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[Fort-Stamford]

I remember that the seperate parts of the carriage had to be pre assembled for the fireing version of the gun. At that time I hadn't started to make my own artillery pieces, now looking back there are things I would have made differently.

Martin

Martin,

Do you remember whether there was a brown painted holstered rifle for each of the horses in the Observation Set? It appears that each horse has a peg where you can mount a rifle holster or a holstered rifle. The set I got had only one holstered rifle available to be mounted and a separate rifle to be held by one of the mounted troopers. If you know where I can get painted or unpainted holstered rifles (for mounted troopers) that would be most appreciated.

Charles

 

[Martin Tabony]

Martin,

Do you remember whether there was a brown painted holstered rifle for each of the horses in the Observation Set? It appears that each horse has a peg where you can mount a rifle holster or a holstered rifle. The set I got had only one holstered rifle available to be mounted and a separate rifle to be held by one of the mounted troopers. If you know where I can get painted or unpainted holstered rifles (for mounted troopers) that would be most appreciated.

Charles

The original idea was that any mounted figure carrying a rifle or carbine, should have an empty bucket. This didn't always happy in the factory, which was the main reason I was against the idea of packing these items seperatly! Unfortunately I don't have a mould or the masters to fit those horses.

Martin

 

[johnnybach]

Martin,

Do you remember whether there was a brown painted holstered rifle for each of the horses in the Observation Set? It appears that each horse has a peg where you can mount a rifle holster or a holstered rifle. The set I got had only one holstered rifle available to be mounted and a separate rifle to be held by one of the mounted troopers. If you know where I can get painted or unpainted holstered rifles (for mounted troopers) that would be most appreciated.

Charles

Hi Charles - I've been following this thread - and see that you're trying to locate holstered rifle/carbines for your set - without much success.

Try sending a photo of your holstered carbine - and the other of the weapon that you do have, to Giles Brown at Dorset Soldiers ( he's online). He does a variety of such add on bits and pieces as castings. If you do find suitable pieces, you would have to carefully match up the paint, of course, but it's a simple enough small job to add such features to models like these. I have frequently done it for broken or incomplete TS that I have found. If you need an empty rifle scabbard - just carefully cut off the protruding butt - and file it clean, then paint. They won't be the authentic part, of course, which is a shame - but I guess you are in a familiar dilema of leaving the figure with missing parts - or getting pretty close (or with luck - identical), to how they were intended to look in the first place.

Hope this helps - as they look far too nice figures to leave incompleted. johnnybach

 

[Fort-Stamford]

Hi Charles - I've been following this thread - and see that you're trying to locate holstered rifle/carbines for your set - without much success.

Try sending a photo of your holstered carbine - and the other of the weapon that you do have, to Giles Brown at Dorset Soldiers ( he's online). He does a variety of such add on bits and pieces as castings. If you do find suitable pieces, you would have to carefully match up the paint, of course, but it's a simple enough small job to add such features to models like these. I have frequently done it for broken or incomplete TS that I have found. If you need an empty rifle scabbard - just carefully cut off the protruding butt - and file it clean, then paint. They won't be the authentic part, of course, which is a shame - but I guess you are in a familiar dilema of leaving the figure with missing parts - or getting pretty close (or with luck - identical), to how they were intended to look in the first place.

Hope this helps - as they look far too nice figures to leave incompleted. johnnybach

Johnny,

Thank you for the advise. I will send photos to Giles Brown as you suggested, and hopefully he can help. I will post same in my album page for other HM of GB researchers and enthusiasts to see. When I assemble for display, I normally use museum wax which prevents any damage and keeps the pieces in place and prevents a figure from falling over when on display.

Best Regards, Charles

 

[ucla1967]

Mark Hoffman has a magnificent collection of HM of Great Britain figures, including a huge set or compilation of sets depicting the famous "Saving the Guns at Maiwand." They are excellent figures, and I am especially impressed by the details of the guns and limbers (as I recall, you can actually remove the shells from the slots in the caissons). ^&cool

I had the "Saving the Guns at Maiwand" sets about 15 years ago, but traded them with Bill Muessing of Toy Troops in Huntington Beach for a bunch of Trophy of Wales Zulu War and Egypt/Sudan sets. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but now I wish I had kept them and just bought the Trophy sets outright.

 

[ucla1967]

Hi Martin,

I just posted an Album that shows the sets "Saving the Guns at Maiwand" that you just decribed. They surely are beautiful, but just spent my limit on the Mountain Gun Team sets. In addition, there is also a beautiful 4-set group called the "The Charge of the Scot Greys and Gordon Highlanders".

I also had "The Charge of the Scot Greys and Gordon Highlanders" set which came in a neat red box with four pull out drawers. I sold it to Ed Ruby several years ago. I have a photo of it, as displayed at his house, somewhere on an SD card. I'll try and locate it and post it here.

I still have a three box set of "The Loyal Suffolk Hussars" with officer, sergeant, and trumpeter, each with five figures. I have the limited edition figure of "The Duke of York (later H.M. George V), Colonel, The Loyal Suffolk Hussars." It is number 96 of 250. I also have a three box set of a British regiment changing which is in storage, but I can't recall the specific unit. I'll dig them out and photograph them along with the Suffolk Hussars sets.

 

[Louis Badolato]

Just purchased two MIB British R.A. Mountain Gun Team sets (#OFS2G & #OFS20P) covering 1880 Victorian colonial period in AFGANISTAN. These sets are considered Very Rare. Does anyone have an old catalogue from HM of Great Britain to get an indication of number produced? Will be posting photos in my Album section in the near future of these and other known HM of GB military sets.View attachment 94156View attachment 94157

At last weekend's Valley Forge show, Tom Dubel got the exact same HM mountain artillery set (bottom photo) you depict in this post and I got an HM cavalry set for $75.

 

[Fort-Stamford]

At last weekend's Valley Forge show, Tom Dubel got the exact same HM mountain artillery set (bottom photo) you depict in this post and I got an HM cavalry set for $75.

Do you remember what he paid for the RA Mountain Artillery set?

 

[Louis Badolato]

Do you remember what he paid for the RA Mountain Artillery set?

$75. I saw it first, pointed it out to him, and he grabbed it.

 

[ucla1967]

Here are three photos from Ed Ruby's collection of the Charge of the Scots Greys and Gordon Highlanders.

 

[yeoman]

Great pictures. While I admired the range of figures when they were in production I was always dis appointed with the lack of reins on the horses.

Yeoman.

Here are three photos from Ed Ruby's collection of the Charge of the Scots Greys and Gordon Highlanders.

 

[Martin Tabony]

Great pictures. While I admired the range of figures when they were in production I was always dis appointed with the lack of reins on the horses.

Yeoman.

The reins were one of Peter's little experiments! He had them made in photo etched brass, the idea being that the collector would assemble the parts. As can be seen what actualy happened was that the parts got lost. I always thought the photo etched reins were to stiff anyway.

Martin

 

[johnnybach]

Not the end of the World though - if you know where to get hold of spare parts which might suit - and you're handy! You only have to look at ANY removeable - or even moveable parts - on a host of second-hand ranges of TS, to find remarks like "Visor missing" or even "Arm lost" etcetera. It's a perennial problem.

Good fun to restore though..... jb^&grin

 

[yeoman]

I bought two sets of mounted figures from them neither of which had any reins when they arrived. Other collectors had the same problem and I ended up making more than a little money supplying collectors with reins at reasonable prices.

Yeoman.

The reins were one of Peter's little experiments! He had them made in photo etched brass, the idea being that the collector would assemble the parts. As can be seen what actualy happened was that the parts got lost. I always thought the photo etched reins were to stiff anyway.

Martin

 

[ucla1967]

I am not exactly sure what you guys are talking about regarding the reins since the sets I have seem to have them sculpted onto the horses unless they are the items in the second bag with "strings." Here are photos of FD20 The Loyal Suffolk Hussars Set With Officer.

 

[ucla1967]

This is FD2S The Loyal Suffolk Hussars Sergeant Set.

 

[ucla1967]

This is FD2T The Loyal Suffolk Hussars Trumpeter Set.

 

[ucla1967]

A close-up of one of the troopers.

 

[ucla1967]

This is set FD2LTD The Duke of York, Later H.M. George V, Colonel, The Loyal Sufforlk Hussars. It is set number 96 of 250.

 

[johnnybach]

I am not exactly sure what you guys are talking about regarding the reins since the sets I have seem to have them sculpted onto the horses unless they are the items in the second bag with "strings." Here are photos of FD20 The Loyal Suffolk Hussars Set With Officer.

Mike - I think that you are confusing the "head rope" ( sometimes, I note also referred to as a lead-rope), which is used to attach to a picket pin - or picket line - for the actual reins. Reins would be attached to a bit - in the horses mouth and are usually made of leather - the other ends of which would normally be held in the hand - or hands of riders. Note that the white head-rope is commonly used for parade duty - and replaced by something less "flashy" for field duties.

Experts like Martyn will doubtless give you much more detail on the names/ usages of such equipment - but the reins appear to be missing for your pieces. Simple enough to correct though - and would make your figures look even better than they are already - were Brian ( or other suppliers too), to sell you a few sets - and if you aren't confident enough to have a go at them yourself - I'm sure you could find someone local to fit and paint them for you.

Here's a pic of some horses and riders I did recently ( these are by Yeomanary Miniatures, by the way - so the reins would be like these) - where you can see both features on the horses head - though in this case, the reins are not being held by the riders - but resting on the horse's neck. jb