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Thanks for the education regarding horses and their equipment. The last two times I actually rode on a horse, one bucked me off and the other layed down of me. So, I am not all that fond of them, except from afar.

The photos I attached above were of sets in the FD2 series. Does anyone know what FD1 was or how many other FDs there were and what they might have been?
 
I bought two sets of mounted figures from them neither of which had any reins when they arrived. Other collectors had the same problem and I ended up making more than a little money supplying collectors with reins at reasonable prices.

Yeoman.

That doesn't surprise me at all, the truth is that Peter was always happier collecting references or experimenting with manufacturing methods than actualy producing figures. The people in the factory just took the mick!

Martin
 
Hi Mike - I too am not all that keen on riding horses - and haven't been on one for 50 years - after some guys played a stupid trick on me - and the horse and I parted company and I finished up in a bramble thicket. Stupid twits could have killed me.

I guess that I have learned about bits and pieces of horse equipment - by putting figures together in order to paint them. Unless you know what the parts are for - you could stick parts on upside down - or in the wrong place altogether. I used to ask others what the parts were called - so that I could ask where they went on a figure - or what colour they should be.

This is even more the case where you buy something second-hand - often without instructions and with things missing ( as you have). Unless you have a common language - you can't ask questions. Maybe we ought to have a Glossary of terms - or a Dictionary somewhere on the forum, so we all know what we are referring to when we are discussing things like this? It might work well in the Uniform section perhaps? - Just a thought. jb
 
Hi Mike - I too am not all that keen on riding horses - and haven't been on one for 50 years - after some guys played a stupid trick on me - and the horse and I parted company and I finished up in a bramble thicket. Stupid twits could have killed me.

I guess that I have learned about bits and pieces of horse equipment - by putting figures together in order to paint them. Unless you know what the parts are for - you could stick parts on upside down - or in the wrong place altogether. I used to ask others what the parts were called - so that I could ask where they went on a figure - or what colour they should be.

This is even more the case where you buy something second-hand - often without instructions and with things missing ( as you have). Unless you have a common language - you can't ask questions. Maybe we ought to have a Glossary of terms - or a Dictionary somewhere on the forum, so we all know what we are referring to when we are discussing things like this? It might work well in the Uniform section perhaps? - Just a thought. jb

That wouldn't be a bad idea JB. However, I would have to leave it to someone far more knowledgable than I am about these things to do it.
 
That doesn't surprise me at all, the truth is that Peter was always happier collecting references or experimenting with manufacturing methods than actualy producing figures. The people in the factory just took the mick!

Martin

Martin,

Did you sculpt the figures that I posted above in the FD2 sets?
 
That wouldn't be a bad idea JB. However, I would have to leave it to someone far more knowledgable than I am about these things to do it.

I'm pretty sure that with your contacts - they would know of someone who could do this for you in the USA. I'm just an amateur - but this is really a bread and butter job for a professional restorer. It takes but a few minutes to add reins to a figure - in fact most of the time it takes is waiting for paint to dry. Match up the paint for the reins to the leatherwork already on the head of the horse - it doesn't even have to be a perfect match - as reins are sometimes of a different colour in real life too - just looks better if you can approximately match them up. Again - easy to do - as a brown and black mix of paint will probably darken them suficiently.

Also sounds like Brian of Yeomanary Miniatures in the UK could sell you appropriate sets of reins for these models - as it sounds as if he has done it before.

They are just too darned nice to be left incomplete - as they currently are. How far away is KV? He might give you a quote - and shouldn't cost you the Earth!

Would love to see them again - once they've been completed. Good luck - you won't regret doing it, as it is a very satisfying experience to rescue something - especially as good as this. :D johnnybach
 
I'm pretty sure that with your contacts - they would know of someone who could do this for you in the USA. I'm just an amateur - but this is really a bread and butter job for a professional restorer. It takes but a few minutes to add reins to a figure - in fact most of the time it takes is waiting for paint to dry. Match up the paint for the reins to the leatherwork already on the head of the horse - it doesn't even have to be a perfect match - as reins are sometimes of a different colour in real life too - just looks better if you can approximately match them up. Again - easy to do - as a brown and black mix of paint will probably darken them suficiently.

Also sounds like Brian of Yeomanary Miniatures in the UK could sell you appropriate sets of reins for these models - as it sounds as if he has done it before.

They are just too darned nice to be left incomplete - as they currently are. How far away is KV? He might give you a quote - and shouldn't cost you the Earth!

Would love to see them again - once they've been completed. Good luck - you won't regret doing it, as it is a very satisfying experience to rescue something - especially as good as this. :D johnnybach

Actually, this is a matter of priorities. While these sets are very nice, it is just not worth the trouble for me to go through all that. I have intended all along to sell them. I don't have the room to display them or the other HM of GB three-box set that I have.
 
Hi Mike - I too am not all that keen on riding horses - and haven't been on one for 50 years - after some guys played a stupid trick on me - and the horse and I parted company and I finished up in a bramble thicket. Stupid twits could have killed me.

I guess that I have learned about bits and pieces of horse equipment - by putting figures together in order to paint them. Unless you know what the parts are for - you could stick parts on upside down - or in the wrong place altogether. I used to ask others what the parts were called - so that I could ask where they went on a figure - or what colour they should be.

This is even more the case where you buy something second-hand - often without instructions and with things missing ( as you have). Unless you have a common language - you can't ask questions. Maybe we ought to have a Glossary of terms - or a Dictionary somewhere on the forum, so we all know what we are referring to when we are discussing things like this? It might work well in the Uniform section perhaps? - Just a thought. jb

That would be a good idea. Then collectors wouldn't get confused over the difference in a curb, a snaffle and my favourite. The Universal Reversible Port Mouth bit.:)

Martin
 
Just as long as we don't get into the merits of a Doctor Bristol when compared and contrasted with a French Link Nutcracker - we should be okay. ( I looked 'em up on Wiki!).

All your fault anyway Martyn - for not insisting on all of the bits (no pun intended) being safely stuck together in the first place.:D

Seriously though, can't help thinking that there are very different collectors out there. I just love putting things back together again when they aren't intact - whilst others like them to be perfect. Just as well - it's a big hobby - with some very different strands - and there is something for everybody. jb^&grin
 
Re: HM of Great Britain - Equine Glossary

Horsey Bits Glossary Hope this helps:cool:

Artificial Aids: Mechanical means by which the rider conveys his wishes to the horse. Includes spurs and whip.

Bat: Artificial aid by which the rider may emphasize and back up the natural aids of seat and legs. Used to encourage reluctant or lazy horses to move forward. Sometimes used to punish. See also whip and crop.

Bearing Rein: Neck rein - rein pushed against neck in direction of turn.

Bight of the Reins: The part of the reins passing between thumb and fingers and out the top of the hand.

Billets/Billet Straps: Straps by which the girth is attached to the saddle.

Bit: Mouthpiece, made of metal but may be made of rubber or other manmade material and held in place by the bridle, by which the rider conveys instructions to the horse.

Bitting Rig: A combination of bridle, harness pad, and crupper. Used to teach horse to flex at the poll.

Bridle: Item of equipment worn on the horse's head, enabling the rider to communicate his wishes through use of the bit and the reins.

Blinders: Small pieces of leather that are attached to the bridle to disable a horse from seeing behind themselves without getting close to the eyes or limiting other vision

Cantle: Back ridge of an English saddle.

Carriage: A vehicle that is pulled by a horse to transport the driver and possibly other passengers.

Cavesson: Simple noseband fitted to a bridle. Or: Leather or nylon headgear, with attachments for side reins and lunge line, worn by the horse when it is being lunged.

Center fire: A western saddle with cinch hung from center.

Chaps: Seatless overalls made of leather, sometimes fur covered, for protection when riding in brush or for protection from cold.

Cinch: Means by which a Western saddle is secured to the horse, which attaches to the saddle on one side, running under the barrel just behind the legs to the other side. Called a girth in English Riding.

Corona: Saddle pad cut to fit shape of saddle; has a large colorful roll around edge.

Crop: Artificial aid by which the rider may emphasize and back up the natural aids of seat and legs. Used to encourage reluctant or lazy horses to move forward. Sometimes used to punish. See also whip and bat.

Cross reins: Method of holding single reins where reins overlap in hands across horse's neck.

Cross-Ties: A method of tethering a horse using two ropes or ties, one on each side, connected to a solid post or wall.

Curb Bit: Bit fitted with cheeks and a curb chain, which lies in the chin groove. Operates on the leverage principle acting on the lower jaw. In a double bridle, the curb bit is used in conjunction with a bridoon, or snaffle bit.

Curb Chain: Chain used with a curb bit.

Direct Reining: Controlling a horse by pulling directly on the reins with one hand on each rein.

Double Bridle: Traditional English bridle with two bits (snaffle and curb) giving the rider a greater degree of control than a single bit.

Draw Rein: A rein, which attaches to the girth at one end, passes through the rings of the bit and back to the rider's hands. Used to increase control and give a better head position but is difficult to use correctly and is very easy to abuse.

Dropped or Drop Noseband: Noseband which buckles beneath the bit to prevent the horse from opening its mouth to "take hold of" the bit and ignore the rider's rein aids.

Fiadore: A special knot on the hackamore that exerts pressure at the rear of jaws.

Figure-Eight Noseband: (Also called a Grackle noseband.) Noseband with thin leather straps, which cross over at the front and buckle both above and below the bit.

Girth: Means by which an English saddle is secured to the horse, which attaches to the saddle on one side, running under the barrel just behind the legs to the other side. Called a cinch in Western Riding.

Grackle Noseband: (Also called a Figure-Eight noseband.) Noseband with thin leather straps, which cross over at the front and buckle both above and below the bit.

Hackamore: A bitless bridle of various designs used in breaking and training.

Hames: Metal arms fitted into the harness collar and linked to the traces.

Harness: Term for the equipment of a horse that is driven, as opposed to being ridden.

Head stall: The leather bridle straps exclusive of bit and reins.

Hobble: Straps fastened to the front legs of a horse to prevent him from straying from camp.

Horn: Prominent pommel at the front of a western saddle around which the rider loops or twists the lariat when a steer has been roped to secure the animal. See also Saddle Horn.

Honda: A ring of rope, rawhide, or metal on a lasso through which the loop slides.

Irons: The metal pieces attached to the saddle by means of leather straps in which the rider places his feet. (See also Stirrups.)

Jockey: The leather flaps on the side of a saddle.

Lariat: A rope, often of rawhide, with running noose, used for catching cattle.

Lead Strap: A strap or rope attached to the halter for leading.

Lead: Term used to indicate the horse's leading leg in canter i.e. "right lead canter" or "left lead canter."

Lead Rope: A rope, which attaches to the halter, that is used to lead a horse.

Leopard: A rope, which attaches to the halter that is used to lead or tie a horse with.

Longe or Lunge: The act of training a horse by working it in the various paces on a circle using a long longe or lunge rein. This rein is attached to the cavesson. Also novice riders may have their first lessons on the lunge as they learn the basics of position, without having to concern themselves with the control of the horse.

Mecate: A hackamore lead rope.

Neck Reining: The art of turning the horse by using the indirect, or opposite rein against the neck.

Neck Strap: Simple leather strap bucked around the horse's neck to give security to novice riders. Also refers to that part of a martingale, which buckles around the horse's neck.

Pelham: Curb bit with a single mouthpiece to which two reins may be attached. Aims to combine the two bits of a double bridle into a single mouthpiece.

Port: Raised section in the center of the mouthpiece on some curb bits. The amount it is raised affects the severity of the bit (low ported bits being milder).

Pommel: The center front of an English saddle. In some designs the pommel is cut back.

Polo Chain: A chin chain of flat, large links.

Romal: A length of braided rawhide attached to the end of connected reins.

Rosin: Is used on the rider's shoes to increase the grip.

Rowels: The toothed wheels on spurs.

Saddle Horn: Prominent pommel at the front of a Western saddle around which the rider loops or twists the lariat when a steer has been roped to secure the animal. See also Horn.

Side Reins: Reins used in training to help position the horse's head. They attach at one end to the bit and to the girth or to the training surcingle at the other end.

Snaffle (bit): Design of bit that acts on the corners or bars of the horse's mouth. May be jointed or straight, but does not have shanks and only uses one rein.

Split Reins: Reins with unconnected ends.

Spurs: Small metal devices worn on the rider's boot to help enforce the leg aids.

Surcingle: Webbing strap which passes around the horse's barrel. Can be used to attach side reins to when lunging young horses. Show jumpers, jockeys, and eventers use them over the saddle as an added precaution against the girth breaking. Also used over blankets/rugs.

Tack Up: To put on bridle and saddle.

Tack: Refers to the equipment of a riding horse - saddle, bridle, etc. Short for "tackle."

Tapadera: Stirrup cover.

War bridle: An emergency bridle made of rope.
 
$75. I saw it first, pointed it out to him, and he grabbed it.


I can confirm this story, Louis said, hey what is that, I quickly elbowed him and used a forearm shiver shed technique and got around him and in front of the set first.................


TD
 
I can confirm this story, Louis said, hey what is that, I quickly elbowed him and used a forearm shiver shed technique and got around him and in front of the set first.................


TD

He who hesitates is lost . . . and I clearly hesitated a moment too long. From now on when Tom is around I will obtain a firm grasp on anything I am interested in before pointing it out to him . . . ^&grin
 
Here is FD3O The Royal Devon Yeomanry Set With Officer. Now we know what set FD3 is. I wonder what FD1 was?
 

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Here is FD3O The Royal Devon Yeomanry Set With Officer. Now we know what set FD3 is. I wonder what FD1 was?

I can't remember what the numbers were but I remember making the North Devon Hussars, a yeomanry regiment in a dragoon uniform and a volunteer artilery unit "Truro's Tigers". Along with foot guards, line infantry, fusiliers and rifles and all the colonial stuff (Maiwand etc.) I also made a bunch of civilian stuff and the figures for the Mary Rose.
 
I can't remember what the numbers were but I remember making the North Devon Hussars, a yeomanry regiment in a dragoon uniform and a volunteer artilery unit "Truro's Tigers". Along with foot guards, line infantry, fusiliers and rifles and all the colonial stuff (Maiwand etc.) I also made a bunch of civilian stuff and the figures for the Mary Rose.

Thanks Martin. I wonder if anyone on the Forum has been able to locate a catalog list. Those sets sound really interesting.
 

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