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I didn't know Gonnie was a clean shaven blondie! I haven't had time to get back to the studio(basement) for more picture-taking. I need to. There was a recommendation for Britain's stuff. Here is the worst, out of focus, Reconnaissance Intellegence photo you will ever see. This was originally taken by a member of the Ndodlo regiment when he scaled a tree to get a better view of the hospital at Rorke's Drift. (repeat, this is not in MY office at work, I will deny it) Mike
 

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Mike here's Goonie before he shaved and dyed his hair to appear in the Movie Zulu...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:The Lt.

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I love it Lt. !!

I have a lot of pictures and photos of the guys and love to see figures that resemble the real men! It lens authenticity to the collection. Of course I have two photos of Michael Caine in my office in full regalia!
 
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Here is some Little Legion Mounted and dismounted (mix of Buller's guys and some Native Horse about to topple the left side of my display case. Mike
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I like the Native Horse. Is it the Edendale Mission contingent ?

Wasn't it Sgt Simon Kambula, who lead them ?

I would like to know more about them. They seemed to have fought very bravely at Isandwana.
 
Maloyalo,
I think you are right in that most of Little Legion's mounted and dismounted NNH are the Christians from Edendale. They all seem to have much more issued ammo bandoliers than the others like Lonsdale's. Lt. and some other guys can prove me right or wrong. It is great that asked. I might have to do some rrreeessseeeaaarrrccchhh instead of watching TV! Mike
 
Maloyalo,
Yes I believe most of the Mounted Natal Native Contingent that you see in painted figures(unfortunately) is patterned off the Edendale troops. These guys were apparently the only ones issued with Martini-Henry carbines and kept their pants and boots on. Tally Ho! Mike
 

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Maloyalo,
Yes I believe most of the Mounted Natal Native Contingent that you see in painted figures(unfortunately) is patterned off the Edendale troops. These guys were apparently the only ones issued with Martini-Henry carbines and kept their pants and boots on. Tally Ho! Mike
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A whole group of them! That is great that they made so many different poses. One of the very rare times metal figures tempt me! :D

I think I saw in an Osprey book on the Zulus that some Native horse had an unusual style of Stirup. It was a rope loop and the riders road barefoot. But I am not sure if the Edendale contingent was like that.

I forgot they had the Martini-Henry carbines. Yes, being well armed & to the teeth helps! The Native Horse troopers seemed to have performed well in general as cavalry at Isandwana. They advanced but fought dismounted under cover & held up the Left Horn of the Impi. It helped give the main force time to prepare its defenses. When the battle was lost, they performed as a rearguard holding the retreat route open on for a little while.

But only the Edendale men, who had conserved some ammo, retreated as a formed body. I believe they again stopped briefly to make a stand at the river.
 
A small group of them have been joined by a few members of The Natal Mounted Police.........The Lt.

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The Lt. said:
A small group of them have been joined by a few members of The Natal Mounted Police.........The Lt.
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Very cool pic! The Natal Mtd Police mixed in look great. I' am trying to remember, but I thought that was the unit of the Swiss Corporal Shiesse left wounded at Rorkes Drift. Where is that photo of Isandwana from ? Its hard for me to tell the distance, but it looks like that is a ravine in the foreground. Is that the Donga by chance where Durnford made his initial stand ?

Seriously folks, my plastic-only is under severe duress !:D

I wonder if I could sell an arm. I have two you know...:D
 
Hunter was with the NMP and Schiess was with the NNC, right Lt.? I think you're close on the picture, Mayoyalo
 
1879fanatic said:
Hunter was with the NMP and Schiess was with the NNC, right Lt.? I think you're close on the picture, Mayoyalo
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1879 your right Schiess was a member of the 2nd Battalion 3rd Regiment of the Natal Native Contingent and Hunter along with Lugg and Green were members of the Natal Mounted Police. Here's LL Hunter defending himself in front of the hospital....The Lt.


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Well, this thread chose my next book to read (actually re-read) & I've got the Washing of The Spears back out and started it again. Is there a more recent or better book on the subject ? I look for those with the most depth and details.
 
You cannot beat Desmond Morris for a readable overview of the whole subject. I am sure you know that he was an AMerican secret service operative who was taking a break in SA when he stumbled across the whole story and started his book. It is in some ways considered out of date but it is still a great book. Since its publication there has been a steady torrent of new books and studies. Very few general histories. Adrian Greaves has written one called Crossing the Buffalo. The individual battles are well covered especially Islandwana and Rroke's Drift. Adrian Greaves has written a book called Rorke's Drift. Ron Locke and Peter Quantrrill have written a book called Zulu Triumphant which is from the Zulu perspective. Col Snook the commander of the Royal Regiment of Wales has written two books " How can man die better" about Islandwana and Like Wolves on the Fold about Rorke's Drift. In a Knight has been a bit quite of late but is apparently working on a new book on Rorke's Drift which is not yet released. His photo history called Brave Men's Blood is indispensable and he has a great book on the Death of the Prince Imperial called With his face to the foe. For a radical historian's take on this little Imperial land grab look up Jeff Guy. An impecunious historian he has written books on what happened to the Zulus after this ignoble little campaign. The Destruction ofteh Zulu Kingdom and the View across the River are really good.
Regards
Damian
 
damian said:
You cannot beat Desmond Morris for a readable overview of the whole subject. I am sure you know that he was an AMerican secret service operative who was taking a break in SA when he stumbled across the whole story and started his book. It is in some ways considered out of date but it is still a great book. Since its publication there has been a steady torrent of new books and studies...
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I did not know that ! But it kind of fits the tone of the book with its rare emphasis on the details of the backround politics. Mine only has maps, but I saw an edition once in a library that included a ton of photos.

Thanks for the list! I think I will try to get the photo history and another, but its a hard choice. There are so many interesting elements packed into this conflict. Its not surprising it is such a favorite period for historians and figure collectors.
 
You can also try Who's Who of the Zulu Wars (by Dr. Greaves) Volume I is the British and Volume II is the Colonials. Maybe Volume III will be the Zulus.
Anyway, from a long time Wilbur Smith fan , I love anything from Greaves or Ian Knight, who both write in that Euro White African style.
Col. Mike is a good read and comes from a soldiers' point of view in LWOTF and HCMDB. All strictly my opinion. I also feel that the Osprey series are indispensible. Need more pictures. Must post more pictures . Mike
 
During the Battle (rout) of Hlobane in March the Frontier Light and Border Horse try to escape down Devil's Pass! Mike
 

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Mike, that is superb! Have been watching this thread with some interest for a while now. You guys are making me wish I still had my LL and Trophy Zulu collection. These are the sorts of scenarios I had hoped to be able to create eventually so its the next best thing to see somebody else making it happen. Please keep up the good work.

MD
 
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During the Battle (rout) of Hlobane in March the Frontier Light and Border Horse try to escape down Devil's Pass! Mike
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Great setup! looks good and maybe fun to act out a few tumbles and over the edgers.

Was it Buller or Wood here that were telling men to go back up through the Zulus to retrieve things they abandoned ?
 
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Maloyalo,

Trust me it is not fun to have figures going arse over elbow when trying to display. I broke one guy off his base and removed several Zulu shield from their rightful owners last night while mucking around.
Wood was down below the Hlobane plateau with his Irregulars. It could have been Redvers Bullers lower ranked officers. I had never heard that story before but believe it. These guys were running and riding for their lives down a sheer drop (almost).

MD,
Thanks for the encouragement , I need to set up more battle scenes like Lt.
Mike
 
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