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I would say if you are allowed to think it you should be allowed to express it
 
Of course one is allowed to think what one likes however, one does not have to say it at all. Its where restraint and respect come into play and, I would venture some self disciplne to have the maturity to not feel the need to voice such unecessary comments. It would have been as easy for you to say ''people are free to collect what they want but, others are free to say they dislike the range''

IMO there was no need for the comments abouts fetish as that is always seen as somewhat negative and derogatory.

But, it does seem that its allowed for those who believe they are somehow morally superior and right in relation to this range are able to do and say what they like without any consequence.

Shambolic IMO
Mitch
 
Why is it that these discussions always end up on the K/C Forum? Even though other mfg. produce similar lines, their posters never offer the same negative responses or objections. I still contend that there is a forum faction ,dedicated to slamming K/C no matter what, and for whatever biased and petty agenda. Very disappointing that baiting is still an acceptable forum practice...Michael
 
You are entitled to your opinion.
I have a friend "a psychiatrist" who is very interested in serial killers. He has books on them and he collects newspaper cuttings about them etc etc. He goes on Jack the Ripper tours etc. He is happily married with children and otherwise quite normal. I still find it creepy looking through a library all about Jeremy Dahmer and the Yorkshire Ripper. If you go out of your way to be interested in the dark side then you must expect a few sidelong glances from people who are not. Simple as that. You need to be able to take one on the chin IMO.
 
completely different and not very relevant here. A psychologist would be interested in it for a profesional outlook. when I was studying Law & criminology as part of my undergraduate studies I was interested in the serial killers also. It comes with the territory and, has helped in work I have done.

Its no more creepy other than it suits your position than collecting crusaders figures with beheadings etc but, I have not seen you class those collectors as fetish orientated or creepy.

However, in relation to your friend, I bet you don't write him letters or post e-mails to him saying he has a fetish or, if you do, as a friend, it would be tongue in cheek remarks. Yours were clearly, IMO meant in the derogatory and unecessary as many of the comments from the faction who believe they are right are.
Mitch
 
Actually he is a geriatric psychiatrist not a forensic one so he has no professional interest in it. He also collects video nasties. I watched one and the next time I visited him in London said I would rather watch something a bit more mainstream. You guys want to have your cake and eat it. You want to collect a controversial subject matter but you want everyone to simply nod and move on when they see it. If you have a big collection of nazi themed things(Toy soldiers, militaria) you are always going to have some people who feel uneasy or who may get offended. That goes with the territory I am afraid. It is a bit like the Goth or punk who gets on a public bus with tats and needles all over him/her and then gets upset when a little old lady starts to feel a bit nervous. Just deal with it and move on.
 
Why is it that these discussions always end up on the K/C Forum? Even though other mfg. produce similar lines, their posters never offer the same negative responses or objections.

Because aside from almost all the other manufacturers, K&C is the only one to produce LAH :rolleyes2:

But I agree, discussions of the morality or tastefulness of Nazi figures should be in a general thread that involves any producer making LAH. As far as I know, the only mainstream matte manufacturer who will not make LAH is FL.

If the moral arguments could be kept on a general thread, the discussion of the actual LAH figures as figures could be kept on topic under the individual manufacturer.

Terry
 
Because aside from almost all the other manufacturers, K&C is the only one to produce LAH :rolleyes2:

But I agree, discussions of the morality or tastefulness of Nazi figures should be in a general thread that involves any producer making LAH. As far as I know, the only mainstream matte manufacturer who will not make LAH is FL.

If the moral arguments could be kept on a general thread, the discussion of the actual LAH figures as figures could be kept on topic under the individual manufacturer.

Terry
William Britains and Conte and John Jenkins all have great LAH marching bands.
 
I know several psychologist and to be interested in serial killers and the like does not mean they have to be forensic as your gerontologist friend has proven. It is within their remit and topic interest.

You are missing the point. I do not want my cake and eat it at all. What I asked for was the unecessary digs that are aimed at individuals groups and manufacturers which, are unfounded and personal.

This is why I am responding to your thread which, contained an unecessary remark. Critique the sets on the basis of merit or historucal content but, nobody has the right which, has occured again, in this thread to try and impose their morality as higher than those who collect, their intelligence as higher than those who collect or, imply some rather incidiuos link with a fetish.

This is a toy soldier site and, supposedly rules to stop such things its only the side who dislike these sets that want their cake and eat it. I am asking for a bit of respect towards those who collect and I think its rather disgraceful that this is having to be asked for because allegedly intelligent people cannot refrain from seemingly lording it over others who they see as somewhat easy targets in terms of what they collect
Mitch
 
K&C, Conte, Britais, CS and TGM all make the Nazi parade and famous figures and it seems the only debate is about the ones produced by K&C

I don't think Jenkins makes Nazi figures.

Terry
 
Psychiatrist not psychologist. Collect what you like and others can think what they like. Death metal, serial killers the occult lots of people are interested in these non mainstream things. If you spend a lot of money on something read a lot about it, think about it all the time talk about it frequently then I wonder how you define that "a hobby, an interest, an obsession" You will find the DSM III quite flexible on some of these definitions. It is all a bit of a spectrum I suppose. That is why I never liked psychiatry
 
And all have correctly got the tuba on the left hand side, not right.

Are you applying for the post of large object correct side positioning? For juust figures or for both figures and AFVs? 2nd floor down the hall and join the que maked out.

Terry
 
K&C, Conte, Britais, CS and TGM all make the Nazi parade and famous figures and it seems the only debate is about the ones produced by K&C

I don't think Jenkins makes Nazi figures.

Terry
I stand to be corrected but Conte and WB have not made marching LAH figures.
 
Phantom Warrior...

It would be if it were upto the collectors of these sets but, the morality brigade always wish to assume the high ground when sets are released and allow no space to those with an interest. To move this part of the thread to a general discussion are a wopuld not resolve it as is seen by the constant digs at those who collect. If we removed all of them then those who want to discuss the asthetic merits etc would still not be allowed so, these discussions until either locked down to their pleasure or, it fades as most discussions do will continue.

Can I just add that I make a distinction between LAH and the Berlin range. To me its the Berlin range when it covers the generic releases army navy civillians personality and such but, LAH to me, is at that time the Ist Kompanie Leibstandarte the original 117 members
Mitch

Because aside from almost all the other manufacturers, K&C is the only one to produce LAH :rolleyes2:

But I agree, discussions of the morality or tastefulness of Nazi figures should be in a general thread that involves any producer making LAH. As far as I know, the only mainstream matte manufacturer who will not make LAH is FL.

If the moral arguments could be kept on a general thread, the discussion of the actual LAH figures as figures could be kept on topic under the individual manufacturer.

Terry
 
Are you applying for the post of large object correct side positioning? For juust figures or for both figures and AFVs? 2nd floor down the hall and join the que maked out.

Terry

There's a ladder on the side of the Jagdtiger you know :tongue:
 
I suppose its only really CS and K&C who produce LAH as TG produces marching para's which are not really anything to do LAH
Mitch

so it's just K&C, TGM and CS who are making them in matte. I don't know about gloss.

Terry
 
I suppose its only really CS and K&C who produce LAH as TG produces marching para's which are not really anything to do LAH
Mitch
True. Black Hawk also had a line of LAH but I have never seen them and don't know it they ever hit the market. -- Al
 

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