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[Sahara]

Ok I don't collect figures from this time frame and I know there are alot of people who do. My question is simply are the Zulu figures posted on Collectors Showcases homepage new or is this just old news? 24th ART set, 24th Firing set, Mbonambi wounded set and Mbonambi attacking. Sorry I couldn't get the pictures to post. Just go to their website.

 

[Sahara]

Ugh....why can't I post these pics.....dah well someone else might have better luck!

 

[damian]

Ok I don't collect figures from this time frame and I know there are alot of people who do. My question is simply are the Zulu figures posted on Collectors Showcases homepage new or is this just old news? 24th ART set, 24th Firing set, Mbonambi wounded set and Mbonambi attacking. Sorry I couldn't get the pictures to post. Just go to their website.

New
http://www.thecollectorsshowcase.com/zulu.html

 

[The Collectors Showcase]

Ok I don't collect figures from this time frame and I know there are alot of people who do. My question is simply are the Zulu figures posted on Collectors Showcases homepage new or is this just old news? 24th ART set, 24th Firing set, Mbonambi wounded set and Mbonambi attacking. Sorry I couldn't get the pictures to post. Just go to their website.

Its true, we've added a brand new time period to our existing historical franchises: Zulu War.

We thought to begin were things were the worst for Lord Chelmsfords Zulu expedition: Islawanda.

There were two artillery pieces actually at Islawanda, but they were never fired! Just run over by the Zulu advance. That gives you some idea as to the speed of the native assault. Also the 24th Regt. was spread so far apart as to be the most porous defensive perimeter in colonial warfare.

We hope to continue to add sets to what is certainly one of the most dramatic colonial expeditions ever.

These sets are available for pre-order through our dealer network or on our site ( www.thecollectorsshowcase.com ) and will ship late next month.

Happy Collecting!

Best regards,

Brian

 

[APACHEJOL]

These really look good close ups on the website looks like they really did a good job on the faces. What does everyone else think? Do they look historically correct? I may add these as a new line and would like to here other opinions. Thanks

 

[Flammenpanzer]

I have been wanting to collect the Zulu war line for some time. If they have enough different sets made I will get the CS Zulu line.

 

[steveo]

The Zulus look pretty impressive,whats the size 54mm or 60mm,most of my Zulu war collection is Trophy and Britain's so i don't really want to start collecting in 60mm

 

[The Collectors Showcase]

The Zulus look pretty impressive,whats the size 54mm or 60mm,most of my Zulu war collection is Trophy and Britain's so i don't really want to start collecting in 60mm

They are a crisp 54mm. As they need to fit into Britians outstanding collection of Zulu war figures.

Best regards,

Brian

 

[steveo]

Brian,
Many thanks for the quick replyThats why i love this forum,information straight from the horses mouth and the ability to talk to makers on a one to one basis!I have just ordered the 2 Zulu sets,i never seem to have enough ZulusBrian is there any chance of a look at the box artwork?
regards steve

 

[1879fanatic]

Its true, we've added a brand new time period to our existing historical franchises: Zulu War.

We thought to begin were things were the worst for Lord Chelmsfords Zulu expedition: Islawanda.

There were two artillery pieces actually at Islawanda, but they were never fired! Just run over by the Zulu advance. That gives you some idea as to the speed of the native assault. Also the 24th Regt. was spread so far apart as to be the most porous defensive perimeter in colonial warfare.

We hope to continue to add sets to what is certainly one of the most dramatic colonial expeditions ever.

These sets are available for pre-order through our dealer network or on our site ( www.thecollectorsshowcase.com ) and will ship late next month.

Happy Collecting!

Best regards,

Brian

Brian,
Not to be a pecker, but it is ISANDLWANA, first of all. Royal Artillery under Lt. Curling et al. fired off rounds of case and ball for a while until being overrun after companies to their right faded too quickly to the right flank, trying to assist Durnford.
Mike

 

[The Collectors Showcase]

Brian,
Not to be a pecker, but it is ISANDLWANA, first of all. Royal Artillery under Lt. Curling et al. fired off rounds of case and ball for a while until being overrun after companies to their right faded too quickly to the right flank, trying to assist Durnford.
Mike

Not at all, thanks for the intel.

Cheers!

 

[The Breaker]

Brian,

I am glad to see the artillery. The carriage looks good but the cannon itself looks a bit short.

The poses look good keep the Zulu War line coming! You can't ever have enough Zulu War figures.

 

[maddadicus]

Brian,

I am glad to see the artillery. The carriage looks good but the cannon itself looks a bit short.

The poses look good keep the Zulu War line coming! You can't ever have enough Zulu War figures.

These were only 7 pounders. From the contempory photos that I have seen, they did not look all that long..Michael

 

[The Lt.]

It's nice seeing another entering into the Land of the Zulus providing it's combatants. The poses and sculpting are very well done but presenting the defenders of the 7 pdr. as members of the 24th Regiment of Foot and their uniforms is not accurate. The 7 pdrs. were from N/5 Battery of the Royal Artillery and not members of the 24th. As for the 3 members of the 24th the shako plate would have been removed from their Foreign Service Helmet. For those who are are not hung up on 100% accuracy they'd make a nice addtion to your collection and I wouldn't pass on them. I'm sure the next time around Brian well insure he address similar issues......The Lt.

 

[1879fanatic]

These were only 7 pounders. From the contempory photos that I have seen, they did not look all that long..Michael

Michael,
Good call, The Royal Artillery had two 7 pounders left at Isandlwana while Chelmsford and Company gallavanted off to hunt the tail remnants of the Reserve Corps of the Zulu. The cannons were in fact quite small, compared to the carriage, which in most cases was converted to the Kaffrarian larger -wheeled carriage for scrubland use. Have a look see
Mike

 

[1879fanatic]

Men of Harlech,
I just picked this off ebay. What's up with the cords on these guys? If they refused to wear the issued trousers, to the gaol they go! And if I was their, I would have ripped those badges off their pretty white helmets forthwith and sent them to the rear! SNCO,
Mike

 

[The Lt.]

Uniforms of an Officer and Bombardier of The Royal Artillery Plates 3 and 4 that would have been worn at Isandlwana

along with a plate of a gunner.

 

[mikemiller1955]

Bo knows football and Joe knows Zulu!

The polite but definitive answer to accuracy from the old pro.

Attaway Joeseppi.

Michael

 

[The Collectors Showcase]

Uniforms of an Officer and Bombardier of The Royal Artillery Plates 3 and 4 that would have been worn at Isandlwana

along with a plate of a gunner.

Ahh, but where did this unit transfer from and when did it join Chelmsford command? In this question you will find the answer of the trousers worn The lack of staining on the helmets and pith helmet badges remaining is also a hint. A free Mbonambi native wife to whomever answers correctly

regards,

Brian

 

[PolarBear]

Here is a link to the scholarly lowdown on all the artillery units in the AZW


Military History Journal Vol 4 No 4

ARTILLERY IN THE ZULU WAR - 1879

by Major D.D. Hall

http://samilitaryhistory.org/vol044dh.html

The section on Isandlwana:

Isandlwana - 22nd January, 1879
Section N/5 Battery
Two 7 prs
Rocket Battery
Three rocket troughs
N/5 Battery (less one section) accompanied Lord Chelmsford on his abortive reconnaissance in force, and took no part in the battle. The Rocket Battery, with its equipment carried on mules, then accompanied Col Durnford's force when it also moved out of camp; but the battery was unable to keep up with the remainder. When firing was heard to their left, the Rocket Battery and its escort turned in that direction, but they were almost immediately engulfed by the Zulus. There was only time to get off one rocket before the enemy was upon them.
Maj Stuart Smith, the Captain (or second in command) of N/5 Battery, returned from Lord Chelmsford's force before the Zulus attacked, and took command of the artillery left behind. This only amounted to one section of two guns-and fifty men left in camp.
The Zulus advanced very rapidly when they attacked. The guns opened fire, but it was soon necessary to change to case shot, which is not normally used at ranges greater than 300 m. The two guns were quite incapable of stopping the Zulu masses. After a round or two, the order was given to retire. Maj Stuart Smith was wounded, and there were other casualties as well. There was no time for the men to take their seats on the guns and limbers when the guns moved off, and they had to run alongside the guns.
The intention was to take up another position at the camp, but the Zulus were there first. The guns went straight through the camp, losing more men on the way. Eventually, they became stuck in a ravine, and the drivers, who now alone remained, were pulled off their horses and killed. There was no time to spike* the guns.
{*To spike a gun, a spike (like a nail) was hammered into the vent, thus preventing the firing of the gun.}
N/5 Battery had lost Maj Stuart Smith, 61 NCOs and men, two guns, 24 horses, 30 mules and 534 rounds of ammunition. The Rocket Battery lost Maj Russell, six men and all its equipment.