Andy! I´m not happy! (1 Viewer)

[Colonel RNZIR]

Years ago I worked for an employer who distributed a raffle ticket every time you got a bad job. At the end of the week they were placed in a barrel and we had a 'lucky draw'. The 'winner' got a bottle of wine. As I was one of the youngest on staff I got more that my fair share of bad jobs so I won reasonably regularly. Then the bosses favourites complained at the unfairness of it. They did not get the bad jobs so they were unable to win the bottle. So everyone got one ticket to make it 'fair'. Needless to say, I continued to get more than my share of bad jobs, although in retrospect the fact that I was an opinionated bore may have contributed to the bad job ratio.

To demand that Andy be 'fair' and make the show figure available to everyone means, both in theory and practice, that there is no longer a show figure. One more little charming tradition can then disappear in the name of pretending that if we have enough rules life can be made fair.

Well said old boy,it appears that people in the northern hemisphere like to complain over nothing.
I board a plane,and fourteen hours and twelve thousand kilometres later I arrive in Hong Kong to meet Andy and get more model soldiers.
Instead of negative response,why don't people email Andy directly,or maybe people like seeing there name in print.

 

[Beaufighter]

If you'd come to the Show Wayne, you would have been able to buy these from Fred of Toy Soldiers France :wink2:

Brad,

You got the wrong "ACE." Panzer ace & PanzerAce1944 are two different people.

Best,
Marc

 

[Beaufighter]

Well said old boy,it appears that people in the northern hemisphere like to complain over nothing.
I board a plane,and fourteen hours and twelve thousand kilometres later I arrive in Hong Kong to meet Andy and get more model soldiers.
Instead of negative response,why don't people email Andy directly,or maybe people like seeing there name in print.

Colonel,

Why group the "Northern hemisphere?" it covers a vast area in which I live sans complaints!

Regards,
Marc

 

[Shyguy151]

Don't pick on the guys in the Northern Hemisphere. We are not that bad besides the next time you come here we might have TSA and Homeland do full body screenings. I here K&C is coming out with. TSA figure and x ray machine. The show Figure is the show figure. If you ask nicely I am sure you can most likely get one from a dealer. By the way we are closing the country next Tuesday. Too many Southern Hemisphere people complaining all the time. Just a joke!

 

[Rob]

Hahahahaha. There's considerable truth in this though usually I'm just heading back to K&C to pick up my stuff. My weakest point is always when I first arrive like last time when I walked in saw the guys then saw the Desert Tiger on the Figarti stand! Clive gets me every time and my budget is blown immediately!

I think we are the worst influence on each other. Our collections so similar!

Yep, that was a record, you broke before Rob did. That was fun watching you crumble in the space of 20 seconds.
Fortunately, as a man with copious quantities of willpower and fortitude, I can stand back and provide an objective overview of the proceedings.

Who'd have thought I would be the epitome of restraint and self control!^&grin

We certainly are a bad influence on each other James, both getting the same ambulance on the same day from the same ebay dealer was funny, he must have wondered what was going on!

Simon as an officer of the law you are responsible for keeping the group in order mate, you should not let us wander off round the show post drinking without adult supervision!{eek3}:wink2:

Rob

 

[The Templar]

This tread was started, with the intention to make a debate about the access posibilities on limited etc. figures! And my God, did i get one ...{eek3}

The items in question - hospitaller and tent. Never mind! I will get them! I´m not going to rest before they are safe in my collection. I´m gonne pay and i´m gonny pay a lot!

What affects me is the fact, that forum users almost, only is allowed to comments on the forum if you k... a..! The bigger Andy a.. k....., the better! If you have other opinions than the majority - get out and stay out!

And for the Colonel from NZ! Maybe us from the Northern Hemisphere live in the Stone Age. But never the less, we are aware that at least one person from the Southern Hemisphere are superior to mankind.

Regarding shows! I totaly agree about the social aspect and my attendance at the London Show, was a great experience - all thought my wife has another opinion! I still love her dispite her opinion - i our family were are allowed to have another opinion!

I rest my case!

 

[Eazy]

This tread was started, with the intention to make a debate about the access posibilities on limited etc. figures! And my God, did i get one ...{eek3}

The items in question - hospitaller and tent. Never mind! I will get them! I´m not going to rest before they are safe in my collection. I´m gonne pay and i´m gonny pay a lot!

What affects me is the fact, that forum users almost, only is allowed to comments on the forum if you k... a..! The bigger Andy a.. k....., the better! If you have other opinions than the majority - get out and stay out!

And for the Colonel from NZ! Maybe us from the Northern Hemisphere live in the Stone Age. But never the less, we are aware that at least one person from the Southern Hemisphere are superior to mankind.

Regarding shows! I totaly agree about the social aspect and my attendance at the London Show, was a great experience - all thought my wife has another opinion! I still love her dispite her opinion - i our family were are allowed to have another opinion!

I rest my case!

The good part of your experience is now you have the thrill of the chase in hunting those items down. I always think that's the best part of collecting. Finding an item that you really really want at a show somewhere or maybe winning on eBay. Just that great feeling when you finally get it.
When you can just order something on the Internet and get it next day it's not quite the same buzz.
Anyway good luck Templar!

 

[AIDMAN]

^&grin

Careful mate, I once went home and left Clive with my credit card!:wink2:

Rob

Not a good move Rob....Definately not a good move...!!!....:nudge>nudge.

Steve

 

[Jack]

What affects me is the fact, that forum users almost, only is allowed to comments on the forum if you k... a..! The bigger Andy a.. k....., the better! If you have other opinions than the majority - get out and stay out!

I never understand comments like these. You have opened a debate that has attracted a variety of opinions. If most people disagree with you they are only accepting the opening of thread as an invitation to do so. If they are rude and insulting report them to the moderators. If you feel you are out of step with the majority, then so be it. One of the reasons debate in the K&C thread is different from elsewhere on the Forum stems from the use of 'Andy' when we mean 'K&C'. You use a colourful description of K&C supporters using sexualised language, personalise it by naming the owner rather than the company, yet maintain a sense of outrage at your own 'treatment'.

 

[The Military Workshop]

This tread was started, with the intention to make a debate about the access posibilities on limited etc. figures! And my God, did i get one ...{eek3}

The items in question - hospitaller and tent. Never mind! I will get them! I´m not going to rest before they are safe in my collection. I´m gonne pay and i´m gonny pay a lot!

What affects me is the fact, that forum users almost, only is allowed to comments on the forum if you k... a..! The bigger Andy a.. k....., the better! If you have other opinions than the majority - get out and stay out!

And for the Colonel from NZ! Maybe us from the Northern Hemisphere live in the Stone Age. But never the less, we are aware that at least one person from the Southern Hemisphere are superior to mankind.

Regarding shows! I totaly agree about the social aspect and my attendance at the London Show, was a great experience - all thought my wife has another opinion! I still love her dispite her opinion - i our family were are allowed to have another opinion!

I rest my case!

I hope you do get the items you are looking for.

Just a minor point but K&C is not the only brand that has some type of special figures. John Jenkins has
made some figures that are only available from JJDUK and there have been a number of Britains items
only available as specials from certain dealers.

For the benefit of Shyguy I did ask K&C, as a dealer and Club Member, if I could get a special figure and was turned
down. No idea what happened with other dealers but that is what happened in my case.

I think Jack summed it up well when he said :

To demand that Andy be 'fair' and make the show figure available to everyone means, both in theory and practice, that there is no longer a show figure. One more little charming tradition can then disappear in the name of pretending that if we have enough rules life can be made fair.

Brett

 

[waynepoo]

What affects me is the fact, that forum users almost, only is allowed to comments on the forum if you k... a..! The bigger Andy a.. k....., the better! If you have other opinions than the majority - get out and stay out!

I never understand comments like these. You have opened a debate that has attracted a variety of opinions. If most people disagree with you they are only accepting the opening of thread as an invitation to do so. If they are rude and insulting report them to the moderators. If you feel you are out of step with the majority, then so be it. One of the reasons debate in the K&C thread is different from elsewhere on the Forum stems from the use of 'Andy' when we mean 'K&C'. You use a colourful description of K&C supporters using sexualised language, personalise it by naming the owner rather than the company, yet maintain a sense of outrage at your own 'treatment'.

Hear hear! well said mate.......:salute::
Wayne.

 

[Rob]

What affects me is the fact, that forum users almost, only is allowed to comments on the forum if you k... a..! The bigger Andy a.. k....., the better! If you have other opinions than the majority - get out and stay out!

I never understand comments like these. You have opened a debate that has attracted a variety of opinions. If most people disagree with you they are only accepting the opening of thread as an invitation to do so. If they are rude and insulting report them to the moderators. If you feel you are out of step with the majority, then so be it. One of the reasons debate in the K&C thread is different from elsewhere on the Forum stems from the use of 'Andy' when we mean 'K&C'. You use a colourful description of K&C supporters using sexualised language, personalise it by naming the owner rather than the company, yet maintain a sense of outrage at your own 'treatment'.

Well said Jack.

Rob

 

[Poppo]

What affects me is the fact, that forum users almost, only is allowed to comments on the forum if you k... a..! The bigger Andy a.. k....., the better! If you have other opinions than the majority - get out and stay out!

I never understand comments like these. You have opened a debate that has attracted a variety of opinions. If most people disagree with you they are only accepting the opening of thread as an invitation to do so. If they are rude and insulting report them to the moderators. If you feel you are out of step with the majority, then so be it. One of the reasons debate in the K&C thread is different from elsewhere on the Forum stems from the use of 'Andy' when we mean 'K&C'. You use a colourful description of K&C supporters using sexualised language, personalise it by naming the owner rather than the company, yet maintain a sense of outrage at your own 'treatment'.

The problem is that the moderators aren' t objective and they censor those who aren' t considered like their friends...

 

[jazzeum]

The problem is that the moderators aren' t objective and they censor those who aren' t considered like their friends...

I completely disagree with that statement.

If you are going to make a statement that the moderators favor people they like, do you have the evidence to support your allegation?

 

[Peter Reuss]

The problem is that the moderators aren' t objective and they censor those who aren' t considered like their friends...

Since the mods often take heat from both sides of issues...I think they do a good job of remaining objective!

 

[Blowtorch]

I completely disagree with that statement.

If you are going to make a statement that the moderators favor people they like, do you have the evidence to support your allegation?

yes, but I really don't take Treefrog that seriously to care

 

[PanzerAce1944]

A few points that I would like to add here and be done. Show figures are simply what the name implies. By K&C
Offering this particular one in discussion through the collectors club gives those wanting it that are not able to
Attend the show an outlet to get it.
As far as the forum moderators they have a tough job to do day in, day out.Without them things would turn into a
Free for all here. If members don't like how things are run here they have the option to not participate.
I also think many here take for granted the fact that Treefrog treasures provides this forum for the hobby
As a very generous courtesy to collectors and IMO do a top rate job. !

 

[Mitch]

back to the topic. Show figures are now not show figures anymore. K&C's early release of the figure to its CC members was a great idea and, I hope that long may it continue. The rest about mods etc and support or not for them etc etc is nonsense in this thread. People are able to read the forum from day one and see for themselves how they operate and make their own judgment.
Mitch

 

[PanzerAce1944]

back to the topic. Show figures are now not show figures anymore. K&C's early release of the figure to its CC members was a great idea and, I hope that long may it continue. The rest about mods etc and support or not for them etc etc is nonsense in this thread. People are able to read the forum from day one and see for themselves how they operate and make their own judgment.
Mitch

I agree, and if members have so much to complain about it would be much easier for them to refrain
From participating. Too easy........{sm2}

 

[Rob]

No complaints here, despite the odd troublemaker its still the best TS Soldier forum out there by a country mile. Lots of good people, dio makers, Dispatches etc etc. Its all good. If you want to see how good this hobby can be go down to the basement and check out Bobs latest ACW dio, sublime scene:smile2:

Rob