about what is happening to the business. This would be the best way to inform collectors.

Randy


I have no knowledge of the situation other than reading this thread. However it does appear WE was a one man band with Craig doing all the painting. It seems apparent to me that the family is probably not in a position to continue the business. I doubt they would feel much need to correspond with collectors who were probably only known to Craig.

Just my thoughts.
 
I have no knowledge of the situation other than reading this thread. However it does appear WE was a one man band with Craig doing all the painting. It seems apparent to me that the family is probably not in a position to continue the business. I doubt they would feel much need to correspond with collectors who were probably only known to Craig.

Just my thoughts.

Jason Pearse also did some of the painting and some of the emails I got from WE were from him. Really nice brothers and a tragic loss all around.

 
I agree with John (Beating Retreat) when the founder of "Lancer", David Bracey, died suddenly some years ago, his widow received more phone calls from collectors worried about their orders than she did phone calls expressing their sorrow for David's death.

I cannot help but think that we should back off for the time being and let the family grieve in it's unique way and stop worrying about what is going to happen to WE's products. If they are going to re-appear they will in their own good time.

Regards to all,
Brian.

Perhaps he and the rest of the family are still mourning their loss
 
Dear Treefroggers:

I was truly devastated by Craig's death and I immediately wrote to the family as soon as I learned of his passing to offer my heartfelt condolences. Along with one other member of this forum I wrote a tribute to Craig as part of an online memorial established by the family. I let 6 months go by before trying to contact Jason Pearse, so in no way have I meant to be disrespectful to Craig or his family. As you can see by the picture (the last 2 figures Craig custom painted for me) and text at the bottom of my posts which I added soon after Craig's death, I have tried to keep his memory alive on this forum. If you look back at forum posts, outside of Craig's announcements and updates the majority of WE posts have been mine. Craig treated me as a friend as well as a collector and I miss getting his enthusiastic emails and checking out the daily posts on his website.

Randy
 
Dear Treefroggers:

I was truly devastated by Craig's death and I immediately wrote to the family as soon as I learned of his passing to offer my heartfelt condolences. Along with one other member of this forum I wrote a tribute to Craig as part of an online memorial established by the family. I let 6 months go by before trying to contact Jason Pearse, so in no way have I meant to be disrespectful to Craig or his family. As you can see by the picture (the last 2 figures Craig custom painted for me) and text at the bottom of my posts which I added soon after Craig's death, I have tried to keep his memory alive on this forum. If you look back at forum posts, outside of Craig's announcements and updates the majority of WE posts have been mine. Craig treated me as a friend as well as a collector and I miss getting his enthusiastic emails and checking out the daily posts on his website.

Randy

Randy,

I make ALL YOUR words mine......I more than any miss the enthusiasm and long chats over existing and or new sets than anything else.....The friendship was built as well as the common interest in collecting.......

Artillery_Crazy ( Luiz )
 
Hi Randy, Obee and Polarbear.....

This time of the year I always have deep thoughts on our gone friend Craig.....
Pitty he is no longer amongst us to enjoy and enrich our hobby.....

Anyone one knows id WETs will every have a come back via his brother?

Cheers to all....

Luiz ( Artillery Crazy )
 
Hi Randy, Obee and Polarbear.....

This time of the year I always have deep thoughts on our gone friend Craig.....
Pitty he is no longer amongst us to enjoy and enrich our hobby.....

Anyone one knows id WETs will every have a come back via his brother?

Cheers to all....

Luiz ( Artillery Crazy )

Hi Luiz


Yes I miss Craig & WETS very much too.
The last I heard the family had sold the business but no one has ever come forward to say they now have the molds and are selling figures. Perhaps a private collector bought them to use for their own collection.

Best of Christmas Wishes To You.

Randy (Polarbear)
 

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