Wittman New Tiger Comparison Photos (1 Viewer)

[PanzerAce1944]

Here are a few shots looking at the size difference between the new Collectors Showcase Wittman Tiger and one of King&Country's current Tiger releases, the WS151 Kursk Tiger. The CS Tiger is BIGGER. Side by side the size difference stands out like a sore thumb !! Once you start separating the 2 a little further apart the difference becomes less noticeable. Cheers !

 

[Mitch]

Thanks for posting the pics there are as you say some size differences!!!!
Mitch

 

[PanzerAce1944]

Thanks for posting the pics there are as you say some size differences!!!!
Mitch

Hope this helps those who had questions about their size differences. To make it real interesting I may post some pics of the K&C WS070 (SL) Tiger next to the new CS version. Talk about a real size difference there ! {eek3}

 

[lancer]

The size difference between the two models is shocking. Supposedly the two are both 1/30 scale. What gives? The KC Tigers I have are compatible with the CS Tigers I have and now this new CS Tiger will dwarf those other Tigers. At what point does a correct 1/30 make its appearence? I am purchasing the new CS Wittmann Tiger but I do not foresee being able to display it with the other tanks now that I see the size differential. I will have a variety of 1/30 Tigers, purchased over the years, made by different manufacturers, all advertised as 1/30 scale, yet all different in size. I know this whole scale issue is a hot topic, but the constant change in sizes within the 1/30 scale is beginning to get on my last nerve. Someone pick a size and stay with it. -- Al

 

[cnq]

Holy cow....That's a HUGE difference in size between the two Tigers. The new Whittman Tiger might even bigger than the currently released King Tiger by CS....

 

[The Collectors Showcase]

The size difference between the two models is shocking. Supposedly the two are both 1/30 scale. What gives? The KC Tigers I have are compatible with the CS Tigers I have and now this new CS Tiger will dwarf those other Tigers. At what point does a correct 1/30 make its appearence? I am purchasing the new CS Wittmann Tiger but I do not foresee being able to display it with the other tanks now that I see the size differential. I will have a variety of 1/30 Tigers, purchased over the years, made by different manufacturers, all advertised as 1/30 scale, yet all different in size. I know this whole scale issue is a hot topic, but the constant change in sizes within the 1/30 scale is beginning to get on my last nerve. Someone pick a size and stay with it. -- Al

Every tank since the TCS Panther and Sturmgeschutze are now a correct 1/30th scale as stated before.

Prior to that most all vehicles, and even alot being manufactured now by others, are closer to 1/35th scale or 1/32nd.

Tell you what, check your figures, match them against your older vehicles and assume that your figures are about 5 foot 9 in height. You will quickly discover that those older vehicle sets are vastly under scale.

Now set a figure next to a newer TCS model you will find that the figures and vehicles match up quite well: check it out for yourself!

Cheers

Brian

 

[lancer]

Every tank since the TCS Panther and Sturmgeschutze are now a correct 1/30th scale as stated before.

Prior to that most all vehicles, and even alot being manufactured now by others, are closer to 1/35th scale or 1/32nd.

Tell you what, check your figures, match them against your older vehicles and assume that your figures are about 5 foot 9 in height. You will quickly discover that those older vehicle sets are vastly under scale.

Now set a figure next to a newer TCS model you will find that the figures and vehicles match up quite well: check it out for yourself!

Cheers

Brian

Thanks Brian. I have always been of the opinion that the Tigers that had been available just weren't big enough when compared to the figures around and with them. The Tigers (and Panthers) were huge tanks and even a brief study of photos containing Tigers and men shows that the men are dwarfed by the Tigers. The crews always seem to be "lost" against the size of their vehicles, not the other way around, as most TS figures have made the model Tigers seem undersized. I look forward to having a Tiger that finally looks correct next to her crew. -- Al

 

[PanzerAce1944]

In response to Mitch's request for some comparison pics, I posted the enclosed photo's of 2 different tanks by 2 different brands.Both claiming that they are 1/30 scale in size. Someone is wrong here ! I would not want to say at this time who is right or who is wrong until enough factual information can be presented.

 

[MapleLeaf]

I'm very curious to see who is right in this case
keep info and pics comming guys
we have to find out once for all

 

[ostrein]

The dimensions of the Tiger copied from Wikipedia. Should be easy to figure our the real scale of these models!

Length: 8,45 m
Width: 3,70 m
Hight: 3,00 m

Oliver

 

[O.T.K]

Holy cow....That's a HUGE difference in size between the two Tigers. The new Whittman Tiger might even bigger than the currently released King Tiger by CS....

Nope the TCS King Tiger is bigger than the new Whittman Tiger. ^&grin

 

[cnq]

Nope the TCS King Tiger is bigger than the new Whittman Tiger. ^&grin

hehehehehe....It's good to know {sm4}. I should be receiving mine today.

 

[Go for Broke]

TCS should be applauded imo. Regardless of what is proper scale, TCS tanks now fits with their, Figarti, TGM and KC's foot soldiers. KC tank crewmen are always smaller than their foot soldiers. Figarti tanks have such small hatches in their hulls, nobody could get in or out. These tanks should be made as imposing and fearsome as they were in WWII. Good work TCS!

 

[PanzerAce1944]

TCS should be applauded imo. Regardless of what is proper scale, TCS tanks now fits with their, Figarti, TGM and KC's foot soldiers. KC tank crewmen are always smaller than their foot soldiers. Figarti tanks have such small hatches in their hulls, nobody could get in or out. These tanks should be made as imposing and fearsome as they were in WWII. Good work TCS!

The one who really needs to be applauded is the company advertising that their product is 1/30 scale and truly makes it in 1/30 scale.The comparison pics listed in this
thread are evident that something is wrong !!! :redface2:

 

[fmethorst]

I'm confused. The Tiger tank is an object of known dimensions. A quick division of the actual dimensions should yield the model scale. If the result is not 1/30 then the model is over or under scale. If the length, width and height scales differ then the proportions of the model are incorrect.

It seems that crew and infantry figures are being used as a reference frame to determine if the scale is correct. This is backwards. The object of known dimensions should be used as the reference frame. For instance the top of the Tiger hull is 1800mm. (~71"). This can be used to help assess the scale of figures placed next to it.

The Tiger hull top should be 60mm in 1/30. This Honour Bound sample is 1mm short in height.

In these pictures the Tiger was raised slightly to discount the figure bases somewhat.

Me beside Bovington's Tiger.

 

[Mitch]

Thank you Frank I was trying to find this thread. Now, PA44 could you do the same with your Tiger???? K&C's three early Tiger 1's as I mentioned in another thread are 65mm in height.
Mitch

 

[PanzerAce1944]

I think I have a project for tonight !!!

 

[Mitch]

Should take you about five seconds mate to measure the hull of the CS tiger 1!!!!!
Mitch

I think I have a project for tonight !!!

 

[wwiibuff]

Thanks for that info Frank. This has always been an interesting topic. Tiger tanks were huge vehicles and your photo from Bovington confirms that. From your collection photos, the First Legion figure looks good to me as far as scale goes against the HB Tiger. I guess you already mentioned that the HB Tiger is just a little underscale. The earlier K&C Tigers (like the Winter Tiger pictured below) look underscale to me, probably closer to 1/32 than to 1/30, but the Tunisian Tiger looks larger and maybe 1/30? I have not done the measurements to see. And you are also correct in that you cannot measure a tank's scale from a figure, as the figure might not be to scale in the first place, plus the fact that people are different sizes anyway. I was very surprised to see the K&C Kursk Tiger being so much smaller than the new CS Wittman's Tiger. Hopefully someone will provide the measurements to confirm scale of each? I do applaud Brian for trying to get the true scale correct, but would like to know from measurements to confirm. Just as a point of interest, I lined up some of the Tigers that I do have to compare. From left to right: K&C Tunisian Tiger 1/30 : K&C Winter Tiger 1/30 : FOV Normandy Tiger 1/32 : Academy Early Tiger (Kursk Markings) with Tamiya tank crewman, both 1/35.

 

[maddadicus]

The size difference between the two models is shocking. Supposedly the two are both 1/30 scale. What gives? The KC Tigers I have are compatible with the CS Tigers I have and now this new CS Tiger will dwarf those other Tigers. At what point does a correct 1/30 make its appearence? I am purchasing the new CS Wittmann Tiger but I do not foresee being able to display it with the other tanks now that I see the size differential. I will have a variety of 1/30 Tigers, purchased over the years, made by different manufacturers, all advertised as 1/30 scale, yet all different in size. I know this whole scale issue is a hot topic, but the constant change in sizes within the 1/30 scale is beginning to get on my last nerve. Someone pick a size and stay with it. -- Al

Better test, compare the new CS Tiger to CS Panther and then ask yourself, based on the real measurements which tank ought be larger..My problem with CS is that their vehicles do not even correctly match up size wise with each new release. There are a number of us who have scale conversion programs that continue to do the math and in inches, these models are over sized.. Of course when we are told that this or that release is sold out, that's supposed to make it OK! Michael