Are people getting crazier? (1 Viewer)

[OzDigger]

A recent 'incident' in my neighbourhood has resulted in the death of a young woman, a man shot and several others injuired, apparently caused by a guy on drugs, but who knows really.

What the heck is wrong with people these days? I hope he gets life, but no doubt he'll get a lighter sentence claiming he's a victim of society.

 

[OzDigger]

Thinking more about this, IMO people aren't getting crazier, more the fact that personal media technology allows a wider audience of crazy behaviour.

In other words, a similar percentage of crazy behaviour as in the past, just more people can see it.

 

[Horus]

Thinking more about this, IMO people aren't getting crazier, more the fact that personal media technology allows a wider audience of crazy behaviour.

In other words, a similar percentage of crazy behaviour as in the past, just more people can see it.

Matt
Maybe along with more people having access to more media options, now ensuring more people have the opportunity to hear / see these things, is that while the percentage of people who do these things may remain the same, the population of the world is higher than it's ever been, meaning it seems to be occurring more often than the past and being more common, making it almost the norm to hear about them.

 

[OzDigger]

Matt
Maybe along with more people having access to more media options, now ensuring more people have the opportunity to hear / see these things, is that while the percentage of people who do these things may remain the same, the population of the world is higher than it's ever been, meaning it seems to be occurring more often than the past and being more common, making it almost the norm to hear about them.

Steve,

I agree, more people combined with more opportunity to see what they're up to.

However 'Substance Abuse' is often a common factor in these cases, makes normal people crazy, and crazy people even crazier.

 

[Barkmann]

Matt
Maybe along with more people having access to more media options, now ensuring more people have the opportunity to hear / see these things, is that while the percentage of people who do these things may remain the same, the population of the world is higher than it's ever been, meaning it seems to be occurring more often than the past and being more common, making it almost the norm to hear about them.

I agree, we are getting too much news and finding out about thing we would have no idea about previously. If you watch TV you would never leave the house.

 

[OzDigger]

I agree, we are getting too much news and finding out about thing we would have no idea about previously. If you watch TV you would never leave the house.

And it's not only MSM that promotes Fear, Doubt and Suspicion.

 

[Horus]

Steve,

I agree, more people combined with more opportunity to see what they're up to.

However 'Substance Abuse' is often a common factor in these cases, makes normal people crazy, and crazy people even crazier.

Yes undoubtedly, substance abuse and the ease it is available and which is a common factor in these occurrances which has turned many cities in the West into no go zones and even more so, very dangerous places after dark where the Police don't patrol for fear of upsetting the local "Community" and though we dare not say it out loud, we all know why, and of course by pandering and appeasing these criminals, they become even more daring in widen their horizons and if anything is done, they claim to be the victim.

 

[OzDigger]

Yes undoubtedly, substance abuse and the ease it is available and which is a common factor in these occurrances which has turned many cities in the West into no go zones and even more so, very dangerous places after dark where the Police don't patrol for fear of upsetting the local "Community" and though we dare not say it out loud, we all know why, and of course by pandering and appeasing these criminals, they become even more daring in widen their horizons and if anything is done, they claim to be the victim.

How true Steve, more and more people are finding it hard to cope with modern life, the police etc seem incapable of controlling their behaviour, they pay to much attention to political correctness.

 

[Barkmann]

How true Steve, more and more people are finding it hard to cope with modern life, the police etc seem incapable of controlling their behaviour, they pay to much attention to political correctness.

Not sure what role PC plays, as this has always happened, be it drugs or booze, the later is as big or bigger social behaviour issue. There needs to be a zero tolerance for importing drugs, i would make it 20 years if found guilty, take it out of judge's hand and make it mandatory. Plus build small scale prisons 50 to 150 prisoners, where people serving long sentences are kept away from people serving short sentences, easier to control and educate for evenual release. Plus those who will never get out. Start off with basics, room, food, access to books and radio, no TV, games, and let people earn the right for more, hard to cause trouble if you are in a cell 23 hours a day.

Also regular work drug tests, should already be them for police, fire, healthcare workers, train and truck drivers, teachers, etc, start off with the political classes, MPs, Congress and Senate leaders, resign if failed drug test. Make taking recreational drugs too much of a risk, not talking addicts here, more social drug takers, rather like weekend drinkers. if you cut down on the people buying then there will be less need for import.

 

[OzDigger]

Not sure what role PC plays, as this has always happened, be it drugs or booze, the later is as big or bigger social behaviour issue. There needs to be a zero tolerance for importing drugs, i would make it 20 years if found guilty, take it out of judge's hand and make it mandatory. Plus build small scale prisons 50 to 150 prisoners, where people serving long sentences are kept away from people serving short sentences, easier to control and educate for evenual release. Plus those who will never get out. Start off with basics, room, food, access to books and radio, no TV, games, and let people earn the right for more, hard to cause trouble if you are in a cell 23 hours a day.

Also regular work drug tests, should already be them for police, fire, healthcare workers, train and truck drivers, teachers, etc, start off with the political classes, MPs, Congress and Senate leaders, resign if failed drug test. Make taking recreational drugs too much of a risk, not talking addicts here, more social drug takers, rather like weekend drinkers. if you cut down on the people buying then there will be less need for import.

The extraordinary consideration for Political Correctness has caused Law Enforcement to become increasingly reluctant to offend individuals and minorities, making it more difficult for enforcement of laws, including those related to drug control and substance abuse. Almost everyone now has a camera that can be used to monitor daily activities, including the actions of Law Enforcement personnel. Combine that with Social Media and increased use of Artifical Intelligence and Fake Images, the result is a PC nightmare for Law Enforcement, especially those in Western Democratic countries.

 

[Desertkiwi]

A recent 'incident' in my neighbourhood has resulted in the death of a young woman, a man shot and several others injuired, apparently caused by a guy on drugs, but who knows really.

What the heck is wrong with people these days? I hope he gets life, but no doubt he'll get a lighter sentence claiming he's a victim of society.

There’s a whole raft of reasons for what you’re now seeing on the streets, some would argue it reflects an overall decline in western society and to a degree I would agree.

Our illicit drug culture has been normalised and to a certain degree glorified. In broad terms western society simply accepts it, otherwise why do western governments fail to combat the issue head on.

Look at how most western governments fail to tackle the gangsterism associated with the drug trade. This in-turn has led to the acceptance of ever increasing gun violence and almost normalised what you have just seen. Society has become numb to it.

I recall a famous English comedian joking about how as a teenager it used to be the norm to hide your weed etc from your parents, now-a-days its more about the parents hiding their drugs from their kids….

 

[BHogan]

That is a crazy story and so senseless.

Brendan

 

[Combat]

Hard to explain a lot of what goes on in this world. Some people are wired differently than others and cause a lot of harm. In my lifetime, I would say the following is different: 1) the criminal acts of every deviant are widely reported making people feel like the world is a more dangerous place when they were previously just not aware; 2) the media unintentionally glorifies the acts of many criminals like mass shooters leading to copy cats; and most importantly 3) social media and the Internet have transformed many people in ways that we don't fully understand. They are isolated, angry, and susceptible to all manner of misinformation. A new world.

 

[Panzer ace]

Human beings are clearly no longer evolving, we are now in a complete state of devolution.

 

[Horus]

Hard to explain a lot of what goes on in this world. Some people are wired differently than others and cause a lot of harm. In my lifetime, I would say the following is different: 1) the criminal acts of every deviant are widely reported making people feel like the world is a more dangerous place when they were previously just not aware; 2) the media unintentionally glorifies the acts of many criminals like mass shooters leading to copy cats; and most importantly 3) social media and the Internet have transformed many people in ways that we don't fully understand. They are isolated, angry, and susceptible to all manner of misinformation. A new world.

Not so sure it's accidental, but in a rather sick and twisted way used to grab attention and increase revenue.

 

[OzDigger]

There’s a whole raft of reasons for what you’re now seeing on the streets, some would argue it reflects an overall decline in western society and to a degree I would agree.

Our illicit drug culture has been normalised and to a certain degree glorified. In broad terms western society simply accepts it, otherwise why do western governments fail to combat the issue head on.

Look at how most western governments fail to tackle the gangsterism associated with the drug trade. This in-turn has led to the acceptance of ever increasing gun violence and almost normalised what you have just seen. Society has become numb to it.

I recall a famous English comedian joking about how as a teenager it used to be the norm to hide your weed etc from your parents, now-a-days its more about the parents hiding their drugs from their kids….

I suspect there are a number of factors involved however I agree the increasing use of drugs certainly makes things worse. I've been rewatching the terrific Narcos TV series that Brett recommended to me several years ago.

The series reminded me of the early days of drug use in Australia, back when Marijuana was considered a more serious drug and only 'bad' people used or dealed in drugs. It's now a very different scene, for example in the last few years of my working life a relatively large percentage (over 30%) of my workmates were into drugs, drugs are now considered an everyday thing to them. Drugs are bad enough, but when combined with the 'usual' such as Tobacco, Alcohol and Gambling, it's no wonder these guys are struggling financially. Not to mention the increasing burden of modern relationship expenses that follow Divorce and Child support etc. And of course it's now considered 'normal' for Women to have several children from different Fathers, maybe I'm old fahioned but all this can't be good for society.

 

[Desertkiwi]

Yes Narcos is a great series and well worth a watch.

No you're not old fashioned, you've just been around long enough to be able to compare what things were like 40/50yrs ago.

Drug dealers are scum and prey upon human misery and all the trappings of addiction and associated crime. Kick the illicit drug industry to touch and you'd reduce over all crime within days.

Part of the problem is its so readily available now. I can't comment about overseas, but here meth is cheaper than weed and now coke is arriving in ever increasing quantities from south America.

In saying that, the development and health benefits of medicinal cannabis are well known and its basically legal now.

The pharmaceutical industry is a whole different ball game and many would argue they are the biggest drug dealers of all.

I agree with Jason, as humans have we really evolved further than prehistoric time? We certainly have become very efficient at killing each other.

As westerners we may be living longer, but our births rates have bombed.

Experts now estimate that within 10yrs the average birth rate for western countries will be as low as .5% for every couple. That's half a baby folks........and people wonder why governments are allowing illegal immigration so freely into their respective countries. However that's a temporary fix and look at the mess its creating.

Instead of encouraging our own populations to reproduce, we're trying to 'import' the solution and gee isn't that going well......

 

[Horus]

Yes Narcos is a great series and well worth a watch.

No you're not old fashioned, you've just been around long enough to be able to compare what things were like 40/50yrs ago.

Drug dealers are scum and prey upon human misery and all the trappings of addiction and associated crime. Kick the illicit drug industry to touch and you'd reduce over all crime within days.

Part of the problem is its so readily available now. I can't comment about overseas, but here meth is cheaper than weed and now coke is arriving in ever increasing quantities from south America.

In saying that, the development and health benefits of medicinal cannabis are well known and its basically legal now.

The pharmaceutical industry is a whole different ball game and many would argue they are the biggest drug dealers of all.

I agree with Jason, as humans have we really evolved further than prehistoric time? We certainly have become very efficient at killing each other.

As westerners we may be living longer, but our births rates have bombed.

Experts now estimate that within 10yrs the average birth rate for western countries will be as low as .5% for every couple. That's half a baby folks........and people wonder why governments are allowing illegal immigration so freely into their respective countries. However that's a temporary fix and look at the mess its creating.

Instead of encouraging our own populations to reproduce, we're trying to 'import' the solution and gee isn't that going well......

Nope you're right importing people who hate us and will not integrate, nor adapt or even learn the language and continue in their own Dark ages mentality isn't going to solve the problem.